Golden Balls -- Game 2
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:39:26 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge.
I blame my alcoholism.
For the curious, I was playing with a coin flip (or a virtual simulation) just to experiment.
AAE had told me in our first matchup he was going with the coin flip method, and when we met again, we chatted but he never confirmed a "share" so I thought the flip must have went sour on me and he wasn't going to respond.
Believe me I know the issues of a combination of the weekend, drunkeness, and golden balls vs 2.0.
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:04:50 PM
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Quote: WizardThink about your choices carefully.
Or Not.
Just Share and Share alike. Easy.
While the last thing I would want to do is
"Stick it to the Wiz", isn't the ONLY WAY for the
Wiz to pocket some of the cash he has
so graciously dangle out there for us, is for
a pair of people to both say STEAL ?
(Or for some people to drop out of the
game ?).
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:30:04 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQOr Not.
Just Share and Share alike. Easy.
While the last thing I would want to do is
"Stick it to the Wiz", isn't the ONLY WAY for the
Wiz to pocket some of the cash he has
so graciously dangle out there for us, is for
a pair of people to both say STEAL ?
(Or for some people to drop out of the
game ?).
Well I am facing MakingBook who knocked me out of the first round of 1.0 when he said he was stealing in every round. Thusfar in 2.0 he has stolen twice, making me nervous. I proposed a share and am awaiting a response.
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:32:28 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQJust Share and Share alike. Easy.
Oh, I agree. However, can you trust the other guy? I might remind everybody there were three steals in round 4 with just a 10% share. This round has a 20% share. Assuming lots of stealing in round 10, round 7 may be the best chance to cash in on a successful steal.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 3rd, 2012 at 7:43:49 PM
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Quote: WizardThis round has a 20% share. Assuming lots of stealing in round 10, round 7 may be the best chance to cash in on a successful steal.
Great observation, Wiz!
I think that a major part of any winning strategy for this game involves a successful steal in either Round Seven or Round Ten, or perhaps even two successful shares. I would say that there is still time for arrangements to be made for Round Ten, but the best chance of winning is obviously going to come from doing a successful combination of Share/Share, Steal/Steal or Share/Steal in these two crucial rounds.
Interestingly, Round Ten should be split so few ways that it might be an individual who takes any part of that money to win regardless of what happens in Round Seven.
If it were me, I would PM everyone except my Round 7 opponent offering to Share in the final round regardless of what else happens, and then try to convince my opponent to Share in Round 7 (And steal from them) and then Steal in Round 10 from someone thinking I would honor the agreement made prior to Round 7.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm actually a very honest person...usually...but lying is the most fundamental aspect of winning this game. If you ain't lyin', you ain't tryin'.
Alternatively, some might decide to Share in this Round hoping that they can either compel someone to mutually share in Round 10...and do so...or to try to compel someone to Share in Round 10 and then Steal from them. That's why the high Share rate in Round 6 isn't much of a surprise.
I'm going to say that we will see much Stealing in this Round, but half (or more) will Share.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
December 3rd, 2012 at 8:10:56 PM
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Quote: Mission146I'm going to say that we will see much Stealing in this Round, but half (or more) will Share.
I predict six steals.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 3rd, 2012 at 8:14:51 PM
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Quote: WizardOh, I agree. However, can you trust the other guy? I might remind everybody there were three steals in round 4 with just a 10% share. This round has a 20% share. Assuming lots of stealing in round 10, round 7 may be the best chance to cash in on a successful steal.
"Spock ! McCoy ! Can't you see what they're trying
to do ? They're turning us against ourselves !
As soon.... as the character... in the Red shirt...
dies... We..... Must..... Fight..... Back !"
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 4th, 2012 at 2:26:21 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUwhVUy2uTo
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 4th, 2012 at 3:06:29 PM
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Quote: WizardI predict six steals.
The hardest part about a punishment steal in this game is that a punishment steal looks exactly like a self-serving steal. I could steal this round, and then claim it was because my opponent stole the round before. In a "bonus" round, this sort of stealing is much harder to carry off for the next rounds. Whereas in a 5% round... yeah i can send a message out and it doesn't look quite as bad.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
December 5th, 2012 at 8:14:53 AM
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Quote: WizardThe 100% sharing in round six restores my faith in humanity. However, will it last long. First, here are the updated box scores:
Player R1 (1x) R2 (1x) R3 (1x) R4 (2x) R5 (1x) R6 (1x) Bank avargov O X O O O O $4.50 Croupier O O O O O O $3.94 Din O O X O O $4.50 dwheatley O O O O O O $4.50 FrGamble O O O O O O $3.94 gameterror O O X O O $4.50 JohnnyQ O O O X O O $5.63 makingbook X O X O O O $3.38 Maverick17 X O O X O $4.50 miplet X O O O O O $2.25 paisiello O X O O O O $3.38 rainman O O O O O O $3.94 SOOPOO O O O O O O $2.81 thecesspit O O O O O $3.38 vendman1 O O O O O $3.38 winmonkeyspit3 O O O O O O $4.50
O = Share
X = Steal
blank = No response
Round 7 match ups.
