The pilot dies mid-flight -- Do you try to land the plane yourself?
October 8th, 2015 at 7:09:52 PM
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Attempting to do something you think you can but really can't will only hurt you.
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October 8th, 2015 at 8:05:09 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesAsk yourself this...if you sit in a cockpit and no clue how to fly, would you still "try" to fly?
Darn tootin' I would. What is the alternative?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 8th, 2015 at 8:21:59 PM
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Maybe It has autopilot and you could mess it up by trying.Quote: WizardDarn tootin' I would. What is the alternative?
If you can have influence on dice and you don't know what you're doing it may have the opposite affect. So trying could actually hurt you.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2015 at 8:32:49 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfMaybe It has autopilot and you could mess it up by trying.
I never heard of autopilot landing a plane. One more post on this topic and I'll have to split it off and let our aviation expert BBB set us straight.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 8th, 2015 at 8:42:26 PM
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Hmm. I was under the impression in very bad weather conditions they used some system for landing. Probably on bigger aircraft's. You're probably better off looking for someone who plays video games.Quote: WizardI never heard of autopilot landing a plane. One more post on this topic and I'll have to split it off and let our aviation expert BBB set us straight.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2015 at 9:33:31 PM
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Only in low visibility on commercial airlines. Military jets do not have this auto land system. Hearsay is it lands harder than a pilot could ease down but works fine.
October 8th, 2015 at 10:36:24 PM
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Quote: WizardDarn tootin' I would. What is the alternative?
You fly the plane once and to your surprise -- you can do it! So you decide to keep doing it.
But in reality, you don't know what you're doing, and really just getting lucky when you're flying.
Try to control the dice and you have long(er) rolls. Now you have this idea that it works. So you keep playing and playing....but in reality, you were just getting lucky off the bat. As you continue to play, you're really not even influencing the dice, and of course, losing. But your mind is already made up that it works and it's just bad luck / variance that you're losing.
This does not help you.
October 9th, 2015 at 12:56:37 AM
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 9th, 2015 at 1:00:34 AM
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The renamed thread title is misleading, since (I believe) IBYA's point wasn't about if a pilot dies mid-flight, but rather, would you attempt to do something stupid because Alan M says "it can't hurt".
October 9th, 2015 at 6:46:30 AM
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Yes. There are commercial jetliners that can land themselves.
In particular the L1011 was computer controlled to do this.
When I was with WTVJ in Miami I went along on a mercy flight to Ethiopia. I raised the money for the flights with my news reports and got to take a crew with me. I was one of the first reporters there to cover the famine.
I digress.
I got to "fly" the L1011 but it was auto pilot, of course.
On the way back from Ethiopia -- because the Ethiopians didn't have the fuel they promised -- we had to make an emergency landing in Cairo. The Eastern pilots wanted to bring the plane in themselves and not use the computer controls. But they had never landed in Cairo before. So they weren't exactly following the orders of the air traffic controllers and the Egyptians were yelling "you must follow what I say!"
It got worse. The Egyptians never saw an Eastern Airlines plane before so we were met by tanks and armed soldiers. Of course there was no problem in the end. They gave us fuel, took our suitcase of cash to pay for it (no credit cards) and we posed for photos with the soldiers and we're on our way.
But yes... the jumbo jet could have landed itself but the pilots wanted to say they did it.
In particular the L1011 was computer controlled to do this.
When I was with WTVJ in Miami I went along on a mercy flight to Ethiopia. I raised the money for the flights with my news reports and got to take a crew with me. I was one of the first reporters there to cover the famine.
I digress.
I got to "fly" the L1011 but it was auto pilot, of course.
On the way back from Ethiopia -- because the Ethiopians didn't have the fuel they promised -- we had to make an emergency landing in Cairo. The Eastern pilots wanted to bring the plane in themselves and not use the computer controls. But they had never landed in Cairo before. So they weren't exactly following the orders of the air traffic controllers and the Egyptians were yelling "you must follow what I say!"
It got worse. The Egyptians never saw an Eastern Airlines plane before so we were met by tanks and armed soldiers. Of course there was no problem in the end. They gave us fuel, took our suitcase of cash to pay for it (no credit cards) and we posed for photos with the soldiers and we're on our way.
