The Wolf of Wall Street.....
2.5 Stars out of 5.
In contrast, I can and do recommend the fantastic performances and character development in AMERICAN HUSTLE.
4 stars out of 5.
Saving Mr. Banks was pretty good, I thought, but it was a fair bit of a commercial for Mickey Mouse.
Quote: strictlyAPcouldn't agree more, I worked on wall street at that time, and the book was way better then the movie- way too long and focused on things that did not contribute to the basic story- I waited for this movie for 3 years and was there the first showing and walked out miserable
Here's an interesting comparison of the movie to the book to comments made by actual participants:
History-vs-Hollywood
I thought the movie whizzed by and there was never a dull moment. I enjoyed the lengthy drawn out drug scenes such as the "super quaaludes" scene. I thought it was simply brilliant.
I feel sorry for the people that got taken by this shark but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the movie. I thought Scorsese did a great job!
Quote: TomspurI feel sorry for the people that got taken by this shark but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the movie. I thought Scorsese did a great job!
How sorry do you feel for them? The movie is based on the guy's memoir, so he is getting paid for this movie. Kind of makes me uncomfortable that he is still profiting off of his misdeeds.
Quote: AcesAndEightsHow sorry do you feel for them? The movie is based on the guy's memoir, so he is getting paid for this movie. Kind of makes me uncomfortable that he is still profiting off of his misdeeds.
Jordan Belfort is required to give 50% of his income to accounts to reimburse those he rooked. His proceeds from the movie, his book royalties, and his income as a motivational speaker are considerable, but pale in comparison to what a large and successful brokerage firm and can earn (and steal).
Quote: PaigowdanJordan Belfort is required to give 50% of his income to accounts to reimburse those he rooked. His proceeds from the movie, his book royalties, and his income as a motivational speaker are considerable, but pale in comparison to what a large and successful brokerage firm and can earn (and steal).
This guy does motivational speeches? Who pays him to "motivate" them? Wall street types aspiring to be better narcicistic psychopaths?
Quote: Swanson234This guy does motivational speeches? Who pays him to "motivate" them? Wall street types aspiring to be better narcicistic psychopaths?
well he seemed to motivate a lot of people during his hayday. I knew he was in the end of the movie and I had no idea what he looked like. I was totally expecting this good looking suave guy. Then I saw him, he looks like a schlub. With all the woman and parties he has, it proves money can buy everything.
Quote: GWAEwell he seemed to motivate a lot of people during his hayday. I knew he was in the end of the movie and I had no idea what he looked like. I was totally expecting this good looking suave guy. Then I saw him, he looks like a schlub. With all the woman and parties he has, it proves money and confidence can buy everything.
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They say the hot girls like the bad boys, but what they like is confidence, which bad boys have in abundance. The average schlub doesn't. It worked for Belfort.
Quote: Swanson234This guy does motivational speeches? Who pays him to "motivate" them? Wall street types aspiring to be better narcicistic psychopaths?
This guy's no schlub.
In this area, Jordan Belfort is remarkable. He was able to sell anything to anyone, and get his legions of employees to do the same. This is why his old firm Stratton Oakmont had such power in moving stocks, some of it for illegal "pump and dump" operations. He has a corporate training system call the "Straight Line Persuasion System" that seems to work very effectively. He studied, developed, and codified sales techniques like a science.
See some of his youtube videos or his Corporate Training site.
Quote: PaigowdanJordan Belfort is required to give 50% of his income to accounts to reimburse those he rooked. His proceeds from the movie, his book royalties, and his income as a motivational speaker are considerable, but pale in comparison to what a large and successful brokerage firm and can earn (and steal).
Taken from celebrity net worth.com....
He defrauded his victims out of $200 million, was ordered to pay back $110 million in restitution to his victims, and has only paid back $12m to this date - which was mostly paid back through selling his properties he attained from the swindled money. He did under 2 years in a minimum security prison. In addition to all the royalties he got from his book and movie, he makes around 50k each motivational speech he does.
Wonder how many suicides due to financial loss are directly correlated to him? Wonder if he's ever killed anybody while high - he brags in his book about all the driving/flying/diving/pretty much everything he's done while drugged up like a maniac.
I hope this guy gets hit by a car. I'd like to be the one driving that car to be honest.
Quote: Swanson234Taken from celebrity net worth.com....
...Wonder how many suicides due to financial loss are directly correlated to him? Wonder if he's ever killed anybody while high - he brags in his book about all the driving/flying/diving/pretty much everything he's done while drugged up like a maniac.
I hope this guy gets hit by a car. I'd like to be the one driving that car to be honest.
This area - the legions of small investors who were destroyed believing Stratton Oakmont was 100% legitimate - wasn't really focused on in the media, and I would assume partly due to his great ability to sell, package, and persuade.
Quote: PaigowdanThis guy's no schlub.
In this area, Jordan Belfort is remarkable. He was able to sell anything to anyone, and get his legions of employees to do the same. This is why his old firm Stratton Oakmont had such power in moving stocks, some of it for illegal "pump and dump" operations. He has a corporate training system call the "Straight Line Persuasion System" that seems to work very effectively. He studied, developed, and codified sales techniques like a science.
See some of his youtube videos or his Corporate Training site.
It's typical that casino trash like yourself would envy such a guy.
Quote: Swanson234It's typical that casino trash like yourself would envy such a guy.
What?? I sure as hell do not, and I gave no praise to this man. He has remarkable abilities that he grossly misused. He's evil, and very good at what he does.
He was a drug addict, and slick-as-an-eel con artist. Would have made an awesome AP or cheat (he was a cheat on wall street), the wall street equivalent to Richard Marcus.
Quote: PaigowdanWhat?? I sure as hell do not, and I gave no praise to this man. He has remarkable abilities that he grossly misused. He's evil, and very good at what he does.
He was a drug addict, and slick-as-an-eel con artist. Would have made an awesome AP or cheat (he was a cheat on wall street), the wall street equivalent to Richard Marcus.
Haha an awesome AP or cheat?? Haha nice try conflating apples with oranges. Screw his showmanship, I see a pig with lipstick. Vegas has a lot of flashing lights and grandiosity to it, it's still the suicide capital of the country. Lots of pigs, lots of lipstick.
APing is 100% legal. Cheating is a felony. Huge difference.
Running a gambling operation is a felony in many states. Running a gambling operation is 100% legal in Nevada. Huge difference.
Quote: Swanson234
It's typical that casino trash like yourself would envy such a guy.
By any chance were you one of Belfort's victims? Or maybe it's just that PGD said something you didn't agree with at some point in time?
Quote: Swanson234
It's typical that casino trash like yourself would envy such a guy.
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Quote: PaigowdanThis guy's no schlub.
In this area, Jordan Belfort is remarkable. He was able to sell anything to anyone, and get his legions of employees to do the same. This is why his old firm Stratton Oakmont had such power in moving stocks, some of it for illegal "pump and dump" operations. He has a corporate training system call the "Straight Line Persuasion System" that seems to work very effectively. He studied, developed, and codified sales techniques like a science.
See some of his youtube videos or his Corporate Training site.
So anyways..
I may have used the wrong word there. I have always referred to a Schlub as a unattractive type person. I see from the definition of schlub that it also means talentless. He definitely did not fall into that category.
I was expecting more of Tom Cruz type of guy and not a Milton from Office Space kinda guy.
