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January 13th, 2018 at 8:11:25 PM permalink
First time poster! With a 6 deck table of 3 card poker where Q high qualifies dealer, is there a better chance of the dealer NOT qualifying if there are more players at the table than just one on one versus dealer and why? This is a major argument in our house right now. Help!
Mission146
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:19:36 PM permalink
It could fluctuate as cards are removed from the shoe, but with respect to the first hand of the shoe, the probability of the dealer qualifying doesn’t change regardless of how many players there are.
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sabre
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:20:29 PM permalink
If you don't know the cards at the time you make the decision, then it doesn't matter if the unseen cards are in the stub, in other players hands, on the floor, in the bathroom, or in the bowels of the Balrog.
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:22:14 PM permalink
So is it better odds versus dealer to play with more players or one on one?
Mission146
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:27:57 PM permalink
It makes no difference, unless you’re colluding. Although, I’d be very surprised if there were any composition dependent decisions on the first hand of a six deck shoe.
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:32:32 PM permalink
But after the first hand is it better to be at a table with more players? I am just not getting this concept. My argument is that there are a certain number of Qs available.. if those chances (say 10 to keep it easy) are split by 5 people (20 percent chance to get one) versus two(50 percent chance to get one) isn’t there a better chance the dealer won’t have one with more people at the table??
ChesterDog

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January 13th, 2018 at 8:36:31 PM permalink

...With a 6 deck table of 3 card poker where Q high qualifies dealer...

I thought 3 card poker was always dealt from 1 deck.

Is this a hypothetical 3 card poker game with its being dealt from a shoe of 6 decks?

Or did you mean to type "6 spot" table?
CrystalMath
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Thanks for this post from:
January 13th, 2018 at 8:39:50 PM permalink
There's only one deck of cards in 3 card poker and only one game per deck, so there's no such thing as entering after the first hand.

The probability of the dealer's hand is independent of the number of hands. Every game, you randomly choose 3 cards from a deck of 52 for the dealer hand. The distribution of hands never changes.
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Mission146
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January 13th, 2018 at 8:40:49 PM permalink
There are also cards in the deck that are bad for the dealer, by your same logic, the dealer would be less likely to have those.

The truth is the deck composition is whatever it is. Each participant gets three cards. The dealer could deal to himself first, last, in the middle, one card then two, two cards th n one...none of it matters.

Ultimately, the deck is of a certain composition and the dealer gets three cards. Nobody knows if the cards they are taking, “Helped,” or, “Hurt,” the dealer until after the fact. To wit, if six players all got jacks or lower with no straights or flushes, they have, “Helped,” the dealer tremendously.
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Mission146
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