But yes... the jumbo jet could have landed itself but the pilots wanted to say they did it.
October 9th, 2015 at 6:49:06 AM
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Quote: RSThe renamed thread title is misleading, since (I believe) IBYA's point wasn't about if a pilot dies mid-flight, but rather, would you attempt to do something stupid because Alan M says "it can't hurt".
If craps is a random game and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt.
October 9th, 2015 at 7:03:07 AM
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I would honestly volunteer to land the plane so long as no one else had any flight credentials.
I'm very good at remaining cool in high pressure situations (yes even life and death when I've previously had a gun pulled on me). I also have 20/10 vision and very good eye/hand coordination/reflexes (nerd accolade - I was one of the top 3 Halo players in the world during the biggest bubble of the game in Halo 2, according to MLG not 'I beat my friends'). I did also play flight simulator games, but that was in my early teens.
In the end, if I have someone from the control tower in my ear I'd be very confident I could land the plane.
I'm very good at remaining cool in high pressure situations (yes even life and death when I've previously had a gun pulled on me). I also have 20/10 vision and very good eye/hand coordination/reflexes (nerd accolade - I was one of the top 3 Halo players in the world during the biggest bubble of the game in Halo 2, according to MLG not 'I beat my friends'). I did also play flight simulator games, but that was in my early teens.
In the end, if I have someone from the control tower in my ear I'd be very confident I could land the plane.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
October 9th, 2015 at 7:05:38 AM
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Here, from Lockheed Martin about the L1011:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/100years/stories/l-1011.html
"and the L-1011 would fly and land on its own, descending smoothly onto the runway by locking in to an airport’s radio beacons."
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/100years/stories/l-1011.html
"and the L-1011 would fly and land on its own, descending smoothly onto the runway by locking in to an airport’s radio beacons."
October 9th, 2015 at 7:26:02 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonIf craps is a random game and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt.
You don't like reading many people's posts, do you? You keep regurgitating the same nonsense without actually responding to what people have written.
October 9th, 2015 at 7:57:11 AM
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Quote: Romes
In the end, if I have someone from the control tower in my ear I'd be very confident I could land the plane.
I feel the same way as you do.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 9th, 2015 at 8:09:11 AM
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Quote: RSYou don't like reading many people's posts, do you? You keep regurgitating the same nonsense without actually responding to what people have written.
What you have written is nonsense.
If craps is a random game, and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt... anything except your ego.
There is no harm in trying. The game is designed to let you try. It is the only game in the casino where you, the player, control the outcome because there are no shuffled cards and no RNG to get in the way. You, the shooter, and only you -- the shooter -- determine the outcome of the game.
The only difference between what you write here on this forum and what you write on my forum is that on my forum I tolerate your personal insults. Just try it here where the administrative rules are not as lenient.
October 9th, 2015 at 8:48:53 AM
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Modern airliners can autoland when equipped to do so, and when the airport is also equipped.
When the visibility is low enough, the option is either auto-land or you aren't landing there (legally).
If the pilots died, and you figured out how to get onto the radio, they could get someone to step you through the programming of the computer for a landing.
The Mythbusters guys tried landing a simulator with a manual landing. They didn't do so well.
When the visibility is low enough, the option is either auto-land or you aren't landing there (legally).
If the pilots died, and you figured out how to get onto the radio, they could get someone to step you through the programming of the computer for a landing.
The Mythbusters guys tried landing a simulator with a manual landing. They didn't do so well.
October 9th, 2015 at 9:31:31 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonWhat you have written is nonsense.
If craps is a random game, and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt... anything except your ego.
There is no harm in trying. The game is designed to let you try. It is the only game in the casino where you, the player, control the outcome because there are no shuffled cards and no RNG to get in the way. You, the shooter, and only you -- the shooter -- determine the outcome of the game.
The only difference between what you write here on this forum and what you write on my forum is that on my forum I tolerate your personal insults. Just try it here where the administrative rules are not as lenient.
Re-read the posts in the other thread, re: "how attempting DI can hurt you" in your ATS thread.
