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July 15th, 2018 at 8:42:38 PM permalink
Quote: troopscott

Quote: RS

You first. [/I have not sent mine yet



Never mind.
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July 15th, 2018 at 9:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: RS

You first.



I have not submitted mine yet
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July 16th, 2018 at 8:00:39 PM permalink
For the big poolers:
Rather than sharing now, is there more value in a “long play”? i.e., getting the “Banker” to continue upping the total offer after few more rounds of non-cooperation, rather than all sharing now and, maybe, settling for a lower overall total when the game is done.
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July 17th, 2018 at 4:40:51 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

Share it is.



I totally agree :-)

Will it happen, well that's another question???
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July 17th, 2018 at 4:52:33 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

For the big poolers:
Rather than sharing now, is there more value in a “long play”? i.e., getting the “Banker” to continue upping the total offer after few more rounds of non-cooperation, rather than all sharing now and, maybe, settling for a lower overall total when the game is done.



This is a side consideration. If you remember, if everyone would have followed King SOOPOO's lead, the game would have been easily beaten, but been boring as well. Since the dollars are so small the value of 'interest in the game' exceeds the value of the money Wiz is putting up. Even given your concern, I think 'share' is the correct thing to do this round.

I expect Mike to make it 'worthwhile' for someone to steal the last round, if that person is a non poll person.
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July 17th, 2018 at 7:09:23 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

This is a side consideration. If you remember, if everyone would have followed King SOOPOO's lead, the game would have been easily beaten, but been boring as well. Since the dollars are so small the value of 'interest in the game' exceeds the value of the money Wiz is putting up. Even given your concern, I think 'share' is the correct thing to do this round.

I expect Mike to make it 'worthwhile' for someone to steal the last round, if that person is a non poll person.



I think there was a revolution on or around 7/4.
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July 17th, 2018 at 8:37:32 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

...Anyway, my team has already shared. I kind of feel like either nobody is going to steal or 3+ teams are going to steal, which would just be silly in this round. Not only will Wizard pay out $20 less for the round (though I do maintain there is a maximum he plans to pay out in total, to begin with, we just don't know what that is) but each person on the three (or more) teams will make less.

I think you're missing the bigger picture for the "pooled players." We don't care if we each get 50 cents this round. It's all about getting the MAJORITY of the bank for the POOL, not ourselves. The odds of everyone sharing is abysmal at this point, so why let the greater chunk potentially go to the non-pool? If we have several teams vote STEAL, then any 'non-pooled' players can only steal like 5% or 10% of the pool from us... meaning we get the large majority of the money for the pool.

Quote: RS

Just share guys. We’ll split more money that way.

Coming from the guy who said "I just want to make this as complicated as possible..." Yeah, share so he can STEAL and put it towards his own pool... Again, if we have at least half the teams vote STEAL then RS can only ever get pennies for his pool. The ONLY WAY he can get a chunk for his pool is when we all vote share and he votes steal. Think about it...


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July 17th, 2018 at 8:44:13 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

hopefully we can get a group to actually share, but I am not hopeful.


I just submitted my vote to wizard.



Since you're my captain, I'm having a hard time interpreting this post.

Hopefully...so you'll do your part and vote share..

I am not hopeful....so I'm stealing.

Very cryptic. Submitted without even asking your team?

My guess is you voted share.
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July 17th, 2018 at 9:30:34 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Submitted without even asking your team?



Best part of being captain =)

How is there every single mod playing here yet no one's trying to pay off a judge? I'm sharing, Babs is sharing, OD I think is sharing but regardless, there's the majority. Not one person tried a "share or nuke" decree yet?

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July 19th, 2018 at 9:59:00 AM permalink
Here are the results of round six.

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 SM777 gamerfreak, gordonm888, Joeman, UKMark Steal
2 Mission146 Torghatten, PlayYourCardsRight, SOOPOO, Mikey75 Share
3 troopscott Ayecarumba, djatc, AxelWolf, Nathan Steal
4 GWAE RS, PokerGrinder, beachbumbabs, miplet Steal
5 Jufo81 MaxPen, Dalex64, prozema, Romes Share
6 Face DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, onenickelmiracle Share
7 Keeneone MidwestAP, OnceDear, JohnnyQ Share


Congratulations to teams 1, 3 and 4 for splitting the pot three ways only. Commiserations to the other four teams.
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:04:42 AM permalink
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:06:30 AM permalink
Wow.

Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.

10.00/15 = .67 each

30.00/33 = .91 each
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:07:11 AM permalink
Fail lol
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:31:12 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Wow.

Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.

10.00/15 = .67 each

30.00/33 = .91 each



I guess it depends on how you look at it. There were two obvious steal candidates who are not pooling.

When I voted steal it was with the intention that if I was the only steal I would make up the $20.

So by me voting to steal the pillars retained an additional 3.33 to the pool that would be being split by a few non poolers
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:32:07 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Fail lol



And remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:56:19 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Wow.

Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.

10.00/15 = .67 each

30.00/33 = .91 each


>$0
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July 19th, 2018 at 10:59:57 AM permalink
one other thing I actually messaged a couple non steal leaders to have the 5 "share teams" vote steal so they non poolers would get nothing but one insisted on sharing no matter what
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July 19th, 2018 at 11:25:51 AM permalink
Quote: troopscott

And remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)



I think that is what many fail to understand. If it's not good for them, it's not good for anyone. WRONG.
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July 19th, 2018 at 11:28:21 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

Share it is.



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July 19th, 2018 at 12:25:40 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Wow.

Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.

10.00/15 = .67 each

30.00/33 = .91 each



Yeah, that’s exactly what I tried to explain and then in the same post predicted three or more teams would steal, anyway.

Do you think you guys could successfully share were Wizard to offer the equivalent of $2/player for everyone to share?

Probably not. One of the teams with four players would just steal, if not both.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 19th, 2018 at 12:27:25 PM permalink
Quote: troopscott

And remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)



Yeah, were they the only two to do it.
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July 19th, 2018 at 12:53:59 PM permalink
Can't wait to see the rules for the next round so we can shoot ourselves in the foot again.
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July 19th, 2018 at 1:17:44 PM permalink
Quote: Keeneone



I don't think anyone actually thought I was going to share. At least I hope not....
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July 19th, 2018 at 1:47:14 PM permalink
Based on the assumption GWAE was 90% sure to steal, couldn't blame someone to also steal.
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July 19th, 2018 at 1:55:24 PM permalink
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July 19th, 2018 at 2:28:32 PM permalink
Ready for Round 7?

Here are the teams:

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 OnceDear Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888
2 Ayecarumba MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS
3 djatc Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ
4 onenickelmiracle Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79
5 prozema Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight
6 DJTeddyBear beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten
7 MaxPen Face, Nathan, UKMark


Here are the other details:

  • Pool with at least one steal: $20
  • Pool with all share votes: $50
  • Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.


I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
Last edited by: Wizard on Jul 19, 2018
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July 19th, 2018 at 3:43:06 PM permalink
Every team leader send me a PM.
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July 19th, 2018 at 3:48:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Ready for Round 7?

I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."



This round is actually interesting because the percentage difference for sharing (250%) is actually less than it was (300%) the previous round, though the raw $$$ amount is greater.

This is basically the same conundrum as last round with only one minor difference. Three teams can steal and each individual person would be better off, but only if two of the three stealing teams have four players.

50/33 = 1.5151515

20/13 = 1.5384615

20/14 = 1.4285714

I haven't looked at the team leaders who are in the main pool, or anything like that. I probably won't. Even though my vote would automatically be, "Share," if I were a team leader, I'm not, and I doubt if the vote would even fall all the way down to me.
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July 19th, 2018 at 4:18:04 PM permalink
By my recollection there are two stealers as leaders this week. All leaders need to steal


Quote: Mission146

Quote: Wizard

Ready for Round 7?

I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."



This round is actually interesting because the percentage difference for sharing (250%) is actually less than it was (300%) the previous round, though the raw $$$ amount is greater.

This is basically the same conundrum as last round with only one minor difference. Three teams can steal and each individual person would be better off, but only if two of the three stealing teams have four players.

50/33 = 1.5151515

20/13 = 1.5384615

20/14 = 1.4285714

I haven't looked at the team leaders who are in the main pool, or anything like that. I probably won't. Even though my vote would automatically be, "Share," if I were a team leader, I'm not, and I doubt if the vote would even fall all the way down to me.

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July 19th, 2018 at 4:26:06 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Based on the assumption GWAE was 90% sure to steal, couldn't blame someone to also steal.



Yeah, I have to agree. Good job, whoever the 3rd captain was. Nice spoil.

However, I wouldn't mind knowing why you felt 90% confident in GWAEs vote. I had some hope he would share. But he didn't talk to us.
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July 19th, 2018 at 4:28:10 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Yeah, I have to agree. Good job, whoever the 3rd captain was. Nice spoil.