avargov vs. Maverick17
Croupier vs. miplet
Din vs. paisiello
dwheatley vs. rainman
FrGamble vs. SOOPOO
gameterror vs. thecesspit
JohnnyQ vs. vendman1
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3
Round 7 has a 20% (4x) share, the second highest of the game. Thing about your choices carefully. Plays are due 8:00 AM on Wednesday.
Presenting your Round 7 selections:
GB2 - Round 7
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | Steal | vs. | Maverick17 | Steal |
| Croupier | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| Din | Steal | vs. | paisiello | Share |
| dwheatley | Steal | vs. | rainman | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| gameterror | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| makingbook | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 5th, 2012 at 9:26:51 AM
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Yep....saw that coming....glad I chose to steal!!!
Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." ~ William Gibson
December 5th, 2012 at 12:23:48 PM
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Updated box score through game 7.
Round 8 matchups. 5% share. Plays due 8:00 AM on Friday.
gameterror vs. thecesspit
Din vs. winmonkeyspit3
SOOPOO vs. Croupier
miplet vs. avargov
vendman1 vs. makingbook
FrGamble vs. rainman
JohnnyQ vs. Maverick17
dwheatley vs. paisiello
| Player | R1 (1x) | R2 (1x) | R3 (1x) | R4 (2x) | R5 (1x) | R6 (1x) | R7 (4x) | Bank |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | O | X | O | O | O | O | X | $4.50 |
| Croupier | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 |
| Din | O | O | X | O | O | X | $9.00 | |
| dwheatley | O | O | O | O | O | O | X | $9.00 |
| FrGamble | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 |
| gameterror | O | O | X | O | O | O | $6.75 | |
| JohnnyQ | O | O | O | X | O | O | O | $7.88 |
| makingbook | X | O | X | O | O | O | O | $5.63 |
| Maverick17 | X | O | O | X | O | X | $4.50 | |
| miplet | X | O | O | O | O | O | O | $4.50 |
| paisiello | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | $3.38 |
| rainman | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $3.94 |
| SOOPOO | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.06 |
| thecesspit | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.63 | |
| vendman1 | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.63 | |
| winmonkeyspit3 | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.75 |
Round 8 matchups. 5% share. Plays due 8:00 AM on Friday.
gameterror vs. thecesspit
Din vs. winmonkeyspit3
SOOPOO vs. Croupier
miplet vs. avargov
vendman1 vs. makingbook
FrGamble vs. rainman
JohnnyQ vs. Maverick17
dwheatley vs. paisiello
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 5th, 2012 at 1:40:30 PM
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Quote: avargovYep....saw that coming....glad I chose to steal!!!
Ditto....
Can't disclose PM conversations, but it would not take Phil Ivey to see through those lines. LOL
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
December 5th, 2012 at 2:32:16 PM
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Actually, you would've gotten a share out of me with a reply. I kept waiting for one and never got it. Lol. Oh well, we are way behind now!!!
Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." ~ William Gibson
December 5th, 2012 at 2:38:33 PM
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Does an eliminated player, like AcesAndEights, get his $3.94?
December 5th, 2012 at 3:08:10 PM
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My simple strategy of sharing every round has worked well thus far as I'm currently tied for 4th with 6.75 in the bank. Best of luck to all this round.
December 5th, 2012 at 4:00:06 PM
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Quote: SOOPOODoes an eliminated player, like AcesAndEights, get his $3.94?
I suppose there is no rule that they can't, so I'll pay if asked. However, since the eliminated players didn't keep up their end of the bargain to be actively engaged, I don't think they deserve anything.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 5th, 2012 at 4:03:33 PM
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Quote: WizardI suppose there is no rule that they can't, so I'll pay if asked. However, since the eliminated players didn't keep up their end of the bargain to be actively engaged, I don't think they deserve anything.
I'll pass on collecting my $3.94. If the stakes were 10 times higher I may come after my $39.40 :)
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
December 5th, 2012 at 4:34:37 PM
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Quote: avargovOh well, we are way behind now!!!
