Which Condition Would Make It Hardest To Have A Good Time In Vegas?
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Quote: AZDuffmanCan we add in "being forced to share a room with both Jerry and MKL?"
You're not in the Free Speech forum, so the rules against personal insults apply.
My vote would be going to Vegas during the NFR which I will be doing next week and have done 3 out of the past 4 years. It's just a totally different vibe during the NFR with all the cowboy hats and boots
Quote: MoscaWhere is "severe diarrhea"?
Lots of washrooms in Vegas... you'd be fine. Beautiful toilets to dump your watery stool into :)
Of course, some asthmatics are more sensitive to smoke than others.
Quote: dudestupidThe walking did seem to take a toll, though.
Why anybody would walk anywhere in Vegas has always been a mystery to me. Its hot in the summer and cold in the winter, and everything is so far apart. Yet you see hundreds of walkers everywhere you go. I have no time to walk in Vegas, I'm there for a few days, not a few months.
Quote:Which Condition Would Make It Hardest To Have A Good Time In Vegas?
Expensive hookers.
Quote: mkl654321Blindness, no doubt. So much of Vegas is visual, including the games themselves.
My wife is nearly blind and has a ball in Vegas, Atlantic City or any of the other casinos we visit. We do some shows and even though she can't see the stage or the players clearly she enjoys the music and dialogue.
The absolutely worst thing that could happen, in my opinion, is tapping out on any but the last day of your trip.
Quote: mkl654321You're not in the Free Speech forum, so the rules against personal insults apply.
Not an insult, more of a satiric observation.
Quote:Mostly Deaf
The Strip, being noisy and all, I could see some advantages to being deaf.
Quote: TheNightflyI'd prefer to have a deaf, dumb and blind player beside me while I smoke than a whiner. I love playing in Vegas because it's one of the few places where I can smoke at the table and it's absolutely fantastic. I always ask the player(s) and the dealer if they mind if I light up before I do and if no one cares I enjoy my cigarette and make sure to blow the smoke away from anyone else at the table. If someone sits down while I'm smoking then I guess they probably are blind if they are dumb enough to sit at a talbe with a guy who is smoking and they don't like smoke. I find it amusing when people beside me do the little *cough, cough* thing like I'm killing them. I'd rather be deaf than have to listen to those wimps who can't stand a little smoke and feel it's important to tell anyone else, believing that anyone else cares. If they don't like it they can get up and find another table... but I'm sure they're the sort of person who'd rather complain than go to another table. Yup, those people are real douches.
Yada...yada...yada...No wonder your byline says happiness is overrated. You know how dumb you are to be a smoker, you know what sufferring awaits you and how black and ugly your lungs get with each puff, you know intelligent people put you down all the time and there's nothing educated that you can respond with, and you know your family will end up wailing like a bunch of tortured babies upon seeing you die an excruciating death in front of their very eyes.
Oh, and the ignorance to smoke nearby ANYBODY who doesn't? Doesn't really matter does it, because next year you may be long gone and in the grave because of it.
You are in a very small minority of smokers that are considerate of others. Thank you.Quote: TheNightflyI always ask the player(s) and the dealer if they mind if I light up before I do and if no one cares I enjoy my cigarette and make sure to blow the smoke away from anyone else at the table.
Quote: DJTeddyBearYou are in a very small minority of smokers that are considerate of others. Thank you.
He's not being considerate, no smoker is because all that smoke goes somewhere it's not wanted. He just does that to see if he can get a jump on the issue before anyone speaks up, and almost always everyone's too embarrassed after that happens and the smoking fool knows it. It's called a "smoker's play" and if that ever happens with me nearby I call his bluff and say it bother me. That's where they usually leave with their tails tucked firmly between their legs.
Quote: JerryLoganHe's not being consederate, no smoker is because all that smoke goes somewhere it's not wanted. He just does that to see if he can get a jump on the issue before anyone speaks up, and almost always everyone's too embarrassed after that happens and the smoking fool knows it. It's called a "smoker's play" and if that ever happens with me nearby I call his bluff and say it bother me. That's where they usually leave with their tails tucked firmly between their legs.
No, it's not a bluff. It's out of consideration for others, something that I understand many people don't have. I wouldn't leave simply because someone would prefer that I don't smoke. I'd sit and play at my table of choice without smoking. I do make an exception if someone is being a douchebag and if provoked enough I might even blow a little smoke in their direction. I happen to have a medical condition that is only controlled by smoking a pack of cigarettes per day. You see Jerry, if I don't smoke, I'll die. It will be a very nasty and painful death. Sure, I know that some studies have linked smoking to cancers and other diseases but I've chosen a long-term risk of death from smoking over a certain death from not. I also couldn't care less what someone might have to say about smoking because it's generally just a foolish comment from a douchebag who knows nothing about my condition and I understand that some people just feel they have to stick their noses into someone else's business. Now you can see why I'll take the deaf dumb and blind player over an irritating, nosy, ignorant douchebag.