October 9th, 2015 at 9:35:15 AM
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Quote: RSRe-read the posts in the other thread, re: "how attempting DI can hurt you" in your ATS thread.
Yeah I read it. Now read mine again.
October 9th, 2015 at 10:34:43 AM
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Probably not, it may actually help slow down the game and you lose less money. However, if you're attempting DI and doing it how you should, oftentimes you don't hit the back wall. This allows for them to freeroll you on a no roll when you hit and allow it to stand when you don't. It only takes 1 time for them to do that to hurt you. Therefore tying to influence the dice could hurt you.Quote: AlanMendelsonIf craps is a random game and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 9th, 2015 at 11:57:50 AM
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I'd definitely give it a try. Of course everyone would have to step aside if the plane was equipped with an "Otto Pilot"
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October 9th, 2015 at 12:01:42 PM
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Why not try "landing" the plane in water? Wouldnt that be safer if you don't know wtf you're doing?
October 9th, 2015 at 12:23:28 PM
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I've watched a few crashes where the plane lands fairly level -- something I might be able to do. But on the other hand the crashes I'm thinking of, the planes upon landing also spun, or flipped and then tumbled and then caught on fire. I guess that's still better than diving into the ground directly where there is no chance at all.
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October 9th, 2015 at 12:50:34 PM
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I would think this depends on your speed/etc all the same. If you hit the water going fast enough it'll be the same as hitting cement and it'll tear right through the plane.Quote: rudeboyoiWhy not try "landing" the plane in water? Wouldnt that be safer if you don't know wtf you're doing?
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October 9th, 2015 at 1:46:33 PM
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Quote: RomesI would think this depends on your speed/etc all the same. If you hit the water going fast enough it'll be the same as hitting cement and it'll tear right through the plane.
This is correct. If the pilot was oblivious as to how to land a plane, landing on water may be a worse decision. In the event of a crash landing that results in injury and hazards such as fire, you now have the added benefit of having a potentially sinking fuselage and the possibility of drowning.
The displacement of water caused by sinking airplanes or ships fascinates me.
This feeling is heavy, makes my body ache and I'm ready;
To fall into the sky and I see now, the reason why.
My heart is heavy, takes me to a place I can't breathe.
Only then I know why I see the warning sign.
October 9th, 2015 at 2:27:09 PM
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I'd start booking bets on whether or not I can land the plane with the passengers.
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October 9th, 2015 at 2:47:00 PM
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And this looks like more fun than I ever hope to have. It's the last item on my bucket list.
http://www.wikihow.com/Land-a-Helicopter-After-Your-Pilot-Has-Been-Killed
http://www.wikihow.com/Land-a-Helicopter-After-Your-Pilot-Has-Been-Killed
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October 9th, 2015 at 3:55:22 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonWhat you have written is nonsense.
If craps is a random game, and if the rules allow it, trying to influence the dice cannot hurt... anything except your ego.
There is no harm in trying. The game is designed to let you try. It is the only game in the casino where you, the player, control the outcome because there are no shuffled cards and no RNG to get in the way. You, the shooter, and only you -- the shooter -- determine the outcome of the game.
There's no harm in trying if you always fail. If you succeed in influencing the dice, and you influence them such that your house edge goes *up,* then that hurts. Plain and simple.
Don't think that's possible? Let's suppose you're a place 6/8 bettor and you decreased the chance of 7 to 1 in 7. That's good, right? Not necessarily: what if you also decreased the chance of 6 and 8 to 1 in 10 without noticing. In that scenario, your edge on the place 6 and 8 bets would be far worse than under random throwing.
In fact, how do you know that your own throwing isn't doing exactly that? You've already said you have trouble hitting 6s and 8s...
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October 9th, 2015 at 4:15:54 PM
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Quote: RomesI would think this depends on your speed/etc all the same. If you hit the water going fast enough it'll be the same as hitting cement and it'll tear right through the plane.
Maybe you can decrease your altitude to a few hundred feet then just shut the engines off and hope you glide into the water without too much force.
October 9th, 2015 at 4:38:13 PM
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Quote: rudeboyoiMaybe you can decrease your altitude to a few hundred feet then just shut the engines off and hope you glide into the water without too much force.