Or conversely, you are $ 4.50 ahead of where you
would have been if you didn't play at all.
As far as I know, there is no bonus for having the
highest score, 'cept for bragging rights......
.....which should be worth somethin' !
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 5th, 2012 at 9:38:23 PM
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Quote: avargovActually, you would've gotten a share out of me with a reply. I kept waiting for one and never got it. Lol. Oh well, we are way behind now!!!
I agree we are way behind.
As an FYI, anyone who puts a ;) in a pm to me is deemed untrustworthy.... Lol
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
December 6th, 2012 at 3:14:46 PM
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"Sarge - it's quiet out here."
"YEAH, TOO QUIET !"
Anyhows, my selection is in for Round 8
and it is what I said it would be in my
PM to my "pairing partner".
"YEAH, TOO QUIET !"
Anyhows, my selection is in for Round 8
and it is what I said it would be in my
PM to my "pairing partner".
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 7th, 2012 at 8:04:12 AM
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Quote: WizardUpdated box score through game 7.
Player R1 (1x) R2 (1x) R3 (1x) R4 (2x) R5 (1x) R6 (1x) R7 (4x) Bank avargov O X O O O O X $4.50 Croupier O O O O O O O $6.19 Din O O X O O X $9.00 dwheatley O O O O O O X $9.00 FrGamble O O O O O O O $6.19 gameterror O O X O O O $6.75 JohnnyQ O O O X O O O $7.88 makingbook X O X O O O O $5.63 Maverick17 X O O X O X $4.50 miplet X O O O O O O $4.50 paisiello O X O O O O O $3.38 rainman O O O O O O O $3.94 SOOPOO O O O O O O O $5.06 thecesspit O O O O O O $5.63 vendman1 O O O O O O $5.63 winmonkeyspit3 O O O O O O O $6.75
Round 8 matchups. 5% share. Plays due 8:00 AM on Friday.
gameterror vs. thecesspit
Din vs. winmonkeyspit3
SOOPOO vs. Croupier
miplet vs. avargov
vendman1 vs. makingbook
FrGamble vs. rainman
JohnnyQ vs. Maverick17
dwheatley vs. paisiello
Presenting your round 8 selections:
GB2 - Round 8
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| gameterror | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| Din | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| SOOPOO | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| miplet | Share | vs. | avargov | Share |
| vendman1 | Share | vs. | makingbook | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | rainman | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | Maverick17 | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | paisiello | Steal |
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 7th, 2012 at 8:21:02 AM
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Updated box score through round 8.
Round 9 matchups, for a 5% share.
Croupier vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. SOOPOO
Maverick17 vs. FrGamble
thecesspit vs. avargov
paisiello vs. vendman1
dwheatley vs. miplet
JohnnyQ vs. winmonkeyspit3
rainman vs. Din
Choices to 8 AM on Sunday.
| Player | R1 (1x) | R2 (1x) | R3 (1x) | R4 (2x) | R5 (1x) | R6 (1x) | R7 (4x) | R8 (1x) | Bank |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | O | X | O | O | O | O | X | O | $5.06 |
| Croupier | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.75 |
| Din | O | O | X | O | O | X | O | $9.56 | |
| dwheatley | O | O | O | O | O | O | X | O | $9.00 |
| FrGamble | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.75 |
| gameterror | O | O | X | O | O | O | O | $7.31 | |
| JohnnyQ | O | O | O | X | O | O | O | O | $8.44 |
| makingbook | X | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 |
| Maverick17 | X | O | O | X | O | X | O | $5.06 | |
| miplet | X | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.06 |
| paisiello | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | X | $4.50 |
| rainman | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $4.50 |
| SOOPOO | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.63 |
| thecesspit | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 | |
| vendman1 | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 | |
| winmonkeyspit3 | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $7.31 |
Round 9 matchups, for a 5% share.
Croupier vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. SOOPOO
Maverick17 vs. FrGamble
thecesspit vs. avargov
paisiello vs. vendman1
dwheatley vs. miplet
JohnnyQ vs. winmonkeyspit3
rainman vs. Din
Choices to 8 AM on Sunday.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 9th, 2012 at 8:21:33 AM
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Quote: WizardUpdated box score through round 8.