However, I wouldn't mind knowing why you felt 90% confident in GWAEs vote. I had some hope he would share. But he didn't talk to us.


Axelwolf said it best, GWAE would sell out anyone for a Pepsi. I was on a team with Face as the leader, didn't bother advising him, because I thought he would want to share no matter what.
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July 19th, 2018 at 4:42:42 PM permalink
I will vote steal unless I hear from all other team leaders that they are voting share. If a majority of my teammates would like to vote share I will do that as well regardless of what other captains do. Let me know.
Unfortunately, it has been proven that there are alot of thieves on this forum.
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July 19th, 2018 at 5:25:30 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Axelwolf said it best, GWAE would sell out anyone for a Pepsi. I was on a team with Face as the leader, didn't bother advising him, because I thought he would want to share no matter what.



HAHA yeah that may just be but it would have to be at least a 1 liter.

I was a little cryptic in my message a few days ago but BBB sniffed that one out. The reason I stole was I knew 100% for sure there was another team stealing.
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July 19th, 2018 at 6:01:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Ready for Round 7?

Here are the teams:

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 OnceDear Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888
2 Ayecarumba MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS
3 djatc Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ
4 onenickelmiracle Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79
5 prozema Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight
6 DJTeddyBear beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten
7 MaxPen Face, Nathan, UKMark


Here are the other details:

  • Pool with at least one steal: $20
  • Pool with all share votes: $50
  • Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.


I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."



For round 7 I intend to vote STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL.

Main reason, it's pretty clear we are not capable of all voting share.

If someone wants to organize an effort to all share, let me know. I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.
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July 19th, 2018 at 6:40:45 PM permalink
As before, my vote will reflect the wishes of my team, even if it isn’t in my personal financial interest as a non-pooler.

Before everyone votes “steal”, a reminder that there is a condition where the only winner of the round is Wizard.

That being said, I think an effort to all share 50 is worthwhile.
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July 19th, 2018 at 11:27:38 PM permalink
I looked at the list of team leaders. And Ayecarumbas entire team, since he announced he wants to go with the majority of his team wishes.

I only think one team captain could be a problem. Since I think he's a reasonable person and a good guy I think he would also share if he thought all others were going to as well.

Team Ayecarumba, MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS
IMO MidwestAP will want to do what has the best value and consider his team wishes (he will take into account what he thinks the other teams will do). We have RS and PG on the same team. Putting them two guys on the same team might create a situation where they might want to pull some shenanigans, just because.

If this random group of team leaders can't all vote share then I don't think we will ever have a chance. So far, it's the most favorable group of team captains for sharing that we have had so far and likely the best we will have going forward.

We have OnceDear who I normally think would share given the value, however, there is a good chance he's trying to bury his nose in Mikes ass hoping for a paid Mod position at some point. Also, at least 2 members on his team will suggest stealing. But I really think he will go with the value if he thinks most/all teams will share.

Can we get all the team leaders to tell us what they intend to do and why? If they have a logical reason they are thinking of stealing perhaps the other team leaders will be able to convince them that's not the case.

prozema: Not sure what the majority of your team will suggest(it looks sketchy), I suggest you tell them to FK off and just do the right thing. There's no real value in voting with your teams steal wishes just because they are your current team since they are not really your team and won't be in the future.
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July 20th, 2018 at 3:28:14 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

We have OnceDear who I normally think would share given the value, however, there is a good chance he's trying to bury his nose in Mikes ass hoping for a paid Mod position at some point.

LOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.

Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.

So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.

My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.
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July 20th, 2018 at 3:44:40 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Ready for Round 7?

Here are the teams:

Team Leader Followers Vote
1 OnceDear Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888
2 Ayecarumba MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS
3 djatc Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ
4 onenickelmiracle Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79
5 prozema Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight
6 DJTeddyBear beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten
7 MaxPen Face, Nathan, UKMark


Here are the other details:

  • Pool with at least one steal: $20
  • Pool with all share votes: $50
  • Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.


I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."



Hmmmmf....
So far, it looks like there is very little chance that all teams will vote share, because of the well thought out constitution of the teams and the rogues in team leader roles.
So... Let's see if we cant incentivize an 'all share' outcome... and screw the max out of Mike.

If all teams 'share' I'll add $50 the the pot making it a princely $100 total. I'll add nothing if there is a steal.

You get to screw Mike to the max and screw me to the max as well. A Win-Win-Win scenario.

However, I need to throw out this observation. I'm one of the voting team leaders and turkeys do not always vote for Thanksgiving. I do not celebrate Thanksgiving.

