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August 18th, 2011 at 7:38:34 AM permalink
One of my favorite time wasters is Hearts. Yesterday I was dealt this hand.



The odds of getting 10 out of the 13 hearts? 1 in 242,950.8. How about that!
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August 18th, 2011 at 7:45:33 AM permalink
I don't play hearts as much as I used to, but that's not a bad hand. You can get rid of the Qs when the clubs come out, and if there's a streak of diamonds and clubs you can get rid of your hearts.

Am I close to being right?

Maybe we can play online someday. How about a WoV Hearts tournament? Anyone interested? I was fodder for chess, but i should win a game or two at hearts ;)
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August 18th, 2011 at 7:53:21 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I don't play hearts as much as I used to, but that's not a bad hand. You can get rid of the Qs when the clubs come out, and if there's a streak of diamonds and clubs you can get rid of your hearts.



I couldn't help but try to shoot the moon with that hand, despite not having the ace of hearts. One reason was this was late in the match and I was way ahead, so could afford to take chances. So I passed the two diamonds and the two of hearts. Fortunately, when I played a high club that got passed to me, another opponent played the ace of hearts, and the rest was easy.

Quote: Nareed

Maybe we can play online someday. How about a WoV Hearts tournament? Anyone interested? I was fodder for chess, but i should win a game or two at hearts ;)



I'd be up for that! Can you suggest a venue? Maybe if we get two more we could start with a friendly game.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:05:44 AM permalink
Wow. Not only that, but the Black Widow too!

How did you do? Dump all those points on other people?

I don't see any way you can win a trick at the right time, so that you'd shoot the moon....


[edit] I stand corrected.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:08:46 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I don't see any way you can win a trick at the right time, so that you'd shoot the moon....



As I wrote above I was lucky that one of other players played the ace of hearts on me when I played a high club. A lousy play, but I noticed the computer has been playing stupid lately.

It seems to me that if my win percentage gets to 47% or lower then my opponents play quite badly, and I win matches by large margins. However, as you creep up from 48% to 50% the game gets tougher. I have never been able to stay above 50% for long.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:11:15 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wow. Not only that, but the Black Widow too!

How did you do? Dump all those points on other people?

I don't see any way you can win a trick at the right time, so that you'd shoot the moon....


[edit] I stand corrected.



I thought the same as you. But I think what we're looking at is the hand pre-pass. After the pass, it's much easier, since the low diamonds are replaced by (apparently) a high club.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:19:05 AM permalink
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I thought the same as you. But I think what we're looking at is the hand pre-pass. After the pass, it's much easier, since the low diamonds are replaced by (apparently) a high club.



I got two high clubs and a high diamond on the pass.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:19:58 AM permalink
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It seems to me that if my win percentage gets to 47% or lower then my opponents play quite badly, and I win matches by large margins. However, as you creep up from 48% to 50% the game gets tougher. I have never been able to stay above 50% for long.



Your computer sounds tough. I have played on three different computers and always around 80 percent. I dont think my computer's play was getting tougher as my winning percentage improved. I love to change the opponent's names.
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August 18th, 2011 at 8:41:03 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I don't play hearts as much as I used to, but that's not a bad hand. You can get rid of the Qs when the clubs come out, and if there's a streak of diamonds and clubs you can get rid of your hearts.



In some versions you can't dump a point on the first trick.
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August 18th, 2011 at 9:05:21 AM permalink
The only way I play computerized any more is to play for 104-104-104-0. And I don't really try, only sometimes do I bother to track the cards and figure out what's where. As soon as I get the Qs, I exit and restart.

I think I did that once, 4 shoots in a row to start the game. And it was against the old style hearts, in Windows Professional. I consider it a W if I get less than 10 before someone else gets 100.
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August 18th, 2011 at 10:27:39 AM permalink
Either I suck or I have a hard game to win. At least it gets hard if you get close to a 50% win rate. For what it is worth, I have Window Vista.

My record is 1 point.

