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Quote: troopscottQuote: RSYou first. [/I have not sent mine yet
Never mind.
Quote: RSYou first.
I have not submitted mine yet
Rather than sharing now, is there more value in a “long play”? i.e., getting the “Banker” to continue upping the total offer after few more rounds of non-cooperation, rather than all sharing now and, maybe, settling for a lower overall total when the game is done.
Quote: SM777Share it is.
I totally agree :-)
Will it happen, well that's another question???
Quote: AyecarumbaFor the big poolers:
Rather than sharing now, is there more value in a “long play”? i.e., getting the “Banker” to continue upping the total offer after few more rounds of non-cooperation, rather than all sharing now and, maybe, settling for a lower overall total when the game is done.
This is a side consideration. If you remember, if everyone would have followed King SOOPOO's lead, the game would have been easily beaten, but been boring as well. Since the dollars are so small the value of 'interest in the game' exceeds the value of the money Wiz is putting up. Even given your concern, I think 'share' is the correct thing to do this round.
I expect Mike to make it 'worthwhile' for someone to steal the last round, if that person is a non poll person.
Quote: SOOPOOThis is a side consideration. If you remember, if everyone would have followed King SOOPOO's lead, the game would have been easily beaten, but been boring as well. Since the dollars are so small the value of 'interest in the game' exceeds the value of the money Wiz is putting up. Even given your concern, I think 'share' is the correct thing to do this round.
I expect Mike to make it 'worthwhile' for someone to steal the last round, if that person is a non poll person.
I think there was a revolution on or around 7/4.
I think you're missing the bigger picture for the "pooled players." We don't care if we each get 50 cents this round. It's all about getting the MAJORITY of the bank for the POOL, not ourselves. The odds of everyone sharing is abysmal at this point, so why let the greater chunk potentially go to the non-pool? If we have several teams vote STEAL, then any 'non-pooled' players can only steal like 5% or 10% of the pool from us... meaning we get the large majority of the money for the pool.Quote: Mission146...Anyway, my team has already shared. I kind of feel like either nobody is going to steal or 3+ teams are going to steal, which would just be silly in this round. Not only will Wizard pay out $20 less for the round (though I do maintain there is a maximum he plans to pay out in total, to begin with, we just don't know what that is) but each person on the three (or more) teams will make less.
Coming from the guy who said "I just want to make this as complicated as possible..." Yeah, share so he can STEAL and put it towards his own pool... Again, if we have at least half the teams vote STEAL then RS can only ever get pennies for his pool. The ONLY WAY he can get a chunk for his pool is when we all vote share and he votes steal. Think about it...Quote: RSJust share guys. We’ll split more money that way.
#VoteSteal #BurnItDown #1TeamVoteShare
Quote: GWAEhopefully we can get a group to actually share, but I am not hopeful.
I just submitted my vote to wizard.
Since you're my captain, I'm having a hard time interpreting this post.
Hopefully...so you'll do your part and vote share..
I am not hopeful....so I'm stealing.
Very cryptic. Submitted without even asking your team?
My guess is you voted share.
Quote: beachbumbabsSubmitted without even asking your team?
Best part of being captain =)
How is there every single mod playing here yet no one's trying to pay off a judge? I'm sharing, Babs is sharing, OD I think is sharing but regardless, there's the majority. Not one person tried a "share or nuke" decree yet?
This is America. Get your s@#$ together.
Team | Leader | Followers | Vote |
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1 | SM777 | gamerfreak, gordonm888, Joeman, UKMark | Steal |
2 | Mission146 | Torghatten, PlayYourCardsRight, SOOPOO, Mikey75 | Share |
3 | troopscott | Ayecarumba, djatc, AxelWolf, Nathan | Steal |
4 | GWAE | RS, PokerGrinder, beachbumbabs, miplet | Steal |
5 | Jufo81 | MaxPen, Dalex64, prozema, Romes | Share |
6 | Face | DJTeddyBear, Jmarch79, onenickelmiracle | Share |
7 | Keeneone | MidwestAP, OnceDear, JohnnyQ | Share |
Congratulations to teams 1, 3 and 4 for splitting the pot three ways only. Commiserations to the other four teams.
Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.
10.00/15 = .67 each
30.00/33 = .91 each
Quote: beachbumbabsWow.
Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.
10.00/15 = .67 each
30.00/33 = .91 each
I guess it depends on how you look at it. There were two obvious steal candidates who are not pooling.
When I voted steal it was with the intention that if I was the only steal I would make up the $20.
So by me voting to steal the pillars retained an additional 3.33 to the pool that would be being split by a few non poolers
Quote: PokerGrinderFail lol
And remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)
Quote: beachbumbabsWow.
Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.
10.00/15 = .67 each
30.00/33 = .91 each
>$0
Quote: troopscottAnd remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)
I think that is what many fail to understand. If it's not good for them, it's not good for anyone. WRONG.
Quote: SM777Share it is.
Quote: beachbumbabsWow.
Pretty lame choice, captains 1,3,4. Especially on a math board.
10.00/15 = .67 each
30.00/33 = .91 each
Yeah, that’s exactly what I tried to explain and then in the same post predicted three or more teams would steal, anyway.
Do you think you guys could successfully share were Wizard to offer the equivalent of $2/player for everyone to share?
Probably not. One of the teams with four players would just steal, if not both.
Quote: troopscottAnd remember 2 teams stealing was good for them (a profit)
Yeah, were they the only two to do it.
Quote: Keeneone
I don't think anyone actually thought I was going to share. At least I hope not....
Here are the teams:
Team | Leader | Followers | Vote |
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1 | OnceDear | Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888 | |
2 | Ayecarumba | MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS | |
3 | djatc | Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ | |
4 | onenickelmiracle | Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79 | |
5 | prozema | Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight | |
6 | DJTeddyBear | beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten | |
7 | MaxPen | Face, Nathan, UKMark |
Here are the other details:
- Pool with at least one steal: $20
- Pool with all share votes: $50
- Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.
I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
Quote: WizardReady for Round 7?
I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
This round is actually interesting because the percentage difference for sharing (250%) is actually less than it was (300%) the previous round, though the raw $$$ amount is greater.
This is basically the same conundrum as last round with only one minor difference. Three teams can steal and each individual person would be better off, but only if two of the three stealing teams have four players.
50/33 = 1.5151515
20/13 = 1.5384615
20/14 = 1.4285714
I haven't looked at the team leaders who are in the main pool, or anything like that. I probably won't. Even though my vote would automatically be, "Share," if I were a team leader, I'm not, and I doubt if the vote would even fall all the way down to me.
Quote: Mission146Quote: WizardReady for Round 7?
I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
This round is actually interesting because the percentage difference for sharing (250%) is actually less than it was (300%) the previous round, though the raw $$$ amount is greater.
This is basically the same conundrum as last round with only one minor difference. Three teams can steal and each individual person would be better off, but only if two of the three stealing teams have four players.
50/33 = 1.5151515
20/13 = 1.5384615
20/14 = 1.4285714
I haven't looked at the team leaders who are in the main pool, or anything like that. I probably won't. Even though my vote would automatically be, "Share," if I were a team leader, I'm not, and I doubt if the vote would even fall all the way down to me.
Quote: onenickelmiracleBased on the assumption GWAE was 90% sure to steal, couldn't blame someone to also steal.
Yeah, I have to agree. Good job, whoever the 3rd captain was. Nice spoil.
However, I wouldn't mind knowing why you felt 90% confident in GWAEs vote. I had some hope he would share. But he didn't talk to us.
Quote: beachbumbabsYeah, I have to agree. Good job, whoever the 3rd captain was. Nice spoil.
However, I wouldn't mind knowing why you felt 90% confident in GWAEs vote. I had some hope he would share. But he didn't talk to us.