Player R1 (1x) R2 (1x) R3 (1x) R4 (2x) R5 (1x) R6 (1x) R7 (4x) R8 (1x) Bank avargov O X O O O O X O $5.06 Croupier O O O O O O O O $6.75 Din O O X O O X O $9.56 dwheatley O O O O O O X O $9.00 FrGamble O O O O O O O O $6.75 gameterror O O X O O O O $7.31 JohnnyQ O O O X O O O O $8.44 makingbook X O X O O O O O $6.19 Maverick17 X O O X O X O $5.06 miplet X O O O O O O O $5.06 paisiello O X O O O O O X $4.50 rainman O O O O O O O O $4.50 SOOPOO O O O O O O O O $5.63 thecesspit O O O O O O O $6.19 vendman1 O O O O O O O $6.19 winmonkeyspit3 O O O O O O O O $7.31
Round 9 matchups, for a 5% share.
Croupier vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. SOOPOO
Maverick17 vs. FrGamble
thecesspit vs. avargov
paisiello vs. vendman1
dwheatley vs. miplet
JohnnyQ vs. winmonkeyspit3
rainman vs. Din
Choices to 8 AM on Sunday.
Presenting your Round 9 selections. I rechecked for a message from Maverick17, and even sent myself a PM to verify that the messaging system was working. However, there was no message from him. Does this mean someone gets a free payday in the final round? Maybe the Wizard should insert himself in the empty slot...
GB2 - Round 9
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Croupier | Share | vs. | gameterror | Share |
| MakingBook | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| Maverick17 | No Response | vs. | FrGamble | Steal |
| thecesspit | Steal | vs. | avargov | Share |
| paisiello | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| rainman | Share | vs. | Din | Share |
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 9th, 2012 at 8:41:41 AM
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Quote: Ayecarumba
Presenting your Round 9 selections. I rechecked for a message from Maverick17, and even sent myself a PM to verify that the messaging system was working. However, there was no message from him. Does this mean someone gets a free payday in the final round? Maybe the Wizard should insert himself in the empty slot...GB2 - Round 9
Player 1 P1 Selects vs. Player 2 P2 Selects Croupier Share vs. gameterror Share MakingBook Share vs. SOOPOO Share Maverick17 No Response vs. FrGamble Steal thecesspit Steal vs. avargov Share paisiello Share vs. vendman1 Share dwheatley Share vs. miplet Share JohnnyQ Share vs. winmonkeyspit3 Share rainman Share vs. Din Share
Is one of the red steal highlights a typo? Of course he was facing a serial stealer. One that didn't even reply.
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 9th, 2012 at 8:53:49 AM
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Here is the updated box score.
Maverick17 has missed two rounds and is thus eliminated.
Here are the big round 10 match ups:
vendman1 vs. paisiello
dwheatley vs. SOOPOO
JohnnyQ vs. FrGamble
rainman vs. Din
thecesspit vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3
miplet vs. Croupier
avargov was randomly chosen to get a free bye, due to the odd number of remaining players. No response is expected from him and he is guaranteed a full share.
Because this is the big round with a 7x (35%) share I'll allow an extra day for deliberation. Plays are due 8:00 AM on Wednesday.
| Player | R1 (1x) | R2 (1x) | R3 (1x) | R4 (2x) | R5 (1x) | R6 (1x) | R7 (4x) | R8 (1x) | R9 (1x) | Bank |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | O | X | O | O | O | O | X | O | O | $5.06 |
| Croupier | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $7.31 |
| Din | O | O | X | O | O | X | O | O | $10.13 | |
| dwheatley | O | O | O | O | O | O | X | O | O | $9.56 |
| FrGamble | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | X | $7.88 |
| gameterror | O | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | $7.88 | |
| JohnnyQ | O | O | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | $9.00 |
| makingbook | X | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.75 |
| Maverick17 | X | O | O | X | O | X | O | $5.06 | ||
| miplet | X | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.63 |
| paisiello | O | X | O | O | O | O | O | X | O | $5.06 |
| rainman | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $5.06 |
| SOOPOO | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.19 |
| thecesspit | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | X | $7.31 | |
| vendman1 | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $6.75 | |
| winmonkeyspit3 | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | O | $7.88 |
Maverick17 has missed two rounds and is thus eliminated.
Here are the big round 10 match ups:
vendman1 vs. paisiello
dwheatley vs. SOOPOO
JohnnyQ vs. FrGamble
rainman vs. Din
thecesspit vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3
miplet vs. Croupier
avargov was randomly chosen to get a free bye, due to the odd number of remaining players. No response is expected from him and he is guaranteed a full share.
Because this is the big round with a 7x (35%) share I'll allow an extra day for deliberation. Plays are due 8:00 AM on Wednesday.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 9th, 2012 at 9:08:32 AM
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Now the fun really begins. How many of those that have shared the entire game will go for the round 10 steal?
