CasinoCrasher
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August 23rd, 2018 at 10:00:21 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think bonus hunting online is still worth doing. Many more sites are open to Americans and have good bonuses.

I would also be flexible to do anything, which usually is some kind of promotion abuse. It helps to be connected to a group if you go that direction.



You responded to a question about becoming a professional gambler that you posted on your Wizard of Odds site were you stated ďin my opinion you need a bankroll of at least three times the annual income you are accustomed toĒ. How did you come up with this figure? Also, please show any math associated with it if you would be so kind.
Sandybestdog
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August 23rd, 2018 at 6:16:24 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

That has never once happened in the entire history of casino games. An extra dollar or two per hour, plus rooms and meals can be fairly significant. Especially for someone just entering a field that has an extremely high failure / burnout rate. And especially when the risk (based on the example you came up with) is near zero.

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree on agreeing that you are correct about me being wrong about disagreeing with you.

On last weeks episode of GWAE thereís a question starting around minute 20 about forgoing comps to play unrated and playing slots to make up for it. Richard basically concluded that it will probably be ok to play tables rated but donít think that canít end up costing you at another casino where you have only played machines and havenít even walked by the tables. Just my opinion and what I do. Feel free to disagree.
AxelWolf
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August 23rd, 2018 at 6:31:28 PM permalink
Quote: CasinoCrasher

ďin my opinion you need a bankroll of at least three times the annual income you are accustomed toĒ. .

In general I that's absurd as far as I'm concerned. I suppose there are many factors to consider. I have no doubt he was thinking of a few specific situations when he said that.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TomG
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August 23rd, 2018 at 6:44:41 PM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog

On last weeks episode of GWAE thereís a question starting around minute 20 about forgoing comps to play unrated and playing slots to make up for it. Richard basically concluded that it will probably be ok to play tables rated but donít think that canít end up costing you at another casino where you have only played machines and havenít even walked by the tables. Just my opinion and what I do. Feel free to disagree.



They weren't talking about someone betting $10 like in the example you used
Sandybestdog
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August 23rd, 2018 at 10:56:51 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

They weren't talking about someone betting $10 like in the example you used

Everyone of my back off's have been when I had no more than a $25 bet. Most occurred when I was down. I was once approached by a suit an hour after buying $100 into a limit poker table and told they don't want my action. This was all carded play. I have had 0 back off's while not using a card.
TomG
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August 24th, 2018 at 5:31:05 AM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog

Everyone of my back off's have been when I had no more than a $25 bet. Most occurred when I was down. I was once approached by a suit an hour after buying $100 into a limit poker table and told they don't want my action. This was all carded play. I have had 0 back off's while not using a card.



That last sentence proves why your theory of never using a card is complete bullshit. If you ever do get flagged, just stop using a players card and the problem is solved. But still keep the extra $3,000 - $5,000 you earned before that.

There has to be more to this story. Backed off from live poker? Never counted cards, but labeled as a skilled blackjack player?
Sandybestdog
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August 24th, 2018 at 10:56:34 AM permalink
Quote: TomG

That last sentence proves why your theory of never using a card is complete bullshit. If you ever do get flagged, just stop using a players card and the problem is solved. But still keep the extra $3,000 - $5,000 you earned before that.

There has to be more to this story. Backed off from live poker? Never counted cards, but labeled as a skilled blackjack player?

I have had 0 back off's while not using a players card at the table. It's generally not worth it to play slots without a card. Tables yes, slots no. How are you supposed to know you are flagged until it's too late? My comps were frozen and all offers taken away at one place. I inquired about it. I was told I'm a skilled player at blackjack. I said but I earned those comps playing video poker. They said it doesn't matter, you played blackjack a year ago. At that point I left because it wasn't worth playing the slot promotion without comps. I have the conversation on tape if you don't believe me. I've got a half dozen more stories just like that. It all stems from one place flyering you. So I wouldn't just put out blanket statements to people telling them it's ok to use a card at the table as long as you are betting red chips. Go to a UTH, 3CP, Mississippi Stud table. Put up a $10 bet. Don't put anything on the trips bet and don't put $1 on the progressive. The players will deride you. The pit boss will notice you. The dealer will point out everytime you would have won. You will stick out like a sore thumb and be labeled a skilled player.

Again going back to what Richard said. Go in and wear a hat while playing slots with a card. Leave the casino, go back without a hat and play tables without a card. That's what I do now. I can't afford anymore cards getting shut down.
billryan
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August 24th, 2018 at 12:11:57 PM permalink
My experiences are much closer to Tom Gs than yours.

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