When the game is in "easy" mode, where my win rate is 47% or less, I usually win a match with under 20 points. In hard mode, if I win at all, I'm pushing 100 points.
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August 18th, 2011 at 11:17:09 AM permalink
Is it possible to discern what cards are being passed based on which cards are 'pushed out'. (ie: Does the computer always sort it's suits the same way?)
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August 18th, 2011 at 4:13:19 PM permalink
Wiz et al:

Here's something to try if you have company for the holidays, because
you need at least 6 players.

We call it double-deck hearts.

The fun part here is that if 2 cards of the same rank/suit are played
in one hand, they cancel out and can not take the trick. But the points
still count for whoever takes the trick.

Lots of fun & yuks. Especially when a 2 of diamonds takes 26
or more points, even though diamonds was led, because the
other diamonds match and cancel out.
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August 19th, 2011 at 1:42:27 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I couldn't help but try to shoot the moon with that hand, despite not having the ace of hearts.



My brother and me used to play a lot back when Win95 came out. We quickly tried to shoot the moon every time, naturally, and managed some impressive scores. Now I think that olf WinHearts was not a very good opponent. Still, even back then when I got a score of zero, I knew I'd gotten lucky.


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I'd be up for that! Can you suggest a venue? Maybe if we get two more we could start with a friendly game.



I should think Yahoo games has it, but I don't know. I'll PM you over the weekend.
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August 19th, 2011 at 6:59:29 AM permalink
If there are those who are interested, pogo.com - 100% free to join, has a hearts room. I play lots of bridge on that web site, and it is really great. There are a gazillion other games too, some multiplayer (chess, euchre, backgammon) some solo (boggle, solotaire, etc..). So if we want a WoV hearts tourney it can easily be done on pogo for no charge. We would just have to agree on a time.
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August 19th, 2011 at 10:34:03 AM permalink
I probably would have passed J hearts, Q hearts, Q spades. You had enough low hearts to duck heart tricks, and keeping K hearts keeps someone from running the suit. Then your risk would be receiving a pass of something like A clubs/K spades/A spades. I would have counted on receiving clubs, but less so the high spades as there were 12 unseen spades split among three people, and most people don't pass K or A if they're spade-rich.

Back in high school we never heard of that wimpy "no dumping points on the first trick" rule. It's a shame Microsoft had to inflict that standard on everyone.
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August 19th, 2011 at 10:39:15 AM permalink
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Back in high school we never heard of that wimpy "no dumping points on the first trick" rule. It's a shame Microsoft had to inflict that standard on everyone.



In Baltimore my circle of hearts players played where you couldn't do that. What was more subject to debate was whether playing the Queen of Spades broke hearts.
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August 19th, 2011 at 10:48:24 AM permalink
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In Baltimore my circle of hearts players played where you couldn't do that. What was more subject to debate was whether playing the Queen of Spades broke hearts.



I guess we were pretty liberal. The Queen always broke hearts. Also, the Jack of diamonds was minus 10. This would have been Charlotte, NC.
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August 19th, 2011 at 1:36:43 PM permalink
I've played a few different ways. One was that hearts could be led after the 4th trick, broken or not. I've played anything goes on the first trick. I've played where person to the left of dealer leads, rather than 2c (that is when you have anything goes first trick, the Qs holder can't safely void clubs). I've played Jd=-11, and with that Jd rule I've played that you have to get it to shoot, and I've played that you didn't have to get it to shoot. I've played "hit 100 exactly go back to 0". I've played Qs breaks, and Qs doesn't break.

I've played the double deck game JohnnyQ referred to, that's pretty wild. Yeah, you lead the 2d... and see Ad, Ad, Qs, Qs, Kh, 10d, 10d. And maybe you were that first 10d, and you were trying to shoot!
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August 19th, 2011 at 4:14:31 PM permalink
I would be down for a Hearts and/or Spades WoV tourney. Just give me a time and place.
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August 20th, 2011 at 4:08:51 PM permalink
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I should think Yahoo games has it, but I don't know. I'll PM you over the weekend.



Strike that.

I'll PM me you, possibly, next weekend. Work has picked up lately. I'm even working now :(
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July 6th, 2014 at 6:51:56 PM permalink
iphone/pad hearts multiplayer hd is nice since you can go against other random live players
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