December 9th, 2012 at 9:31:11 AM
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Quote: DinNow the fun really begins. How many of those that have shared the entire game will go for the round 10 steal?
I have shared the entire way through. I have already told my opponent for the final round that my strategy was going to be share in the early rounds, then steal in the final if it was someone who stole from me once.
I have already submitted my share selection.
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December 9th, 2012 at 9:34:08 AM
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Quote: mipletQuote: Ayecarumba
Presenting your Round 9 selections. I rechecked for a message from Maverick17, and even sent myself a PM to verify that the messaging system was working. However, there was no message from him. Does this mean someone gets a free payday in the final round? Maybe the Wizard should insert himself in the empty slot...GB2 - Round 9
Player 1 P1 Selects vs. Player 2 P2 Selects Croupier Share vs. gameterror Share MakingBook Share vs. SOOPOO Share Maverick17 No Response vs. FrGamble Steal thecesspit Steal vs. avargov Share paisiello Share vs. vendman1 Share dwheatley Share vs. miplet Share JohnnyQ Share vs. winmonkeyspit3 Share rainman Share vs. Din Share
Is one of the red steal highlights a typo? Of course he was facing a serial stealer. One that didn't even reply.
I'm a git. I default to a steal as my response early to avoid missing a turn out like I did before, then change to share once I hear from my opponent. Last night I heard from my opponent, but failed to do the update. By mistake. (shakes head)... I feel bad, there was no reason to steal last round once avargov got in touch, but I went and done it.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
December 9th, 2012 at 9:38:22 AM
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Here is some pre-round 10 analysis.
vendman1 vs. paisiello: all shares vs. 2 steals in 1x rounds. I'd be interested to know the reasons for paisiollo steals, but perhaps out lack of communication from the opponent or revenge. Vendman is in a strong second place in the football contest, I should add.
dwheatley vs. SOOPOO: dw has a steal in the 4x round against all shares from SOOPOO. I'm sure dw will promise to share, but can SOOPOO trust him? Perhaps SOOPOO was planning a round 10 steal all along anyway.
JohnnyQ vs. FrGamble: Q has a steal in the 2x round, and FrG one in round 9x, against Maverick, who didn't submit a play. A priest stealing; you don't see that every day. However, against somebody who probably wasn't engaged, I don't blame him. I expect a share from FrG. The question is how many years in purgatory will Johnny get for stealing from a priest?
rainman vs. Din: Rainman is 100% shares against Din with a steal in both big rounds. Similar situation to the dwheatley vs. SOOPOO match.
thecesspit vs. gameterror: Both players have one steal. thecesspit had a surprise steal in the last round. What was that about? I think they both have a little explaining to do for their rogue steals. With good communication, I could picture two shares.
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3: MB had two early steals but then seemed to start earning karma points. Monkey has all shares. MB made a comment in GB-I about maximizing expected value, so I think Monkey may have a hard time trusting him. Again, a similar situation to dwheatley vs. SOOPOO.
miplet vs. Croupier: The only steal between them is one from miplet in round 1. That may have been out of revenge from GB-I. I know these two personally, and could picture two shares. Then again, maybe this is a way to cash in on a good reputation with a succesful steal.
vendman1 vs. paisiello: all shares vs. 2 steals in 1x rounds. I'd be interested to know the reasons for paisiollo steals, but perhaps out lack of communication from the opponent or revenge. Vendman is in a strong second place in the football contest, I should add.
dwheatley vs. SOOPOO: dw has a steal in the 4x round against all shares from SOOPOO. I'm sure dw will promise to share, but can SOOPOO trust him? Perhaps SOOPOO was planning a round 10 steal all along anyway.
JohnnyQ vs. FrGamble: Q has a steal in the 2x round, and FrG one in round 9x, against Maverick, who didn't submit a play. A priest stealing; you don't see that every day. However, against somebody who probably wasn't engaged, I don't blame him. I expect a share from FrG. The question is how many years in purgatory will Johnny get for stealing from a priest?
rainman vs. Din: Rainman is 100% shares against Din with a steal in both big rounds. Similar situation to the dwheatley vs. SOOPOO match.
thecesspit vs. gameterror: Both players have one steal. thecesspit had a surprise steal in the last round. What was that about? I think they both have a little explaining to do for their rogue steals. With good communication, I could picture two shares.