$;o)
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July 20th, 2018 at 3:51:29 AM permalink
I wish just once everyone would vote share. I also realized when others are saying this, that is a lie. The pool strategy is already stated for the record, they will have some people steal, and some share. The pool strategy is to trick hold outs to vote share. Maxpen made that strategy too obvious by suddenly advocating voting steal.
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July 20th, 2018 at 3:55:10 AM permalink
I've got this thing and it's ****ing golden, and, uh, uh, I'm just not giving it up for ****in' nothing. I'm not gonna do it.
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July 20th, 2018 at 4:57:03 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I'm willing to sell my vote.



How much? I'm in the market for vote buying.
Won't your team-mates get upset with you if you betray them?

:o)
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July 20th, 2018 at 4:58:58 AM permalink
Glad to see some others looking at what I was trying to do last round

Quote: OnceDear

LOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.

Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.

So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.

My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.

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July 20th, 2018 at 5:05:57 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

How much? I'm in the market for vote buying.
Won't your team-mates get upset with you if you betray them?

:o)

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July 20th, 2018 at 5:21:17 AM permalink
I'm going to choose Share all the way through. :)
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July 20th, 2018 at 5:23:42 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

$7, no checks.

I'll take it. How would you like payment? I can either send it to you by paypal, or I can send it to Mike to be credited to your account in the game.
I'll need you to agree to a non-disclosure agreement and will need Mike to confirm that you have honored your side of the deal before I send Payment. Mike or BBB will vouch for my honesty in making payment as promised.
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AxelWolf
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July 20th, 2018 at 6:04:21 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

LOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.

Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.

So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.

My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.

Can't afford you as in can't afford to have you around too much longer in fear you will mess up the site somehow.


If I/we can get Prozema to change his mind are you willing to commit to a share? I didn't see anyone that I think wouldn't be willing to share. I think everyone would be willing to others word for it that they will share. and I think they everyone their commitment.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
OnceDear
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July 20th, 2018 at 6:16:13 AM permalink
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Can't afford you as in can't afford to have you around too much longer in fear you will mess up the site somehow.

Yes. That'll be it :o)
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If I/we can get Prozema to change his mind are you willing to commit to a share?


I've said I'll place the team vote based on the majority of my team ( including myself) I personally yield $50 if all teams vote share, but I might accept that cost if it gets us all cooperating against Mike. I have a vote of my own and will probably not be trusted to use the team vote to 'share'.

That said, I'm open to persuasion. Whatever makes the game more fun.

Oh..... And Wizard tried to recruit me to the dark side, whatever that means.

Shout out to Joeman. Miplet and Gordonm888.
Please get your preferences to me by 22:00 Sunday to allow for timezone differences and my own commitments, I already have SM777's preference.
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AxelWolf
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July 20th, 2018 at 6:18:12 AM permalink
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I wish just once everyone would vote share. I also realized when others are saying this, that is a lie.

Once you say that, everyone thinks you think they are lying and you are going to steal. If they think you are going to steal because you think they will steal then of course they are going to steal. If everyone stopped worrying what others are going to do and just shared there wouldn't be a problem for the most part.

Yes, there are a few people who will steal no matter what, however, I don't think we have that situation this time.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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July 20th, 2018 at 6:23:43 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Yes. That'll be it :o)

I've said I'll place the team vote based on the majority of my team ( including myself) I personally yield $50 if all teams vote share, but I might accept that cost if it gets us all cooperating against Mike. I have a vote of my own and will probably not be trusted to use the team vote to 'share'.

That said, I'm open to persuasion. Whatever makes the game more fun.

Oh..... And Wizard tried to recruit me to the dark side, whatever that means.

Shout out to Joeman. Miplet and Gordonm888.
Please get your preferences to me by 22:00 Sunday to allow for timezone differences and my own commitments, I already have SM777's preference.

You know GD well that 3 people on your team have a propensity to steal. Too bad you can't think for yourself.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
troopscott
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July 20th, 2018 at 6:34:11 AM permalink
everyone needs to steal every round until the end. It is the non poolers and side poolers who have competing interests to steal regardless. If you knuckleheads keep voting share and they keep stealing they are boosting their pool (side poolers) or non poolers total take home.


In an effort to minimize their take and sine the poolers pool is already over $100 I think all leaders should vote steal and cause the side poolers and non poolers to vote share to get a small scrap from their members on steal teams or nothing and keep their pools and take home to a minimum.

The only way to share is if all 7 leaders are main poolers which I have not seen yet
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