AZDuffman
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January 28th, 2011 at 5:28:48 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard


Two heart-breaking stories and two cars I would need to have shipped here. Certainly there are people in WA and MT who need a used car, especially one that is worth twice the asking price. Something smells fishy.

I'm posting this in the advice category, but am not sure if I'm asking for it or giving it. Anyone in Vegas with a decent car in the $4,000 range -- let me know.



Total sams. If a person wants to sell a car very cheap and fast there are plenty of lots they can drive to and take them. Nothing wrong with buying local on CL as opposed to looking in the classifieds. A buddy of mine almost fell for a scam like this. He was looking at a 1963 Falcon for $2400. I told him $2400 was what my dad paid for his in not as good shape in 1986! Same deal touugh, pay then I ship.

Just buy local unless you are buying a classic car, and if you are buying a classic, get a local broker who knows to help you.
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SFB
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January 28th, 2011 at 6:24:06 AM permalink
I beleive the site to check a VIN is Carfax.com.

Works well. $30 per VIN, I think.

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Nareed
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January 28th, 2011 at 6:44:47 AM permalink
I can only think of two things to say:

1) never buy a used car without looking it over first. if possible have a mechanic you trust givve it a once over. A car that seems and drives fine may be hanging by a thread and then need repairs in the thousands.

2) If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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pacomartin
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January 28th, 2011 at 7:21:45 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I can only think of two things to say:

1) never buy a used car without looking it over first. if possible have a mechanic you trust givve it a once over. A car that seems and drives fine may be hanging by a thread and then need repairs in the thousands.

2) If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.



I tried to sell a car on Craig's List, and I think I was overwhelmed by the number of scam artists who were contacting me. If they weren't scam artists, they were bottom feeders who wanted it for 50% to 75% off the blue book value.

I took it to a small auto dealer, and I had a perfectly simple/professional cash transaction for more money than I expected.
Nareed
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January 28th, 2011 at 7:41:05 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

I tried to sell a car on Craig's List, and I think I was overwhelmed by the number of scam artists who were contacting me. If they weren't scam artists, they were bottom feeders who wanted it for 50% to 75% off the blue book value.

I took it to a small auto dealer, and I had a perfectly simple/professional cash transaction for more money than I expected.



I once bought a car from a customer and long time friend of my dad's. The car seemed fine and it drove fine, but I did take it to the mechanic and he found several issues with it. Nothing major, and nothing the seller was trying to plam off on me, but it needed some work. I managed to knock down the price a few thousand pesos because of that. All done in a friendly and cordial fashion.

Last car I sold was to a dealer in trade for a new car. He gave me about the same as the used car lot offered, and a bit more than an acquaintance siad he'd pay for it.
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MathExtremist
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January 28th, 2011 at 7:55:34 AM permalink
Exhibit #1
Quote: Wizard

Reply #2

Hi,
I am selling this car because my battalion has been sent back to Afghanistan and don't want it get old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before February 7th. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title, clear, under my name. The Camry has 32,000 current miles VIN# 4T1BK46K07U027216.
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,840. The car is in Lakewood WA, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back.Below are the car details, also link with more photos and copy of carfax report. If the link doesn't work,copy and paste it into a new browser page.
Regards!!!



And Exhibit #2, from the Craigslist scams website at http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
Quote: Craigslist Scams page


Actual scam emails sent to craigslist users:

Hi,
I am selling this car because my platoon has been sent back to Afganistan and don't want it get old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before November 16th. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title , clear, under my name. The Denali has 35,000 miles VIN# 1GKEK63U16J138428 .
It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4,300. The car is in Baltimore, MD, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back.
Regards!!!



Reply #2 gets bonus points for lack of originality. You've been given other good advice so I won't repeat it, but it's a good thing your suspicions were raised.

Craigslist requests that users send them details of suspected scams. The link above has details.
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discflicker
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January 28th, 2011 at 12:03:00 PM permalink
Nice research, MathExtremist... very interesting, indeed!
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TIMSPEED
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January 28th, 2011 at 1:59:01 PM permalink
I've bought and sold a few cars on CraigsList...however, I have also LOOKED at a few cars that were complete jokes.
As with anything, just use common sense...if I were buying another car off CraigsList, I would NEVER buy one that wasn't local (although my cousin bought a 97 Corvette from SC, with no problems; aside: It was actually production #00013)
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EvenBob
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January 28th, 2011 at 3:32:35 PM permalink
I've bought 5 cars over the years at car auctions and have always got a good car and a good deal. The trick is to look for low mileage cars with manual transmissions and crank windows. They go for far less than the exact same car with a automatic and power windows. Nobody wants a manual tranny anymore. I got a 2000 Saturn in 2004 with 45K miles on it for $2000, I kid you not. I got it for my daughter who dang well learned to drive it.
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teddys
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January 28th, 2011 at 4:14:18 PM permalink
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Offers to ship cars are 100% fraudulent. No ifs or buts about it. Don't even think about it.
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