Axelwolf said it best, GWAE would sell out anyone for a Pepsi. I was on a team with Face as the leader, didn't bother advising him, because I thought he would want to share no matter what.
Unfortunately, it has been proven that there are alot of thieves on this forum.
Quote: onenickelmiracleAxelwolf said it best, GWAE would sell out anyone for a Pepsi. I was on a team with Face as the leader, didn't bother advising him, because I thought he would want to share no matter what.
HAHA yeah that may just be but it would have to be at least a 1 liter.
I was a little cryptic in my message a few days ago but BBB sniffed that one out. The reason I stole was I knew 100% for sure there was another team stealing.
Quote: WizardReady for Round 7?
Here are the teams:
Team Leader Followers Vote 1 OnceDear Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888 2 Ayecarumba MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS 3 djatc Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ 4 onenickelmiracle Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79 5 prozema Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight 6 DJTeddyBear beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten 7 MaxPen Face, Nathan, UKMark
Here are the other details:
- Pool with at least one steal: $20
- Pool with all share votes: $50
- Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.
I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
For round 7 I intend to vote STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL.
Main reason, it's pretty clear we are not capable of all voting share.
If someone wants to organize an effort to all share, let me know. I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.
Before everyone votes “steal”, a reminder that there is a condition where the only winner of the round is Wizard.
That being said, I think an effort to all share 50 is worthwhile.
I only think one team captain could be a problem. Since I think he's a reasonable person and a good guy I think he would also share if he thought all others were going to as well.
Team Ayecarumba, MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS
IMO MidwestAP will want to do what has the best value and consider his team wishes (he will take into account what he thinks the other teams will do). We have RS and PG on the same team. Putting them two guys on the same team might create a situation where they might want to pull some shenanigans, just because.
If this random group of team leaders can't all vote share then I don't think we will ever have a chance. So far, it's the most favorable group of team captains for sharing that we have had so far and likely the best we will have going forward.
We have OnceDear who I normally think would share given the value, however, there is a good chance he's trying to bury his nose in Mikes ass hoping for a paid Mod position at some point. Also, at least 2 members on his team will suggest stealing. But I really think he will go with the value if he thinks most/all teams will share.
Can we get all the team leaders to tell us what they intend to do and why? If they have a logical reason they are thinking of stealing perhaps the other team leaders will be able to convince them that's not the case.
prozema: Not sure what the majority of your team will suggest(it looks sketchy), I suggest you tell them to FK off and just do the right thing. There's no real value in voting with your teams steal wishes just because they are your current team since they are not really your team and won't be in the future.
LOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.Quote: AxelWolfWe have OnceDear who I normally think would share given the value, however, there is a good chance he's trying to bury his nose in Mikes ass hoping for a paid Mod position at some point.
Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.
So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.
My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.
Quote: WizardReady for Round 7?
Here are the teams:
Team Leader Followers Vote 1 OnceDear Joeman, miplet, SM777, gordonm888 2 Ayecarumba MidwestAP, PokerGrinder, Dalex64, RS 3 djatc Romes, GWAE, Mission146, JohnnyQ 4 onenickelmiracle Mikey75, AxelWolf, gamerfreak, Jmarch79 5 prozema Keeneone, Jufo81, troopscott, PlayYourCardsRight 6 DJTeddyBear beachbumbabs, SOOPOO, Torghatten 7 MaxPen Face, Nathan, UKMark
Here are the other details:
- Pool with at least one steal: $20
- Pool with all share votes: $50
- Deadline: 9AM Vegas time, Monday, July 23.
I'd like to remind everyone that advance votes will no longer be accepted. If I don't hear from a team captain, I'll accept a vote from the first listed "follower."
Hmmmmf....
So far, it looks like there is very little chance that all teams will vote share, because of the well thought out constitution of the teams and the rogues in team leader roles.
So... Let's see if we cant incentivize an 'all share' outcome... and screw the max out of Mike.
If all teams 'share' I'll add $50 the the pot making it a princely $100 total. I'll add nothing if there is a steal.
