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Quote: MrVAny idea which TV channels will be carrying live eclipse coverage?
As already said, Science Channel is covering it (from noon to 3 PM Eastern, I think).
Also, ABC has announced an hour of coverage, but it appears to be "after the fact"; in San Francisco, the coverage starts at noon Pacific, which is about 15 minutes after the total eclipse moves over the Atlantic. (It enters Oregon at about 1:15 PM Eastern, and leaves South Carolina at about 2:45.)
More stations may cover it; I am a little surprised CNN hasn't said anything yet, as it is the kind of thing that usually gets "wall-to-wall" coverage.
Quote: MrVAny idea which TV channels will be carrying live eclipse coverage?
CBS news said they would have live coverage. They have already done lots of pieces on it and seem excited about it.
Quote: AyecarumbaCalifornia has issued a request that people refrain from using electricity during the eclipse, and unplug "vampires" (like phone chargers, or other electronics that draw a current, even with nothing plugged into them) to reduce the load on a grid that has come to rely more and more on solar power.
Do they do this on cloudy days too? I thought the electrical grid had lots of batteries to store up power for when consumption is high and supply is low.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI can wait until the 2024 one. Only have to drive a couple hours south for that.
We can meet up in Cleveland
Quote: AyecarumbaCalifornia has issued a request that people refrain from using electricity during the eclipse, and unplug "vampires" (like phone chargers, or other electronics that draw a current, even with nothing plugged into them) to reduce the load on a grid that has come to rely more and more on solar power.
Good thing is not a total eclipse for them?
Quote: WizardDo they do this on cloudy days too? I thought the electrical grid had lots of batteries to store up power for when consumption is high and supply is low.
I thought it would be saved up too, but apparently, it is cheaper to use the solar generated power immediately, than to store it in big, expensive batteries.
On cloudy days, or at night, the grid will bring power from other sources: natural gas, coal, hydroelectric, nuclear, etc. on-line to make up any shortages. These are potentially more expensive and harmful to the environment. There's an article here.
I think it is really a ploy by the power company to pad their bottom line. If they don't have to spend money buying power from other sources, they preserve their profits.
Quote: MrVI'm getting the feeling that the hysteria about the eclipse will prove to be misplaced, the same as was the Y2K hysteria.
The Y2K hysteria may have been misplaced. Clearly, folks spouting stuff like, "Get yer'self 6 months food and lotsa shotgun shells" were way off base. I had a "Y2K and You" weekly radio program, and there was no shortage of those folks. I expected something like a hurricane, where "stuff" was broken for a few days. But, once the engineers saw what wasn't working, it would (probably) be fixed quickly.
But, as someone very involved in Florida's state-government Y2K remediation, I can report we drove the bus very, VERY close to the cliff on that one. I had a ring-side seat watching how the Florida court system almost crashed big time. And, I was a featured Y2K presenter at conferences here and abroad where I learned many other states (and countries) were placing band-aids on broken bones as fast as they could find them. From my perspective, Y2K was one of the greatest technological accomplishments I saw in my 50-year professional career.
Of course, for those sitting in the back of the bus, nothing happened. So, what was all the fuss about? Yup. We dodged that bullet. So, it musta been nothing, right?
Quote: AyecarumbaI thought it would be saved up too, but apparently, it is cheaper to use the solar generated power immediately, than to store it in big, expensive batteries.
I saw on a documentary that California actually pays Arizona to takes some of its power when it generates more than it can both use and store. With the boom in solar power, this happens frequently on sunny days.
Quote: odiousgambitGood thing is not a total eclipse for them?
I think it will be but hard to tell from this map:
At this point I plan to catch it in Texas, due to both its proximity and chances of clear skies.
That one will last about twice as long as the one this Monday. Maximum duration of 4 minutes, 28 seconds.
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(1) I have just received confirmation from rdw4potus that he and his wife will be joining us there.
