focd
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October 13th, 2010 at 1:47:29 AM permalink
I have been playing craps nonstop for like the past 2 months. I am still a fairly new player. I have noticed that there are way too many mistakes dealers make while the game is going on. It's like you can't even take your eyes off the table. So my question is what kind of mistakes do people need to be aware of that dealers make? I will list them in numerical order and try to remember and list them as much as possible. It would be good if others can share.

1) dealer misses a field bet

2) dealer on one side of the table forgets to flip the puck to on while there is a point already establish - making it look like a come out roll (one time I didn't even realize it until I won when the point was made)

3) the dice hits a field bet and moves it somewhere else

4) dealer thought it was a 7 out (becuase it happened so many times that day) and wiped out all the chips up there

5) dealer was daydreaming and forgot to pay my place bets TWICE! I had to remind them!

6) somehow my pass line bet was knocked off a little (JUST A LITTLE!) and the dealer thought it was part of someone's don't come bet - the dealer stacked my pass line bet with the don't come bet and I had to tell him that it's my chip even though there were odds behind the pass line

Right now I can only remember these. I am sure there are more I will add when I remember them.
DJTeddyBear
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October 13th, 2010 at 4:54:53 AM permalink
I've seen all of the above, except #4.

Usually, immediately point out the error, and it will be fixed with no conflict.
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Ayecarumba
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October 13th, 2010 at 5:18:44 PM permalink
Dealer misses a call of "Off" or "No Action", and doesn't put the lammer on your chips. A seven results in them sweeping all your chips up.

Place bets added to the wrong player. This is especially common when someone changes positions, or joins the game mid roll.

Wrong odds on lay bets for DP/DC. it is not that common, and the match can be challenging when odd amounts are presented.
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SanchoPanza
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October 13th, 2010 at 6:01:26 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Place bets added to the wrong player. This is especially common when someone changes positions, or joins the game mid roll.


Especially with 10 bettors on a side and heavy place and come action.
FleaStiff
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October 13th, 2010 at 6:03:16 PM permalink
Its best to learn where your bets should be positioned based on where you are standing... then you can check up on the dealers. Also listen to the calls yourself and note the actions taken and the sequence.

Often a crew member will suddenly notice that different ends of the table have different points, but the players should notice it even sooner.

Let your bets "breathe"... keep them separated physically if possible.
RonC
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October 13th, 2010 at 8:06:31 PM permalink
Some dealers are "not ready for prime time" and need to be watched like a hawk. They aren't trying to short change you, but there is a little too much for them to handle.

Some dealers are more than ready but also need to be watched like a hawk. They are cross-talking, allowing hands all over the table, and generally undaunted by the number of players and unconcerned about you.

Some dealers are great. Every payout is precise; every tip acknowledged. They know your bets and remind you to place them. They book bets clearly. They set chips precisely to identify betters. Then some idiot splashes the money and even they are confused. Were you lulled into not watching the dealer like a hawk?

Know every bet you make and the payoff.

State the issue clearly if there is a problem.

The casino has three dealers, the box, the floor, and surveillance working to "get it right"...you have one person to protect your interests. Don't play (or expect to be shorted accidentally or intentionally) unless you can protect yourself.
focd
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October 13th, 2010 at 8:51:16 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Place bets added to the wrong player. This is especially common when someone changes positions, or joins the game mid roll.


This is a question I have as to who's bet is who's. It's easy when you are standing next to the stickman or the dealer. When you are standing in other places, it's hard to see if it is the correct placing of your chips with your place bets especially when a bunch of players want to press their bets. Some table layouts have little lines that seperate player positions. Some tables don't have that and sometimes even dealers ask who's bet is who's. I'm surprised they don't have lines inside the boxes to make it easier to see. I also thought it was always a maximum of 8 players on one side. I was reading books and I rarely find books with pictures to explain how players can tell who's bet is who's (as to where they are standing).
FleaStiff
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October 14th, 2010 at 2:19:40 AM permalink
Quote: focd

(as to where they are standing).

Its not related to where you are standing, but to which position your chip-rack is. On a crowded table that will of course be the same thing.
Diagram? They changed it recently, but the Pioneer(?) in Laughlin had a website with a training chart that had numbers around the point boxes that corresponded to the chip rack numbers.

When a dealer says "My three" you should whether that is you or not. Number one starts with the position immediately beside the Stickman. If you keep aware of the positioning, you can note if someone does it wrong. Whether you speak up about it is your decision, but you should notice if the dealer mis-positions your chips.
focd
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October 14th, 2010 at 2:22:59 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Diagram? They changed it recently, but the Pioneer(?) in Laughlin had a website with a training chart that had numbers around the point boxes that corresponded to the chip rack numbers.

When a dealer says "My three" you should whether that is you or not. Number one starts with the position immediately beside the Stickman. If you keep aware of the positioning, you can note if someone does it wrong. Whether you speak up about it is your decision, but you should notice if the dealer mis-positions your chips.



When and why did they change it? I thought craps has always been the same.
"you should whether that is you or not"??? is that a typo?
SanchoPanza
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October 14th, 2010 at 4:44:06 AM permalink
Quote: focd

I also thought it was always a maximum of 8 players on one side.


Not on the long tables.

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