You get to screw Mike to the max and screw me to the max as well. A Win-Win-Win scenario.
However, I need to throw out this observation. I'm one of the voting team leaders and turkeys do not always vote for Thanksgiving. I do not celebrate Thanksgiving.
$;o)
I'm willing to sell my vote.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm willing to sell my vote.
How much? I'm in the market for vote buying.
Won't your team-mates get upset with you if you betray them?
:o)
Quote: OnceDearLOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.
Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.
So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.
My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.
$7, no checks.Quote: OnceDearHow much? I'm in the market for vote buying.
Won't your team-mates get upset with you if you betray them?
:o)
I'll take it. How would you like payment? I can either send it to you by paypal, or I can send it to Mike to be credited to your account in the game.Quote: onenickelmiracle$7, no checks.
I'll need you to agree to a non-disclosure agreement and will need Mike to confirm that you have honored your side of the deal before I send Payment. Mike or BBB will vouch for my honesty in making payment as promised.
Can't afford you as in can't afford to have you around too much longer in fear you will mess up the site somehow.Quote: OnceDearLOL. Mike/Zuga couldn't afford me.
Anyhow. Shout out to my team... PM me with your preferences and I'll go with the majority, including my own vote, of course.
Bear in mind that Prozema has pre-declared that he will steal, because he's convinced that other leaders will too.
So, unless something changes, there is no chance of us all going share. That leaves the question 'Are we prepared to all steal, with the intent of denying victory to those who would mess us up by stealing regardless of how much we appeal to the AP instincts.
My personal inclination is to steal, at this time. Not under Mike's influence on this.
If I/we can get Prozema to change his mind are you willing to commit to a share? I didn't see anyone that I think wouldn't be willing to share. I think everyone would be willing to others word for it that they will share. and I think they everyone their commitment.
Yes. That'll be it :o)Quote: AxelWolfCan't afford you as in can't afford to have you around too much longer in fear you will mess up the site somehow.
Quote:If I/we can get Prozema to change his mind are you willing to commit to a share?
I've said I'll place the team vote based on the majority of my team ( including myself) I personally yield $50 if all teams vote share, but I might accept that cost if it gets us all cooperating against Mike. I have a vote of my own and will probably not be trusted to use the team vote to 'share'.
That said, I'm open to persuasion. Whatever makes the game more fun.
Oh..... And Wizard tried to recruit me to the dark side, whatever that means.
Shout out to Joeman. Miplet and Gordonm888.
Please get your preferences to me by 22:00 Sunday to allow for timezone differences and my own commitments, I already have SM777's preference.
Once you say that, everyone thinks you think they are lying and you are going to steal. If they think you are going to steal because you think they will steal then of course they are going to steal. If everyone stopped worrying what others are going to do and just shared there wouldn't be a problem for the most part.Quote: onenickelmiracleI wish just once everyone would vote share. I also realized when others are saying this, that is a lie.
Yes, there are a few people who will steal no matter what, however, I don't think we have that situation this time.
You know GD well that 3 people on your team have a propensity to steal. Too bad you can't think for yourself.Quote: OnceDearYes. That'll be it :o)
I've said I'll place the team vote based on the majority of my team ( including myself) I personally yield $50 if all teams vote share, but I might accept that cost if it gets us all cooperating against Mike. I have a vote of my own and will probably not be trusted to use the team vote to 'share'.
That said, I'm open to persuasion. Whatever makes the game more fun.
Oh..... And Wizard tried to recruit me to the dark side, whatever that means.
Shout out to Joeman. Miplet and Gordonm888.
Please get your preferences to me by 22:00 Sunday to allow for timezone differences and my own commitments, I already have SM777's preference.
In an effort to minimize their take and sine the poolers pool is already over $100 I think all leaders should vote steal and cause the side poolers and non poolers to vote share to get a small scrap from their members on steal teams or nothing and keep their pools and take home to a minimum.
The only way to share is if all 7 leaders are main poolers which I have not seen yet