(2) Odiousgambit has suggested that we make group dinner reservations for Sunday evening. We can probably make those reservations on Sunday afternoon, but advance planning might be better. We will need to get a count of attendees and an agreement on preferred time and destination. Although there are both higher-end and lower-end establishments available, as a compromise between those extremes, my wife and I often choose to have at least one dinner at the Brio Tuscan Grill, located two floors above the main casino, close to the poker room. I am flexible to consider other options.
(3) My wife and I expect to arrive in Cherokee around noon on Sunday and will likely have a cheap lunch either at a fast-food place in town or at the food court at Harrah's. I might call our hotel (Comfort Suites) to see whether we can check in earlier than the 3 pm specified on the reservation confirmation, but otherwise my plan is to be somewhere around a crap table (at the lowest minimum they are offering) for a fair amount of the afternoon.
(4) If we can't work out things in advance, we should try to agree on dinner plans as early in the afternoon as we can. By dinner time, we should have a fair idea of what kind of weather (and maybe even what kind of crowds) to expect on Monday. Then we can make final decisions on our target viewing spot. Andrews was my initial suggestion, since it is directly on the line of maximum totality, but the parking lot at the Cherokee Valley River Casino (13 miles farther away, between Andrews and Murphy but closer to Murphy) has also been suggested. That would assure us of access to bathrooms while we wait and at least the lower-tier restaurants that they have at that facility. Also, just in case there is a downpour from 2 to 3pm, there will be some other entertainment available. (Current forecasts are not encouraging for good visibility of the eclipse.)
(5) For those of us who will begin and end Monday in Cherokee, it has been suggested that we could carpool to the viewing location, both to reduce our impact on traffic and to add to the camaraderie. We can work that stuff out on Sunday evening also.
(6) I think several/most/all of those planning to be part of our group already have my cell phone number. If you don't have it, want it, and will be part of that group, send me a PM, and I will share it with you.
Good.Quote: Doc(1) I have just received confirmation from rdw4potus that he and his wife will be joining us there.
Brio Tuscan Grill sounds fine to me. A vote and a head-count soon for restaurant interest would be good.Quote:(2) group dinner reservations for Sunday evening.
Good, I can tell my wife I need to be there for more planning!Quote:(3) my plan is to be somewhere around a crap table (at the lowest minimum they are offering) for a fair amount of the afternoon.
I'll repeat that this gets my vote. I no longer think a Walmart lot or whatever is a good idea for me and the missus.Quote:(4) the parking lot at the Cherokee Valley River Casino
If it seems crazy on sunday, we may not want to try to get together for the eclipse. That'll be a decision to make. Otherwise I'm game for car-pooling.Quote:(5) For those of us who will begin and end Monday in Cherokee, it has been suggested that we could carpool to the viewing location, both to reduce our impact on traffic and to add to the camaraderie. We can work that stuff out on Sunday evening also.
Likewise.Quote:(6) I think several/most/all of those planning to be part of our group already have my cell phone number. If you don't have it, want it, and will be part of that group, send me a PM, and I will share it with you.
ocean in Lincoln City, Oregon, and the eclipse travels from west to east, sweeping across the country.
Not that it matters worth a fig, but bragging rights are bragging rights.
Quote: MrVI'm thinking that I'll be the first forum member to see the eclipse unfold, as my vantage point will be a stone's throw from the Pacific
ocean in Lincoln City, Oregon, and the eclipse travels from west to east, sweeping across the country.
Do you get credit for seeing it first if its cloudy there and clear in eastern Oregon?
Quote: DocMy wife and I expect to arrive in Cherokee around noon on Sunday
Er, what time do you plan on leaving? I am still convinced that pretty much every road leading into any part of the path of totality is going to be mobbed for hours in advance.
OOPS - noon Sunday, you say? Never mind...
Quote: WizardDo you get credit for seeing it first if its cloudy there and clear in eastern Oregon?