Quote: TheNightflyNo, it's not a bluff. It's out of consideration for others,
Then go outdoors. Jerry is right, the smoke goes somewhere in the building. They just announced this week that 600,000 deaths a year are directly linked to second hand cigarette smoke. Thanks for your 'consideration'.
Smoking is allowed in casinos, it's legal, and even though nightfly might be killing himself, one less smoker in a casino won't matter one bit. Nightfly doesn't need to go outdoors. He blows it away from people. Yes, he's adding to the total concentration of smoke in the atmosphere. Here's the thing. You don't have to sit next to him. There are plenty of VP machines where there are no smokers and plenty of tables as well. So rather than a self-righteous rant about how he's killing himself and the others around him (which I am sure he knows), let him be.
Quote: boymimboWell gee whiz, if 2nd hand smoke kills 600,000 a year, then why do they let you smoke in casinos?
Why do you think? Because casinos lose tons of customers when they ban smoking and every state gets tons of revenue from casinos. Always follow the money, it'll never lie to you. Its a fact that smoke kills yet the gov't doesn't ban cigarettes. Same reason, follow the money. Look at all the other stuff gov't has banned over the years because its 'bad' for you, but never tobacco, the worst culprit of all.
Quote: EvenBobThen go outdoors. Jerry is right, the smoke goes somewhere in the building. They just announced this week that 600,000 deaths a year are directly linked to second hand cigarette smoke. Thanks for your 'consideration'.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where any player is forced to be in a building where smoking is permitted. I often do go outside and smoke but I prefer to smoke at my table if the casino permits it and no one at my table tells me that they'd rather I don't.
I don't like loud music so I don't go to concerts. I suppose I could go to a concert and then complain about how loud it is and make some uninformed statement about how "they" say that music over a certain decibal level will harm my hearing, but that would make me an idiot. I prefer to listen to music in my home at the volume I choose.
It would be neat if there was a way that people could gamble at home and play in a smokeless environment, wouldn't it... hey wait a second...
Quote: TheNightflyI happen to have a medical condition that is only controlled by smoking a pack of cigarettes per day. You see Jerry, if I don't smoke, I'll die. It will be a very nasty and painful death.
Haha! Out of that name-calling filled rant, what I liked most is the above quote. Hmmm....a "MEDICAL CONDITION THAT, IF ONE DOES NOT LIGHT UP A PACK OF CANCER STICKS A DAY, THEY WILL PERISH AMID UNTOLD PAIN & SUFFERRING!" Does House know that one??
Again, no wonder you claim happiness is underrated. You've never experienced it have you.
Quote: TheNightflyI'm sorry, I missed the part where any player is forced to be in a building where smoking is permitted. ..
So all non smokers should go outdoors because you're too weak to control a habit thats killing you and maybe those around you? Thats life in your world? It give the term 'selfish behavior' a whole new meaning. And its killing you, make no mistake. Just because some people don't live long enough for it to have its full effect doesn't mean that using your lungs to filter burning weeds isn't effecting you just as much as it did the guy who died from lung cancer last week.
Quote: EvenBobWhy do you think? Because casinos lose tons of customers when they ban smoking and every state gets tons of revenue from casinos. Always follow the money, it'll never lie to you. Its a fact that smoke kills yet the gov't doesn't ban cigarettes. Same reason, follow the money. Look at all the other stuff gov't has banned over the years because its 'bad' for you, but never tobacco, the worst culprit of all.
Smokers know the score Bob, they just don't like it when it's rubbed in their faces. Then there's the liberal whiners who claim they have every right to kill themselves with their smelly habit.
I just wonder how their wives like tasting it when giving them a blow job.
Quote: EvenBobThen go outdoors. Jerry is right, the smoke goes somewhere in the building. They just announced this week that 600,000 deaths a year are directly linked to second hand cigarette smoke. Thanks for your 'consideration'.
This seems like a high number. Some online searching shows 2.4MM people in the USA died last year. That mumber states that 25% of the deaths in the USA are directly related to secondhand smoke if it is true. Given how few places you are forced to come into contact with smokers unless you want to this makes it even less likely. Think about it, how often are you forced into a smokey envrionment? I go weeks without even being around smokers and when I do it is rarely for any amount of time.
600,000 per year? Sounds like they took a lot of liberty connecting cause and effect.