Landing safely on water takes much more precision than on a runway. If one of the engines hits the water a fraction of a second before the other, the plane will spin around or roll over and you're done. If the nose is up too high, you'll strike the tail and possible tear it off. That will sink you real quick. If the nose is too low the plane could dive under the surface. Come in too fast and rip the plane apart when it hits the water. Stall too early (by coming in too slow) and you free fall into the water.
Landing on a runway with gear deployed is a much more forgiving option. You can make several practice runs to learn how to line up with the runway, assuming you have the fuel. Landing gear can take a surprising amount of force, so a hard landing might not be catastrophic as long as the wings are level. The ATC will guide you on what speed to fly, when to lower your flaps/gear, proper sink rate, etc. If all else fails and you touch down badly, you can always jam the throttle and go around again.
I can't claim to be a pilot, although I have taken the controls of small aircraft for short times in the past. I played countless hours of MS Flight Sim when I was growing up. A while back I got the opportunity to fly one of those full-scale moving professional jet sims and landed it with no control input from the instructor.
All that to say that I would be more competent than the average person in this situation, although I am by no means an experienced pilot. I at least know what most of the important gauges and switches do in an airliner cockpit.
October 9th, 2015 at 5:35:30 PM
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Sounds like most of you have a good grasp of the options.
Most but not all commercial airliners have some form of autoland available. It takes a fair amount of training and skill to use it properly, and the pilots have to execute one periodically no matter the weather in order to stay certified to do it. I've been in the jump seat for a CAT III autoland in real WOXOF (white-out) conditions, and it's a very hard thing to endure (even scary), but in good weather, it's pretty routine.
Most private planes do not have that landing system installed. I have never seen an autoland-capable aircraft flown by a non-pilot in emergency, so I don't know if they would try to instruct them on setting up the autoland, or talk them through flying it by hand, but I suspect it would be the fly-by-hand. I do think they'd have the person tune in the radio/GPS landing system and have the airplane track it in all 3 dimensions, but once they saw the runway and were about to touch down, they'd tell them how to finish up as they landed. I could be wrong.
ATC has talked a non-pilot down many times, though it happened much more often 30 years ago IMO than it has the last decade or so. I would guess it's been successful the majority of times, but not always. I did it 3 times in my career, all early on, all small aircraft, and I was very fortunate that all landed safely (one I started, and we found a pilot who knew that aircraft better and relayed his instructions - mentioned just to not exaggerate my role). Two others I had and turned over to a more experienced controller; they were both twin-engine, which I am not trained for. Not all of us are pilots (by a long shot) and can't in good conscience try it without the training, though any of us will try whatever we can to help. But we know who among us do have the licenses, and we also have resources in local pilots and commercial operations we sometimes call who can do it. If at all possible, we locate a person certified on that particular aircraft.
Water landings are much more hazardous for the reasons mentioned above. One of the best options is the beach, though, right at the water line, with few fences or power lines to avoid, if you don't see a runway. Runways are the best for many reasons, mostly to do with obstructions. I did work with one supervisor who tried to guide a guy down on the beaches near Charleston, and the guy lost the airplane and died, so it can end in tragedy, but there have also been many saves.
Most but not all commercial airliners have some form of autoland available. It takes a fair amount of training and skill to use it properly, and the pilots have to execute one periodically no matter the weather in order to stay certified to do it. I've been in the jump seat for a CAT III autoland in real WOXOF (white-out) conditions, and it's a very hard thing to endure (even scary), but in good weather, it's pretty routine.
Most private planes do not have that landing system installed. I have never seen an autoland-capable aircraft flown by a non-pilot in emergency, so I don't know if they would try to instruct them on setting up the autoland, or talk them through flying it by hand, but I suspect it would be the fly-by-hand. I do think they'd have the person tune in the radio/GPS landing system and have the airplane track it in all 3 dimensions, but once they saw the runway and were about to touch down, they'd tell them how to finish up as they landed. I could be wrong.