No, but if it's hazy and I can still see the bulk of it (just not the detail), then I'd say "Yes."
The weather on the Oregon coast is different than inland; typically if it is sunny inland there are often morning clouds / fog at the coast.
The forecoast for Monday is "morning fog."
Oh well, it's a gamble: hope I don't "seven out."
Quote: rsactuaryA client of mine is heading to Bend Oregon to watch and he has heard recommendations that people should find a place to park the day before and sleep in their car for the night because traffic backups may be up to 8 hours!!!!
I fear the worst for the people on the east coast. I would indeed car camp it the night before wherever you want to watch it, if I were planning to watch it anywhere on the east coast.
As for me, Huntington Oregon is a sparsely populated area with the best weather conditions on the path, but I'm worried that everybody on the west cost will be thinking exactly how I am and all converging on eastern Oregon.
Quote: billryanWhat percent of Vegas gamblers and tourists do you think will pause for this?
0.1%.
A better question would be the same but of a casino on the totality path. The sun will be only 80% covered, at most, in Vegas.
Quote: billryanIt's still an event that rarely happens.
In Vegas, it's a partial eclipse, and you usually get at least one of those a year during daylight hours.
I'm staying out of it.
Quote: WizardI fear the worst for the people on the east coast.
Wiz,
Time Magazine has a story about traffic congestion associated with the eclipse. It includes detailed write-ups of four states: Oregon, Nebraska, Tennessee, and South Carolina:
Brace for a Traffic Nightmare
For example, Oregon highways usually have "tens of thousands" of cars traveling on them at any given time. But, up to one million are anticipated trying to drive to a good viewing location on eclipse day.
Required reading for folks planning to drive "from here to there" on eclipse day.
Quote: LuckyPhowWiz,
Time Magazine has a story about traffic congestion associated with the eclipse. It includes detailed write-ups of four states: Oregon, Nebraska, Tennessee, and South Carolina:
Just read that. I'm considering taking the back roads and watching it on the Idaho side of the Snake River. However, if I'm thinking that, I worry that everyone else in south-west Idaho is thinking that too.
Isn't there a term of this -- Trying to outwit the masses but end up following them because they were trying to do the same thing. Often whenever I know there is an accident ahead of me on the highway I'll contact elaborate routes to get around it but in the end these routes are also packed and I estimate I would have saved both time and aggravation had I just stuck with plan A and stayed on the highway.
So, I may be guilty of TUI - Totality under the Influence.
Super 8: $710
Quality Inn: $995
If anyone pays these prices, it has got to set some kind of record.
If that isn't ridiculous, I put in Casper WY, which is right in the totality path:
Sterling Hotel (2 stars): $2100
Baymont Inn and Suites (2 stars): $2200
1st Interstate Motel (2 stars): $2500
Quote: WizardJust for laughs, I put in a search for a hotel room in Rexburg ID for Sunday night. The only two vacancies were:
Super 8: $710
Quality Inn: $995
If anyone pays these prices, it has got to set some kind of record.
If that isn't ridiculous, I put in Casper WY, which is right in the totality path:
Sterling Hotel (2 stars): $2100
Baymont Inn and Suites (2 stars): $2200
1st Interstate Motel (2 stars): $2500
There's a big astronomical society convention in Casper. I am not surprised prices are so high. I wonder how much the spot in a field to pitch a tent is going for? It was $200 a night two months ago.
I have an extra room available in our Lincoln City, Oregon house from Sat til Tues.
Let the bidding begin.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHopefully by the big day, I won't have to keep explaining how the sun will not hit the moon to my middle aged sister. I keep wondering how she isn't legally retarded.
well, we'll all have a funny look on our faces if does happen!
it is funnier thinking the light from the moon takes 1 second to reach us, the sun 8 minutes, so the eclipse happened 7 minutes and 59 seconds before it is seen.Quote: odiousgambitwell, we'll all have a funny look on our faces if does happen!