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3: MB had two early steals but then seemed to start earning karma points. Monkey has all shares. MB made a comment in GB-I about maximizing expected value, so I think Monkey may have a hard time trusting him. Again, a similar situation to dwheatley vs. SOOPOO.
miplet vs. Croupier: The only steal between them is one from miplet in round 1. That may have been out of revenge from GB-I. I know these two personally, and could picture two shares. Then again, maybe this is a way to cash in on a good reputation with a succesful steal.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 9th, 2012 at 9:42:55 AM
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Quote: DinNow the fun really begins. How many of those that have shared the entire game will go for the round 10 steal?
If I read the table correctly, there are 4 members who
have shared each round so far.
But, this round has a pay-out 7 times higher than a
typical round. So could be interesting.....
I think a lot comes down to who you get paired with
in the final round. I am happy with getting partnered
up with FrGamble.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 9th, 2012 at 9:46:38 AM
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Quote: WizardI'd be interested to know the reasons for paisiollo steals, but perhaps out lack of communication from the opponent or revenge.
I stated my reasons previously: vs. WongBo for stealing the final round in GB I, and vs. dwheatley for stealing in round 7 in GB II.
December 9th, 2012 at 10:45:52 AM
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Here is a list of each round.
GB2 - Round 1
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| rainman | Share | vs. | gameterror | Share |
| AcesAndEights | Share | vs. | bbvk05 | No Response |
| paisiello | Share | vs. | FrGamble | Share |
| SOOPOO | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| makingbook | Steal | vs. | miplet | Steal |
| WongBo | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| strictlyAP | No Response | vs. | Maverick17 | Steal |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | dwheatley | Share |
| thecesspit | Share | vs. | avargov | Share |
| winmonkeyspit3 | Share | vs. | Din | Share |
GB2 - Round 2
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | Steal | vs. | Maverick17 | No Response |
| Din | No Response | vs. | dwheatley | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | JohnnyQ | Share |
| miplet | Share | vs. | makingbook | Share |
| SOOPOO | Share | vs. | rainman | Share |
| bbvk05 | No Response | vs. | AcesAndEights | No Response |
| Croupier | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| WongBo | No Response | vs. | paisiello | Steal |
| winmonkeyspit3 | Share | vs. | vendman1 | No Response |
| StrictlyAP | No Response | vs. | gameterror | No Response |
GB2 - Round 3
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| AcesAndEights | Share | vs. | Maverick17 | Share |
| avargov | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| Croupier | Share | vs. | paisiello | Share |
| Din | Share | vs. | rainman | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| gameterror | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| makingbook | Steal | vs. | WongBo | Steal |
GB2 - Round 4 (2X)
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| WongBo | Share | vs. | JohnnyQ | Steal |
| makingbook | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| vendman1 | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | dwheatley | Share |
| miplet | Share | vs. | Din | Steal |
| Maverick17 | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| rainman | Share | vs. | avargov | Share |
| SOOPOO | Share | vs. | AcesAndEights | Steal |
| paisiello | Share | vs. | gameterror | Steal |
GB2 - Round 5
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| vendman1 | Share | vs. | rainman | Share |
| Croupier | Share | vs. | Din | Share |
| avargov | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| makingbook | Share | vs. | thecesspit | No Response |
| Maverick17 | Steal | vs. | AcesAndEights | No Response |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| WongBo | No Response | vs. | JohnnyQ | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | paisiello | Share |
| gameterror | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
GB2 - Round 6
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| makingbook | Share | vs. | paisiello | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| rainman | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| Din | Share | vs. | Maverick17 | Share |
| miplet | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| avargov | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | gameterror | Share |
GB2 - Round 7 (4X)
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| avargov | Steal | vs. | Maverick17 | Steal |
| Croupier | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| Din | Steal | vs. | paisiello | Share |
| dwheatley | Steal | vs. | rainman | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| gameterror | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| makingbook | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
GB2 - Round 8
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| gameterror | Share | vs. | thecesspit | Share |
| Din | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| SOOPOO | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| miplet | Share | vs. | avargov | Share |
| vendman1 | Share | vs. | makingbook | Share |
| FrGamble | Share | vs. | rainman | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | Maverick17 | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | paisiello | Steal |
GB2 - Round 9
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Croupier | Share | vs. | gameterror | Share |
| MakingBook | Share | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| Maverick17 | No Response | vs. | FrGamble | Steal |
| thecesspit | Steal | vs. | avargov | Share |
| paisiello | Share | vs. | vendman1 | Share |
| dwheatley | Share | vs. | miplet | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Share |
| rainman | Share | vs. | Din | Share |
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 9th, 2012 at 11:21:14 AM
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Quote: paisielloI stated my reasons previously: vs. WongBo for stealing the final round in GB I, and vs. dwheatley for stealing in round 7 in GB II.