Quote: AZDuffmanThink about it, how often are you forced into a smokey envrionment?
Every time I play roulette, about 3 times a week. I have an idea. Human urine is sterile when it comes out, you can even use it to clean a wound in an emergency. We should be allowed to haul out John Thomas and piss all over the leg of the guy that lights up next to us. Its harmless, unlike what he's doing, and sure would make a point.
Quote: AZDuffman
600,000 per year? Sounds like they took a lot of liberty connecting cause and effect.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP00D20101126
Quote: EvenBobhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP00D20101126
So it is worldwide then, I thought you meant just in the USA. Worldwide it is a much smaller number.
Quote: JerryLoganHaha! Out of that name-calling filled rant, what I liked most is the above quote. Hmmm....a "MEDICAL CONDITION THAT, IF ONE DOES NOT LIGHT UP A PACK OF CANCER STICKS A DAY, THEY WILL PERISH AMID UNTOLD PAIN & SUFFERRING!" Does House know that one??
Again, no wonder you claim happiness is underrated. You've never experienced it have you.
I guess I'll have to say it again seeing as you seem to have a tough time understanding plain English. If I don't smoke a pack of cigarettes per day I will die. Just because it seems outrageous to you or you've never heard of a situation such as this doesn't make it any less true. I don't know if House knows that one Jerry, he's a fictional character.
By the way, I'm a very happy person and I enjoy everything life has to offer. I acutally like life so much I'd like to keep living so I've chosen the long-term risk of getting sick from smoking over the short term certainty of a quick (3 months or so) and painful death if I don't. By the way, I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts. Thanks.
Quote: AZDuffmanSo it is worldwide then, I thought you meant just in the USA. Worldwide it is a much smaller number.
Kills 600,000 and makes millions sick worldwide. But thats OK because its 'worldwide'. So when my throat closes up and is immediately raw from the guy next to me smoking, this news will make me feel better? You must be another smoker.
Quote: EvenBobKills 600,000 and makes millions sick worldwide. But thats OK because its 'worldwide'. So when my throat closes up and is immediately raw from the guy next to me smoking, this news will make me feel better? You must be another smoker.
Nope, never a smoker and in fact had a close relative die from smoking. I think it is a stupid habit to start. But I am for personal freedom and think the casino, bar, or restaurant should choose whether to be smoking or not. I think some non-smokers are going way to far--for example there are HOAs that are prohibiting smoking IN YOUR OWN UNIT. And my biggest problem is a government that makes more money off cigarette sales than the tobacco companies do.
And yes, 600,000 worldwide is a small number when you are talking more than 50 million deaths in all.
Quote: EvenBobSo all non smokers should go outdoors because you're too weak to control a habit thats killing you and maybe those around you? Thats life in your world? It give the term 'selfish behavior' a whole new meaning. And its killing you, make no mistake. Just because some people don't live long enough for it to have its full effect doesn't mean that using your lungs to filter burning weeds isn't effecting you just as much as it did the guy who died from lung cancer last week.
No Bob, all non smokers should not go outside. All non smokers should realize that they've entered a building where smoking is permitted however and accept the situation in which they placed themselves. I suppose it's easier to whine about it than find another table or casino but yes Bob, that's life in my world where I obey rules and laws and live within them. If you have an issue with smokers in the casinos you frequent then I suggest you let management know your feelings and perhaps they'll change their policies. Until this happens however I suggest you deal with the real world and either realize that it's your choice to put yourself in an environment where there may be smokers and live with it or keep away from such an environment. I couldn't care either way but as I don't know if it's legal to urinate on someone in public in a Vegas casino, we can arrange to meet at one and see what happens.
Quote: TheNightflyI suppose it's easier to whine about it than find another table or casino.
Yes, its far far easier to whine when the casinos are 100 miles apart and the one you're in has 2 roulette tables both filled with smokers. Being able to whine is all we have.
Quote: EvenBobYes, its far far easier to whine when the casinos are 100 miles apart and the one you're in has 2 roulette tables both filled with smokers. Being able to whine is all we have.
Whine away then Bob. There is no law against that.
Quote: TheNightflyIf you have an issue with smokers in the casinos you frequent then I suggest you let management know your feelings and perhaps they'll change their policies
Casinos know that the same part of a smokers brain that lets him happily destroy his lungs with smoke, will also let him happily give all his spare cash to the casino. Why would they do anything to prevent that? There's a cigarette machine in the casino and its $10 a pack. Sometimes theres a small line of people waiting for their turn at the machine. Remarkable. My brother quit smoking in 1982 because they raised the cost of a pack from 75 cents to 82 cents at the local market. He went crazy and quit for good. Little did he know..