ATC has talked a non-pilot down many times, though it happened much more often 30 years ago IMO than it has the last decade or so. I would guess it's been successful the majority of times, but not always. I did it 3 times in my career, all early on, all small aircraft, and I was very fortunate that all landed safely (one I started, and we found a pilot who knew that aircraft better and relayed his instructions - mentioned just to not exaggerate my role). Two others I had and turned over to a more experienced controller; they were both twin-engine, which I am not trained for. Not all of us are pilots (by a long shot) and can't in good conscience try it without the training, though any of us will try whatever we can to help. But we know who among us do have the licenses, and we also have resources in local pilots and commercial operations we sometimes call who can do it. If at all possible, we locate a person certified on that particular aircraft.
Water landings are much more hazardous for the reasons mentioned above. One of the best options is the beach, though, right at the water line, with few fences or power lines to avoid, if you don't see a runway. Runways are the best for many reasons, mostly to do with obstructions. I did work with one supervisor who tried to guide a guy down on the beaches near Charleston, and the guy lost the airplane and died, so it can end in tragedy, but there have also been many saves.
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October 9th, 2015 at 6:07:04 PM
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Ding, ding, ding!!!Quote: Romes... if I have someone from the control tower in my ear I'd be very confident I could land the plane.
Mythbusters did a show on this using simulators. With no training, the guys couldn't even fly, much less land. But with a pilot in their ear, they landed very smoothly, without problems.
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October 9th, 2015 at 6:23:02 PM
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Quote: rudeboyoiMaybe you can decrease your altitude to a few hundred feet then just shut the engines off and hope you glide into the water without too much force.
Assuming a commercial liner, most require a speed of about 140kts to take off, and that's with everything working. Lose the flaps and it's worse.
A person free falling has a terminal speed of about 120mph. That plane is doing 160. There's no such thing as "without too much force". Things are gonna break.
That being said, I could pull it off. If a pilot is gonna die, I hope the 1st Officer panics and faints and that it's on my flight.
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October 9th, 2015 at 7:10:21 PM
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Quote: FaceA person free falling has a terminal speed of about 120mph. That plane is doing 160. There's no such thing as "without too much force". Things are gonna break.
Hmm, what if you exited the plane a few feet over water at that speed. Could you skip-a-long like a stone and survive?
I'm obviously not trying to save the plane, just survive.
EDIT - just looked up barefoot waterskiing record -- around 130mph.
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October 9th, 2015 at 7:19:30 PM
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Quote: rxwineHmm, what if you exited the plane a few feet over water at that speed. Could you skip-a-long like a stone and survive?
I'm obviously not trying to save the plane, just survive.
EDIT - just looked up barefoot waterskiing record -- around 130mph.
https://youtu.be/yDq42VIYVnc
October 9th, 2015 at 7:38:55 PM
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I guess the next question is if you've never flown a plane before but no one else has stepped up either, do you lie and say you have if you're confident you can do it or tell the truth that you think you can do it because you're really good at video games or whatever?
October 9th, 2015 at 9:38:54 PM
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This scenario sounds very familiar. Was it part of the plot of a recent tv show or movie?Quote: rudeboyoiI guess the next question is if you've never flown a plane before but no one else has stepped up either, do you lie and say you have if you're confident you can do it or tell the truth that you think you can do it because you're really good at video games or whatever?
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October 9th, 2015 at 10:10:07 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaThis scenario sounds very familiar. Was it part of the plot of a recent tv show or movie?
The only thing that remotely pops in my head is the movie flight of the phoenix.
where there's a plane crash and a guy that builds toy planes lies and says he builds real planes and they build a plane out of the wreckage.
October 10th, 2015 at 7:12:24 AM
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I just hope I am near Edwards Air Force base or Denver International so I have runways over 15,000 feet.
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October 10th, 2015 at 9:17:29 AM
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Apparently, that guy never saw Gilligan's Island. He never knew that the professor could make a radio out of a coconut, but couldn't fix the hole in the damn boat!Quote: rudeboyoiThe only thing that remotely pops in my head is the movie flight of the phoenix.
where there's a plane crash and a guy that builds toy planes lies and says he builds real planes and they build a plane out of the wreckage.
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October 10th, 2015 at 11:01:50 AM
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Quote: rudeboyoiThe only thing that remotely pops in my head is the movie flight of the phoenix.
where there's a plane crash and a guy that builds toy planes lies and says he builds real planes and they build a plane out of the wreckage.