Hey cool, Roman Numerals just like the Superbowl !
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 9th, 2012 at 12:23:42 PM
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I don't know what happened to my share pm. I sent it right after I responded to frgambles pm to me yesterday.
I'm no serial stealer, only stole when there was no response or when I knew I was being lied to.
This last round would have definitely depended on who I was matched up with, but there is a good chance I was stealing since I was down in the $$ column, and I was more interested in winning than actually getting paid.
If there is a gb3 there should be a no weekend rule, that was tough for me and many others in the game.
Good luck to all the thieves for round 10!!!!!
I'm no serial stealer, only stole when there was no response or when I knew I was being lied to.
This last round would have definitely depended on who I was matched up with, but there is a good chance I was stealing since I was down in the $$ column, and I was more interested in winning than actually getting paid.
If there is a gb3 there should be a no weekend rule, that was tough for me and many others in the game.
Good luck to all the thieves for round 10!!!!!
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
December 9th, 2012 at 12:41:36 PM
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Quote: Maverick17I don't know what happened to my share pm. I sent it right after I responded to frgambles pm to me yesterday.
I'm no serial stealer, only stole when there was no response or when I knew I was being lied to.
This last round would have definitely depended on who I was matched up with, but there is a good chance I was stealing since I was down in the $$ column, and I was more interested in winning than actually getting paid.
If there is a gb3 there should be a no weekend rule, that was tough for me and many others in the game.
Good luck to all the thieves for round 10!!!!!
Oops. I'm sorry I called you a serial stealer. You had no steals vs someone who shared. Heading to bed now, but I wonder who else had no successful steals?
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 9th, 2012 at 1:05:56 PM
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Quote: Maverick17If there is a gb3.....
Speaking of GB3, what other activities can
we think of to keep the children occupied ?
I thought the NFL football "Last Man Standing"
contest that the Wiz entered sounded fun.
So I nominate that for next year. 9 Months
should give everyone plenty of time to sort
out their strategy.
For a little twist, I would propose adding
some # of Random entries as contestants,
just to see how far they would get.
Anything else ?
I guess we already have the Price of Gold
contest and the Super Bowl contest currently
running.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 9th, 2012 at 1:18:52 PM
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WizardofEngland had a black sheep game going but vanished during the second iteration. Everyone loves a good game, especially people who visit this site.
December 9th, 2012 at 2:43:09 PM
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Quote: Maverick17If there is a gb3 there should be a no weekend rule, that was tough for me and many others in the game.
Good suggestion. I think there will be a GB-III, but I'll take a break from it for a while. Maybe around March.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 9th, 2012 at 6:13:40 PM
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Quote: Maverick17I don't know what happened to my share pm. I sent it right after I responded to frgambles pm to me yesterday.
I'm no serial stealer, only stole when there was no response or when I knew I was being lied to.
This last round would have definitely depended on who I was matched up with, but there is a good chance I was stealing since I was down in the $$ column, and I was more interested in winning than actually getting paid.
If there is a gb3 there should be a no weekend rule, that was tough for me and many others in the game.
Good luck to all the thieves for round 10!!!!!
I didn't get it. A copy should have been saved in your "outbox". If it is there, please take it up with the Wizard as soon as possible.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 10th, 2012 at 10:17:37 AM
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Quote: AyecarumbaI didn't get it. A copy should have been saved in your "outbox". If it is there, please take it up with the Wizard as soon as possible.
I looked and didn't see it either.
I was using my phone to send the PM, and I did send the FrGamble PM.
I am guessing my phone timed out before it sent the message to you, and my drunk ass forgot about it when I looked down at my now "off" phone and wondered why it was in my hand in the first place, looked up and saw some decent ass, sauntered over to put sweet moves on her, and the rest, they say, is history.
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
December 10th, 2012 at 2:15:11 PM
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Quote: Maverick17I looked and didn't see it either.
I was using my phone to send the PM, and I did send the FrGamble PM.
I am guessing my phone timed out before it sent the message to you, and my drunk ass forgot about it when I looked down at my now "off" phone and wondered why it was in my hand in the first place, looked up and saw some decent ass, sauntered over to put sweet moves on her, and the rest, they say, is history.
That ladies and gentlemen is why this forum is so great!
December 10th, 2012 at 3:24:09 PM
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Quote: Maverick17I am guessing my phone timed out before it sent the message to you, and my drunk ass forgot about it when I looked down at my now "off" phone and wondered why it was in my hand in the first place, looked up and saw some decent ass, sauntered over to put sweet moves on her, and the rest, they say, is history.
