WatchMeWin
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TomG
August 19th, 2018 at 4:43:41 PM permalink
Supplimental
Poker ... slow n steady. High probability hands. Wait for that slow pitch.
Craps .. hit n run. Fool the variance. High probabability outcomes scenarios.

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Stocks, real estate, venture capital.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
Rigondeaux
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August 19th, 2018 at 5:05:58 PM permalink
Poker is good if you have a smaller BR. You could probably move to a hot spot with like 10k and grind out a living as you look for other opportunities or perhaps move up on stakes.

However it is quite hard to move up in stakes in live poker. If you are doing butt sex to 1/2 without lube you make about $20/hr.

I'd say you need at least 25k to really play 2/5 with any comfort. So that's gonna take a while unless you live with mom and dad.

Vegas has worse games than many places but a low cost of living and solid comps for poker players. You can get a diamond card and have a healthy meal for free each day. The promos can be good too. Rn the Venetian has one worth $9.00 an hr if you are not clueless and prob $12 if you are at all sharp.

Cons: poker is not a robot game like most other AP. There is a very good chance you do not have the capacity to be very good.

It is also a game with a lot of nuance that takes a lot of time to learn.

Poker is not easy scalable. 10/20 is harder than 1/2. Blackjack vp and sports are just as easy at any limit though you might struggle to get the action you want. But that's better than getting crushed.
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August 19th, 2018 at 5:31:07 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin


Craps .. hit n run. Fool the variance. High probabability outcomes scenarios.



ya almost had a good post there
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djatc
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August 19th, 2018 at 5:31:42 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

If you are doing butt sex to 1/2 without lube you make about $20/hr.



you might need to stop fasting
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Mosca
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August 19th, 2018 at 5:31:56 PM permalink
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Some might argue that casino gambling is for chumps and small timers.

The real gambling gets done in the stock and real estate markets.

Buy low, sell high.



This.
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Sandybestdog
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August 20th, 2018 at 1:44:00 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

What's crazy is that in my original response I said absolutely nothing about using a players card. And then the disagreement comes after admitting zero experience. Either quoted the wrong person, poor reading/skimming skills, or like most of us is just an innate drive to disagree with everything on the internet

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On using a players card on blackjack: I always do and never have a problem because I keep frequency, duration, and max bets fairly low. For a hypothetical early 20s just starting out knowing nothing, I would say use it. A new player should take a little while to move past a $5 to $50 spread and at that level it's rare to get much heat or pushback. And staying at that level for a while to practice and build a bankroll might mean $100,000 to $200,000 or more in total action. Playing rated during that time should be worth at least an extra month of income with very little risk. And can learn comp hustling that has been talked about a lot here, which opens more doors. And once I start slowing increasing max bet, I can constantly be reevaluating the value of playing rated versus playing anonymously.

I was referring to what you said about Zenking. Isnít he primarily a blackjack counter? Iím just sharing my opinion. I personally donít see any benefit to using a players card at the tables. Even betting $10 you can get labeled a skilled player and get flyered all over town. Youíll walk into a casino 3 hours away, swipe your card, not do anything at all and suddenly be surrounded by suits.

What do you get in return? A dollar or two an hour in comps? Maybe a free room? I just donít think itís worth it. Others may. Youíll get 5x the benefits and almost 0 heat playing slots. Forgoing the benefits on the tables will translate to longevity on slots. I wish I could go back and change things I did in the past. Now, Iíll gladly pay for that free sandwich if I could fly under the radar and keep my players card.
FleaStiff
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August 20th, 2018 at 4:10:35 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Some might argue that casino gambling is for chumps and small timers.
The real gambling gets done in the stock and real estate markets.

Not quite true. Kids playing poker for matchsticks is just as 'real' as any other form of wagering. The match stick accumulator may go on to even become a securities speculator or real estate magnate or casino owner (or player), it makes little difference.
Rigondeaux
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August 20th, 2018 at 4:18:38 PM permalink
Also o.o think most of the moneymaker on wall street is by touting
billryan
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August 20th, 2018 at 4:24:29 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Also o.o think most of the moneymaker on wall street is by touting



The real money is in front running but we all know that's never done.
TomG
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August 21st, 2018 at 7:55:10 PM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog

I was referring to what you said about Zenking. Isnít he primarily a blackjack counter? Iím just sharing my opinion. I personally donít see any benefit to using a players card at the tables. Even betting $10 you can get labeled a skilled player and get flyered all over town. Youíll walk into a casino 3 hours away, swipe your card, not do anything at all and suddenly be surrounded by suits.



That has never once happened in the entire history of casino games. An extra dollar or two per hour, plus rooms and meals can be fairly significant. Especially for someone just entering a field that has an extremely high failure / burnout rate. And especially when the risk (based on the example you came up with) is near zero.

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