wizguy
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March 26th, 2013 at 3:07:46 AM permalink
I have been getting several $100 matchplay vouchers from a nearby casino. I like to play blackjack, but the player's advantage of splitting, double down, and 3 to 2 on a blackjack is only good towards the $100 that I put up and not the matchplay. I want to maximize my odds with these vouchers. Am I better served using them on the pass line in craps? I want to make it clear that I only play hands that I have a voucher for and then I head to the poker room. If I use these vouchers on blackjack, do I pass on certain double down and split opportunities since I will be risking $200 to win $300 instead of $100 to win $200?
chaunceyb3
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March 26th, 2013 at 3:31:42 AM permalink
Grosjean's Beyond Coupons PDF evaluates values of Match Play coupons.

http://www.beyondcounting.com/pdfs/beyondcouponsbjfo.pdf

In general, blackjack is your best bet.
odiousgambit
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March 26th, 2013 at 7:26:23 AM permalink
Quote: chaunceyb3

In general, blackjack is your best bet.



Quote: the link you provided

The thing to remember is that blackjack is rarely the best game to play when moving a match-
play coupon.



You will almost for sure be restricted to even money bets. The pass or don't pass in Craps is fine. If you really expect to get a lot of these coupons, the Player bet in baccarat is supposed to be slightly better. If you like craps but don't like to play baccarat, I wouldn't make the baccarat bet unless the situation is indeed that you have an impressive number of coupons [most people would continue to play for a while].

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/
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onenickelmiracle
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March 26th, 2013 at 7:33:29 AM permalink
It depends on the details which sometimes you don't get at certain places until you redeem.
At TS, sometimes I can't play BJ or craps for $20 or $40, but then they send $100 once and I can play BJ.
I am a robot.
Beethoven9th
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March 26th, 2013 at 7:49:28 AM permalink
The best thing to play is craps
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wizguy
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March 26th, 2013 at 3:11:38 PM permalink
Thanks! Your link answered all of my questions. Following my matchplay rules each $100 voucher is worth: blackjack $47.10, Baccarat(banker) $47.00, and craps(pass Line) 47.88
SanchoPanza
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March 26th, 2013 at 5:48:46 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

It depends on the details which sometimes you don't get at certain places until you redeem.


As we are now seeing Atlantic City, where casinos from Resorts to Caesars are sweating the money and disallowing hedges on match plays and their kissing cousins Direct Bets. All without any publicly issued printed statements or disclaimers.
24Bingo
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March 26th, 2013 at 7:10:16 PM permalink
Quote: wizguy

Thanks! Your link answered all of my questions. Following my matchplay rules each $100 voucher is worth: blackjack $47.10, Baccarat(banker) $47.00, and craps(pass Line) 47.88



You can't bet player? I know Mohegan's vouchers allow only player...

(Why is the pass line $47.88? Shouldn't it be $49.29?)

(And for that matter, I'm not sure what your casino's rules for baccarat are, but if you get to keep the coupon on ties and get $95 on a win, it's worth $48.15 - if you could bet player, assuming again you could keep it on ties, it would be $49.32.)
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March 27th, 2013 at 1:39:02 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

(Why is the pass line $47.88? Shouldn't it be $49.29?)



You must factor in the matched wager of $100 you need to put up as well.
win 49.29% * +200
lose 50.71% * -100
Comes out to 47.88, which is the EV of playing the voucher.
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March 27th, 2013 at 3:09:42 PM permalink
I like to use them on roulette. About the only time I play roulette.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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