Quote: EvenBobCasinos know that the same part of a smokers brain that lets him happily destroy his lungs with smoke, will also let him happily give all his spare cash to the casino. Why would they do anything to prevent that? There's a cigarette machine in the casino and its $10 a pack. Sometimes theres a small line of people waiting for their turn at the machine. Remarkable.
So the casino knows their customer and caters to that? Where is the problem?
As to the average smoker, no one ever bought a pack they didn't want.
Quote: TheNightflyWhine away then Bob. There is no law against that.
You think you're unique, but you're the a-typical a****** smoker. By god its your right to destroy your lungs and the lungs of everybody around you and you'll fight for that right until the black, bitter end. You're a dying breed. Literally. LOL!
Quote: AZDuffmanSo the casino knows their customer and caters to that? Where is the problem?
I have a friend who lost his wife of 40 years to smoking in Sept. I must say, she was the most courteous smoker I ever saw. She didn't even smoke in her own house, always went out on the deck. In a restaurant she would always go outdoors. She was a nurse who worked with people who had lung problems, she knew first hand the problems second hand smoke caused. Why she smoked was a mystery to everybody, but she was badly abused as a child and we always suspected she had a death wish.
Quote: EvenBobYou think you're unique, but you're the a-typical a****** smoker. By god its your right to destroy your lungs and the lungs of everybody around you and you'll fight for that right until the black, bitter end. You're a dying breed. Literally. LOL!
I'm not fighting for anything Bob. I began about 2 pages back by stating that I enjoy playing in Vegas because it's one of the few places where I can smoke while I play. I can't do that in my local casinos. I'd rather stay local and smoke at the table here but I can't because it's against the law. No complaints, no whining. I go outside because if I want to smoke that's the only way I can do it. The good news is that there are casinos in Vegas where I don't have to go outside, so I don't. In other words, I get on a plane to go to a place where I can do what I enjoy, and that is to smoke while I play. You could do the same Bob. You could get on a plane a go to a place where you can do what you want; play in a smoke free environment. But, as you've stated, you'd rather whine. So, to make it clear, I am not fighting for anything. I am smoking where I am permitted to smoke, not smoking where I'm not permitted and expecting that other intelligent, reasonable mined people would understand that we all have choices to make and we accept the results of our choices.
Quote: EvenBobI have a friend who lost his wife of 40 years to smoking in Sept. I must say, she was the most courteous smoker I ever saw. She didn't even smoke in her own house, always went out on the deck. In a restaurant she would always go outdoors. She was a nurse who worked with people who had lung problems, she knew first hand the problems second hand smoke caused. Why she smoked was a mystery to everybody, but she was badly abused as a child and we always suspected she had a death wish.
I never understood why anyone born since 1960 would start smoking, but they do. Few if any other actions have the direct negatives. Byt lets face it, tobacco is what made the colonies viable in the 1600s. It has been an important industry since then. People simply enjoy it too much.
Quote: EvenBobSo all non smokers should go outdoors because you're too weak to control a habit thats killing you and maybe those around you?
The house says it still okay to smoke in some areas of the casino (at least here in Vegas).
So, I say, direct your feedback at the "house" more often, if you don't already. They're making the rules that everyone has to follow.
Quote: TheNightflyI guess I'll have to say it again seeing as you seem to have a tough time understanding plain English. If I don't smoke a pack of cigarettes per day I will die. Just because it seems outrageous to you or you've never heard of a situation such as this doesn't make it any less true. I don't know if House knows that one Jerry, he's a fictional character.
By the way, I'm a very happy person and I enjoy everything life has to offer. I acutally like life so much I'd like to keep living so I've chosen the long-term risk of getting sick from smoking over the short term certainty of a quick (3 months or so) and painful death if I don't. By the way, I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts. Thanks.
You didn't get it. I was saying in PLAIN ENGLISH that you're full of s***. But then again, sickly habitual smokers will say anything to justify their misery in front of others, as long as it doesn't interrupt their next cancer stick puff-a-thon.
BTW, I guess I'd be a happy camper myself if I "knew" I was going to die if I quit the cancer sticks....Now do you see why smokers lack basic logic and intelligence? They've all got a different stupid story, more excuses than Lindsay Lohan has pimples in her bush, and they derive strength from confused liberals who thinks it's a smoker's right to bother others as long as it's "within scope". Dumb as a rock doesn't even begin to tell the story.
Quote: TheNightflyJerry, what's it like being wrong all the time? Please let us know.
I'll be more than happy to report on that the moment someone comes on and tells us you're writhing in morphine-resistant pain from lung cancer, of course, through your own choice, since you say you'd be dead today if you weren't puffing away!
