HeyMrDJ
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August 9th, 2016 at 3:30:12 AM permalink
There was a story on 2+2 about 3 brothers who came to play the WSOP. They ended up getting 10k together and one of them played the main and won 90k ish. They copped it 3 ways and were flying back to Canada I think. The youngest one looks nervous, gets his bag searched, finds the 30k asks what it is, he says it's his third of a poker win. They pull the other two in, find the rest and it's taken because they didn't declare the money on the forms. I believe they never got it back.

My details might not be perfect from memory, but the story is close to how it went it down.
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AxelWolf
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August 9th, 2016 at 4:12:47 AM permalink
Not that I would ever travel with large amounts of cash (that's hard to do snapping up abandoned credits).

Recently after exiting the LV airport a TSA lady (looked more like a guy) was outside smoking, she seemed friendly at first, so I asked her about people I know traveling with large amounts of cash(her eyes immediately locked on my bag) she half ass'ed answered my questions, she didn't seem like the probing question. But Basically she said, yes they sometimes do confiscate cash.

She started heading back to her post. We quickly jumped into a cab and left so she didn't get any bright ideas and send someone to harass and wast my time just to find my hidden $3.50, stack of .1 cent slot tickets and my free drink coupons.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Romes
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August 9th, 2016 at 6:55:24 AM permalink
If you're staying within the US there isn't a limit on carrying amount.

If you're traveling outside of the US it's $10k I believe.

Last few times I've flown with $10-$12k I simply bundled it, held it in my hands over my head. 2/3 times the security officer didn't even ask to see the money (maybe he didn't see it in my hands). The other time he just asked to leaf it to make sure nothing was between the bills then returned it to me no questions asked.

You're not doing anything illegal going somewhere with your own money, so don't be nervous or act like it. On the flip side I'm always prepared for any run ins like this with copies of Bob Nersessian's books, old/recent W2's, other gambling books, etc. I think it helps a lot to hold it in your hands. If you bury it in your bag or something then it looks like you're trying to hide it. If it looks like you're trying to hide it then they get all suspicious. NEVER put it in a plastic bag or something in your bag (looks like you're trying to hide it / the sent from dogs).
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Nostron
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August 9th, 2016 at 7:46:11 AM permalink
I usually take 8 to 10k - have about 2k in my wallet - the rest in my carryon bag - never had problem or have it questioned.

It sux for the people that get hassled - my opinion is this is extremely rare
DJTeddyBear
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August 9th, 2016 at 8:00:27 AM permalink
I regularly fly to Vegas with $3K-$5K.

Frankly, I'm more concerned with unsavory type bystanders seeing that cash than the TSA agents.
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Joeshlabotnik
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August 9th, 2016 at 8:27:54 AM permalink
The key word here is "unusual." As in, unusual activity raises a red flag for law enforcement, of all types and in all situations. Someone traveling to or from Vegas with 2-5K in cash wouldn't raise any eyebrows. Paducah, Kentucky would be a different story. But when you get to amounts like $12K or $30K, as in some of those stories (and stories is all they are), then you're unusual even for a Vegas visitor, because the TSA agent would ask a legitimate question: Why are you carrying all this CASH? A normal prudent individual wouldn't do that. If you play to gamble heavily, you should carry some cash but the rest of your roll should be in front money at the cage (sent ahead of time), cashier's checks on your person, traveler's checks, etc. If you score a big win, you should take it in the form of a check, or convert the cash into a check.

That it is just plain stupid to travel with large amounts of cash raises the red flag for TSA. The only way a sensible person would want to deal in such large amounts in cash would be if he wants his transactions to be untraceable. This usually means drug trafficking and/or money laundering--two things that get the Feds riled up. So yes, the TSA might grab the money first and ask questions later.

Where this discussion goes off the rails is people "never getting the money back." They will get it back (assuming they can show that it isn't from illegal activity) eventually. Canadians and other foreign nationals simply have to declare large amounts of cash. If they don't, their cash can be confiscated, but they'll get it back, too. What happens in their home countries is something different altogether. But we have mutual treaties with most countries re how this exact situation should be handled.

But really, why would anyone risk coming to on the floor of a men's room stall, with a bleeding head and a splitting headache, and that carryon bag nowhere to be found? When one could be carrying a cashier's check in one's wallet instead?
gamerfreak
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August 9th, 2016 at 8:30:19 AM permalink
I also imagine APs, being the paranoid bunch that they are, would not want to use the casino's money services.
ncfatcat
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August 9th, 2016 at 8:48:10 AM permalink
There is a Bank of America in my home town and at least 2 branches of BoA in Vegas that I know about. I keep an account with BoA just for bankroll.
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RS
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August 9th, 2016 at 9:24:02 AM permalink
AFAIK, it can be difficult using a bank account for large cash transactions. Listen to gambling with an edge with the guest smallcapgrowth.
AxelWolf
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August 9th, 2016 at 10:12:19 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

If you're staying within the US there isn't a limit on carrying amount.

If you're traveling outside of the US it's $10k I believe.

Last few times I've flown with $10-$12k I simply bundled it, held it in my hands over my head. 2/3 times the security officer didn't even ask to see the money (maybe he didn't see it in my hands). The other time he just asked to leaf it to make sure nothing was between the bills then returned it to me no questions asked.

You're not doing anything illegal going somewhere with your own money, so don't be nervous or act like it. On the flip side I'm always prepared for any run ins like this with copies of Bob Nersessian's books, old/recent W2's, other gambling books, etc. I think it helps a lot to hold it in your hands. If you bury it in your bag or something then it looks like you're trying to hide it. If it looks like you're trying to hide it then they get all suspicious. NEVER put it in a plastic bag or something in your bag (looks like you're trying to hide it / the sent from dogs).

12k is one thing however what about 30k++ what about 100k? You willing to risk holding that in your hand? Keeping it in your bag shouldn't be suspicious because you wouldn't want the guy behind you following you once you got off the plane.

For those who think its perfectly safe for AP to take money though TSA offer up insurance you'll make a bundle of cash.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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