Hotel Stays and ADT

Okay so with this ADT thing, it's better to do all your action in one day as opposed to giving the same action over two days.

What happens if I arrive on Friday, don't play, go to bed, and play all day Saturday. Is that considered 1 day or 2 days in the casino's eyes?

What happens if I arrive on Friday, play all day, go to bed, and leave in the morning (don't play on Saturday). Is that considered 1 day or 2 days in the casino's eyes?

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Okay so with this ADT thing, it's better to do all your action in one day as opposed to giving the same action over two days.

What happens if I arrive on Friday, don't play, go to bed, and play all day Saturday. Is that considered 1 day or 2 days in the casino's eyes?

What happens if I arrive on Friday, play all day, go to bed, and leave in the morning (don't play on Saturday). Is that considered 1 day or 2 days in the casino's eyes?

Depends on what the casino's 24 hour clock reset time is. For example, at most CET properties, it's 6am to 6am. I would ask at their player's club (or even call before you go) what time that happens (they've always told me when I ask, and it's listed in most terms and conditions if you have access to that online). And I think it does matter to your ADT whether the same play is spread over 1 day or 2.

I don't think your day registers unless your card is swiped or used in some way. So if you just get there, check in, go to bed, and start after their day starts, you haven't kicked the clock on. But if you go to swipe your card, whether to check your points, pick up a promotion, whatever, that's going to count, even if you don't bet a single hand or spin.

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Depends on what the casino's 24 hour clock reset time is. For example, at most CET properties, it's 6am to 6am. I would ask at their player's club (or even call before you go) what time that happens (they've always told me when I ask, and it's listed in most terms and conditions if you have access to that online). And I think it does matter to your ADT whether the same play is spread over 1 day or 2.

I don't think your day registers unless your card is swiped or used in some way. So if you just get there, check in, go to bed, and start after their day starts, you haven't kicked the clock on. But if you go to swipe your card, whether to check your points, pick up a promotion, whatever, that's going to count, even if you don't bet a single hand or spin.

One issue with your example is that most people who worry about ADT are using comp rooms and many people think that the use of comp rooms activate a gaming day both checking in & out. This issue could also vary on whether the hotel is part of the casino or a contracted hotel used in some regional casinos.

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One issue with your example is that most people who worry about ADT are using comp rooms and many people think that the use of comp rooms activate a gaming day both checking in & out. This issue could also vary on whether the hotel is part of the casino or a contracted hotel used in some regional casinos.

This (what activates a "gaming day") came up here a couple months ago, and I asked my CET host about it. What I wrote is correct for CET properties, and I should probably have specified that's who I was talking about, should not have generalized for all properties. Thanks.

If you do something regarding your account, you've tripped your card, and no-play will decrease your ADT.

You can always ask a host but I've heard that use of a comped room does not stop or start any clock running.

remember, the casino wants to see your action... and often it is "action" not "average daily action" that matters most to them. the casinos know that visitors have jet lag, priorities, social engagements, shows to attend, shopping sprees, couples to meet up with, places to visit.

It depends on the casino so there is no set answer.

I can tell you that using a room at Borgata is a visit and affects your ADT (a zero trip without any play) HOWEVER, they merge your action into a max of 3 days (that is they give you an ATT Average Trip Theoretical) as opposed to a daily so you can gamble a small amount when you check in and a large amount the next day without any concern.

CET properties work almost the same way (ATT) but they do not start the clock when you check in. The hotel stay comped or not has no effect on your average. The clock starts when you log your players card into a slot machine and the trip ends within three days whether you have inserted your card for additional play or not (this is AC not sure if it is for all CET)

Tropicana AC does not affect your ADT if you check into their hotel with no additional play however they have a bean counter which will lock your players account if you use the hotel with no play. They may re-instate your offers once but not if you do it a second time. As for ADT, while the hotel stay does not have a direct affect, if you gamble small the day of your arrival and heavy the next, or vice versa, it will definitely affect your ADT in a negative manner.

I am not familiar outside the AC market but that should give you an idea of the various ways casinos can set their comps system to work.

Quote: beachbumbabs

This (what activates a "gaming day") came up here a couple months ago, and I asked my CET host about it. What I wrote is correct for CET properties, and I should probably have specified that's who I was talking about, should not have generalized for all properties. Thanks.

I think you may want to read these posts as they provide different info than what you host told you about gaming days and comp rooms.


Click or hover your mouse to enlarge image Originally Posted by Imperial_Palace_King Click or hover your mouse to enlarge image

If you check out before 6 am does it still count it as a gaming day?
A gaming day is triggered if you are in-house and using your card either for lodging, gambling, or comps. The fact that it is a checkout day is normalized and doesn't matter. Everybody that stays at one of our properties checks out eventually unless they have some sort of ability to bend space and time and erase themselves from the history of the day. It is normalized in our calculations of value and taken into consideration when assigning a customer value. It is the same for every gaming company in town so it has absolutely zero effect on you. You aren't going to have a higher value at one company or another based on gaming days since everyone does it the same and it is also the same for every player. The only time a gaming day has an outside effect is if you use a comp or play outside of a lodging trip or use a benefit outside of a lodging trip, thereby triggering a gaming day.

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I am a fan of Hunter...he answers questions for many people from his point of view. He has been a help to many. Sometimes people gt a bit rude to him; no need for that at all. That is the internet, though...all kinds of power when you are hiding behind a keyboard...

Anyway, this issue led me to think that a way to do a bit better regarding your ADT over a trip might be to check-out the day before your last day, and go to another hotel...but do the standard amount of day before last gambling at your favorite place. That way, your true "last day" isn't counted in with your other days and maybe your numbers look a bit better.