The one I am thinking of had a black guy who was really good at a flight simulator game on his computer, but everyone thought he had real pilot skills... Hmm, I'll have to do some searching.
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October 10th, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: rudeboyoiThe only thing that remotely pops in my head is the movie flight of the phoenix.
where there's a plane crash and a guy that builds toy planes lies and says he builds real planes and they build a plane out of the wreckage.
The one I am thinking of had a black guy who was really good at a flight simulator game on his computer, but everyone thought he had real pilot skills... Hmm, I'll have to do some searching.
This is not as far-fetched as it seems. Not to scare the hell out of you, but it's now possible (and has been for at least 10 years) for a new pilot to get all his licenses, up to and including his air carrier certs, on a sim, and the first time he ever steps onto an actual jetliner, he's got paying pax in the back.
Don't know who else that freaks out, but it does me. Doesn't seem to have been a factor in any aviation accidents since inception, though, so I'm probably wrong to worry about it. :)
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October 10th, 2015 at 3:48:57 PM
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Ah ha! The movie was "Snakes on a Plane"Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: rudeboyoiThe only thing that remotely pops in my head is the movie flight of the phoenix.
where there's a plane crash and a guy that builds toy planes lies and says he builds real planes and they build a plane out of the wreckage.
The one I am thinking of had a black guy who was really good at a flight simulator game on his computer, but everyone thought he had real pilot skills... Hmm, I'll have to do some searching.
Here is a list of some other movies where passengers land planes
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October 10th, 2015 at 4:20:12 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearApparently, that guy never saw Gilligan's Island. He never knew that the professor could make a radio out of a coconut, but couldn't fix the hole in the damn boat!
The professor never made a radio out of a coconut. They had a perfectly functioning radio on the boat. He did figure out how to recharge the batteries (on that exercise bike, I think).
He attempted to fix the hole but Gilligan messed up the proportion of water making the glue and the whole boat flew apart on the beach as they were preparing to leave.
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October 10th, 2015 at 5:00:00 PM
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Quote: DRichI just hope I am near Edwards Air Force base or Denver International so I have runways over 15,000 feet.
On the flip side don't try to land here only 400m (1312 ft for people who speak american)
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October 10th, 2015 at 6:03:04 PM
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This thread has nothing to do with my original post and not what I meant in the original thread either.
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October 10th, 2015 at 6:15:48 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesThis thread has nothing to do with my original post and not what I meant in the original thread either.
That's the whole point of the thread, is it not? From my understanding, it was an analogy that was turned into a hypothetical question.
In the original thread it stemmed from, it was already running on a tangent from the replies, prompting a spin-off thread.
Are you unhappy about the discussion that the thread caused? I thought that was the whole point of a message board.
This feeling is heavy, makes my body ache and I'm ready;
To fall into the sky and I see now, the reason why.
My heart is heavy, takes me to a place I can't breathe.
Only then I know why I see the warning sign.
October 10th, 2015 at 6:24:44 PM
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Quote: DodsferdThat's the whole point of the thread, is it not? From my understanding, it was an analogy that was turned into a hypothetical question.
In the original thread it stemmed from, it was already running on a tangent from the replies, prompting a spin-off thread.
Are you unhappy about the discussion that the thread caused? I thought that was the whole point of a message board.
I'm not unhappy at all. I just wanted to point out this thread had absolutely nothing to do with my original post.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 10th, 2015 at 6:42:02 PM
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Um, I stand corrected.Quote: WizardThe professor never made a radio out of a coconut. That had a perfectly functioning radio on the boat. He did figure out how to recharge the batteries (on that exercise bike, I think).Quote: DJTeddyBearApparently, that guy never saw Gilligan's Island. He never knew that the professor could make a radio out of a coconut, but couldn't fix the hole in the damn boat!
He attempted to fix the hole but Gilligan messed up the proportion of water making the glue and the whole boat flew apart on the beach as they were preparing to leave.
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October 10th, 2015 at 8:12:09 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearUm, I stand corrected.
Yes, you do. Thou shalt not misquote Gilligan's Island around me. Your punishment will be to drink one cup of coconut milk.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