Is there a Post of the Year Award?
If there is, Maverick17 just won it.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
December 10th, 2012 at 5:05:30 PM
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Quote: MakingBookIs there a Post of the Year Award?
www.bj21.com has a post of the month award in the Green Chip section. Maybe we should do something like that. I'm spread too thin to be host such an award, but welcome anybody else to take the lead.
Here is one of my favorites (by WongBo).
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 11th, 2012 at 6:21:37 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQBut, this round has a pay-out 7 times higher than a
typical round. So could be interesting.
OK, continuing with my insightful analysis:
- There were 12 steals total in the first 6 rounds.
- The 10th round is worth the same amount as
the first 6 rounds put together.
- So, just extrapolate and figure on 12 steals in
round #10.
Since FrG probably wouldn't steal again, and I
wouldn't steal fearing hard time in purgatory
(as previously noted by the Wiz), therefore
everyone else will steal in round #10.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 11th, 2012 at 8:31:35 PM
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Less than 12 hours to go. Here are my predictions. 2 share pairs. 1 successful steal and the rest both steal.
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 12th, 2012 at 8:11:28 AM
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Quote: WizardHere is the updated box score.
Player R1 (1x) R2 (1x) R3 (1x) R4 (2x) R5 (1x) R6 (1x) R7 (4x) R8 (1x) R9 (1x) Bank avargov O X O O O O X O O $5.06 Croupier O O O O O O O O O $7.31 Din O O X O O X O O $10.13 dwheatley O O O O O O X O O $9.56 FrGamble O O O O O O O O X $7.88 gameterror O O X O O O O O $7.88 JohnnyQ O O O X O O O O O $9.00 makingbook X O X O O O O O O $6.75 Maverick17 X O O X O X O $5.06 miplet X O O O O O O O O $5.63 paisiello O X O O O O O X O $5.06 rainman O O O O O O O O O $5.06 SOOPOO O O O O O O O O O $6.19 thecesspit O O O O O O O X $7.31 vendman1 O O O O O O O O $6.75 winmonkeyspit3 O O O O O O O O O $7.88
Maverick17 has missed two rounds and is thus eliminated.
Here are the big round 10 match ups:
vendman1 vs. paisiello
dwheatley vs. SOOPOO
JohnnyQ vs. FrGamble
rainman vs. Din
thecesspit vs. gameterror
makingbook vs. winmonkeyspit3
miplet vs. Croupier
avargov was randomly chosen to get a free bye, due to the odd number of remaining players. No response is expected from him and he is guaranteed a full share.
Because this is the big round with a 7x (35%) share I'll allow an extra day for deliberation. Plays are due 8:00 AM on Wednesday.
Presenting the Round 10 selections:
GB2 - Round 10 - Final
| Player 1 | P1 Selects | vs. | Player 2 | P2 Selects |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| vendman1 | Steal | vs. | paisiello | Steal |
| dwheatley | Steal | vs. | SOOPOO | Share |
| JohnnyQ | Steal | vs. | FrGamble | Share |
| rainman | Share | vs. | Din | Steal |
| thecesspit | Share | vs. | gameterror | Steal |
| MakingBook | Share | vs. | winmonkeyspit3 | Steal |
| miplet | Share | vs. | Croupier | Share |
| avargov | Freeroll |
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 12th, 2012 at 8:26:39 AM
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lots of successful steals...who would have thought...and i'm still kind of feeling bad about my own successful steal :-(
but i just had to do it for the EV :-)
but i just had to do it for the EV :-)
Things have never been so swell
I have never failed to fail
December 12th, 2012 at 8:28:16 AM
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Quote: Ayecarumba
Presenting the Round 10 selections:GB2 - Round 10 - Final
Player 1 P1 Selects vs. Player 2 P2 Selects vendman1 Steal vs. paisiello Steal dwheatley Steal vs. SOOPOO Share JohnnyQ Steal vs. FrGamble Share rainman Share vs. Din Steal thecesspit Share vs. gameterror Steal MakingBook Share vs. winmonkeyspit3 Steal miplet Share vs. Croupier Share avargov Freeroll
Wow! Only Croupier and I both choose Share. vendman1 and paisiello stole from each other. dwheatley, JohnnyQ, Din, gameterror, and winmonkeyspit3 stole from SOOPOO, FrGamble, rainman, thecesspit, and MakingBook.
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
December 12th, 2012 at 8:29:14 AM
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5 perfect steals. That is a bit surprising to me.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
