Stupid People at the Blackjack table
March 21st, 2010 at 8:57:40 AM
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Is it true that people at your table that are not following the same strategy will mess up your strategy? Advice? Thanks!
March 21st, 2010 at 9:08:05 AM
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NO NO NO
March 21st, 2010 at 9:25:30 AM
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I assume you are talking about blackjack, as there is no other table game where another person's strategy will affect your outcome.
It will help just as much as it will hurt so No. Just because a person took a card that they shouldn't have and messes up your hand doesn't make any difference to your strategy, just the result. The chances that you make or lose your hand is exactly the same whether they took the card or not. The only difference is if you are counting cards.
For example, if you see a 4 up and you have a 12 the normal thing to stand. However, if you see a number of 10s come out as a result of the cards you see on the layout and the person next to you decides to his 15 on a two and draw yet another 10, you might feel better hitting that 12 on a four.
It will help just as much as it will hurt so No. Just because a person took a card that they shouldn't have and messes up your hand doesn't make any difference to your strategy, just the result. The chances that you make or lose your hand is exactly the same whether they took the card or not. The only difference is if you are counting cards.
For example, if you see a 4 up and you have a 12 the normal thing to stand. However, if you see a number of 10s come out as a result of the cards you see on the layout and the person next to you decides to his 15 on a two and draw yet another 10, you might feel better hitting that 12 on a four.
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March 21st, 2010 at 9:35:39 AM
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For every person that plays badly and messes up the deck, there's another time he will play badly and improve the deck. Or play correctly and mess up the deck. Or the deck would be shuffled differently. Or....
Bottom line: Don't let the stupid players bother you. Even if by chance they won that hand and you lost. It could easily have been the other way around.
Bottom line: Don't let the stupid players bother you. Even if by chance they won that hand and you lost. It could easily have been the other way around.
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March 21st, 2010 at 10:13:33 AM
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Good points all around. The worst thing a stupid player can do is get you frustrated, and this can lead to making poor betting choices because you are trying to makeup for your losses, etc. I've played at tables with people who could easily redefine the word amateur. Though it might be kind of petty, I usually do hope for a bust card for them to teach a lesson the hard way, though not out loud of course.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:15:22 AM
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If having other players at the table bothers you, try playing early and you may get a table for yourself for a few hours.
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March 21st, 2010 at 11:03:11 AM
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Excellent answer!!!Quote: derik999The worst thing a stupid player can do is get you frustrated, and this can lead to....
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April 3rd, 2010 at 7:30:34 AM
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Though the probabilities are the same, I prefer to lose hands playing at a table with other players who use the basic strategy or something close to it. It's just a mental thing but I figure if I know the basic strategy and a little extra thanks to WOO, I'd rather be around others who take the game somewhat seriously. I have no right to say whether or not people who are new to the game shouldn't play, but quite often I find myself wishing they would go play slots.
I guess high stakes poker is one solution to avoiding the newbs, but I can't afford it.
I guess high stakes poker is one solution to avoiding the newbs, but I can't afford it.
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:11:24 AM
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In the long run it may help as much as hurt, but one wonders if those who were upset will leave first and those who were too close to the felt may have already left the table. I think that those who allow themselves to become upset by someone else's poor play or someone else's good luck would be better off to have several free drinks instead. Their play will be just as much impaired by the alcohol as by the emotions but it will be more fun to be drunk than to be pissed off at someone's stupidity.Quote: boymimboIt will help just as much as it will hurt...
April 12th, 2010 at 6:33:28 AM
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I think its rather funny when people get annoyed by bad play....as a dealer I have tried to point out that 'oh 3 hands ago that person sat and you won!!!!' but they dont get it.....
April 12th, 2010 at 7:48:29 AM
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Maybe there should be an "Expert's Table" for BJ at the casinos. I picture the lousiest house rules imaginable, where the 6:5 would be the least of it, but players would have to pass a basic strategy test before being allowed to play.
I guarantee it would be the emptiest table at the casino, of course. But the dealers would refer those annoyed by other players to that table ;)
Oh, hell. It's early Monday morning and my brain isn't fully functioning yet.
I guarantee it would be the emptiest table at the casino, of course. But the dealers would refer those annoyed by other players to that table ;)
Oh, hell. It's early Monday morning and my brain isn't fully functioning yet.
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November 8th, 2018 at 1:29:04 AM
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Quote: NareedMaybe there should be an "Expert's Table" for BJ at the casinos. I picture the lousiest house rules imaginable, where the 6:5 would be the least of it, but players would have to pass a basic strategy test before being allowed to play.
I guarantee it would be the emptiest table at the casino, of course. But the dealers would refer those annoyed by other players to that table ;)
Oh, hell. It's early Monday morning and my brain isn't fully functioning yet.
There's one. HL tables.
In my opinion, people that do bother about what other people are doing at the Blackjack table should be playing there. I've had once a very aggressive player on the table, betting around 20 times the minimum stake (which most people at the table were playing) and standing when he had f.e. 12 and the dealer had 7.
This guy was getting more and more frustrated when people hit cards, stating that other people should go play outside, was dumb, etc bla bla. He was quite aggressive.
If he thinks it affects his game in the long run, he's the dumbest at the table.
November 8th, 2018 at 4:16:24 AM
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Often going against Basic Strategy is a vital, exciting and profitable part of the game sometimes prompting a few congratulatory comments from the table. Sure you are playing a hunch and giving into fears at times but when it turns out to be right, it feels good.
November 8th, 2018 at 4:45:22 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffOften going against Basic Strategy is a vital, exciting and profitable part of the game sometimes prompting a few congratulatory comments from the table. Sure you are playing a hunch and giving into fears at times but when it turns out to be right, it feels good.
true.
In case of a table without CSM it could even be better than basic strategy if you know what you're doing.
But even if not, it's nobody's business how other people play. People pretending they rule the game, but openly admitting they think other people's actions are affecting their game, in the long run, are jokers.
November 8th, 2018 at 8:11:16 AM
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its nice to have a sociable game. Congratulate players on a risk deviation that turned out well,
commiserate when that 20 loses to a dealer's 21.
But this you screwed up the natural order of the universe my taking MY card is just utter nonsense
and never much fun.
commiserate when that 20 loses to a dealer's 21.
But this you screwed up the natural order of the universe my taking MY card is just utter nonsense
and never much fun.