Anyway, I'm heading out tomorrow on our trip down to Southern Illinois. The top weatherman in Chicago (Tom Skilling) says the latest prediction was 32% cloud cover for Monday in Carbondale, IL. That's as good as I could ask for, I hope we get it.
I'm not sure if I'll be on this forum much after today, so good luck to everyone who is traveling.
Wizard, thanks for everything. Because of you I was ready for this, and had booked my rooms, and bought my glasses well in advance.
Have fun everyone!
Quote: onenickelmiracleit is funnier thinking the light from the moon takes 1 second to reach us, the sun 8 minutes, so the eclipse happened 7 minutes and 59 seconds before it is seen.
Not really
Quote: WizardJust for laughs, I put in a search for a hotel room
I did a search for hotel rooms in Murphy, NC, using Hotels.com and it showed Cherokee Valley River Casino with rooms between $449 and $499 a night. It reported 113 other lodging establishments were "not available" during my travel dates (Sun & Mon nights).
All times Eastern
Science Channel - noon to 3:00
NASA - noon to 4:00
C-SPAN will simulcast the NASA channel coverage
Discovery Channel - "about" 10:15 - 10:20
ABC - supposedly, 1:00 - 4:00, but the listings vary from station to station
NBC - again, "supposedly" 1:00 - 2:00
Quote: onenickelmiracleHopefully by the big day, I won't have to keep explaining how the sun will not hit the moon to my middle aged sister. I keep wondering how she isn't legally retarded.
Don't be too hard on her. I would bet most American adults couldn't put in order of the distance from earth among the moon, sun, and stars.
Possible future waitress trivia bet.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/why-total-solar-eclipses-will-end-2017-6
Quote: WizardDon't be too hard on her. I would bet most American adults couldn't put in order of the distance from earth among the moon, sun, and stars.
Possible future waitress trivia bet.
Doesn't it depend on the time of day?
Total solar eclipse 2017: 6 bizarre things that will happen
I too have been anticipating this eclipse for a while, mostly thanks to the Wizard's hyping of it in years past. Being in Ohio, I had a couple options. Of course, the first thing I did is check which casinos were located within the totality, and if I could get comped rooms there. I checked Harrah's Metropolis and Harrah's Cherokee, and of course the rates were sky-high. So that was out. A friend in Columbia, South Carolina made a very generous offer for me to stay at his house during eclipse time. This was tempting, since South Carolina is one of the few states I haven't been too. Concurrently, I booked a cheap hotel room in Louisville, Kentucky in case I needed a back-up plan -- Louisville is within two hours drive of the centerpoint of totality, with very good highway access.
In the end, though, I arranged something with my business partner where we will fly to Memphis, TN on Friday to meet up with another friend, with whom we can stay for free. On Monday, August 21, I reserved an SUV for $56 to take seven people from Memphis to Cape Girardeau, MO where we can see 1m48s of totality. All the driving is along I-55 so I don't anticipate traffic jams (hopefully!) Also, there are a bunch of events going on in Cape during eclipse time. And there is a casino there!
The only crapshoot is weather, of course. I'm praying for no clouds, though it looks like we will have to sweat it a bit. Very excited!
For anybody still looking to make a trip, I would suggest flying into a big city like Denver or St. Louis where flights, rental cars, and hotels are still fairly reasonable (they're expensive, but not *insanely* expensive). Don't fly into Nashville or Boise.
One of the folks at my office showed me a video an acquaintance who lives in Prineville, Oregon sent to her, taken earlier today (Thursday).
Cars and RV's were stacked up bumper to bumper, for miles, on a major highway there.
By report bold squatters are occupying whatever land looks available.
Fred Meyer in Prineville is out of gas, and the shelves are emptying.
Whoa, I may want to revise our travel plans and head for the Oregon coast Friday night, not Saturday.
Oh, the humanity!
Quote: MrVOh, the humanity!
omg, on a Thursday? this does not bode well