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FleaStiff
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August 10th, 2017 at 2:25:54 PM permalink
Many people use electronic services for the same reason they no longer use typewriters or quill pens. Efficiency. See ten to twenty photos and not have to even lick the olive in a singles bar.

Ofcourse one man posted his profile as Member Canadian Seal Pub Hunt. He married the woman who answered his post but of course she knew it was a put on.

Its still a hit and miss operation. Men look at photos first, women look at likes and dislikes first.

Then of course there is that novelist who met a man in Cleveland, a week later sent him an airline ticket to Florida and told him she would be at the airport hotel just so she wouldn't have to endure the twenty minute delay in his getting from the airport to her place.

Or The Divine Miss M who met a man in a Vegas bar, married him within two weeks at some wedding chappel and has been with him for decades.
mcallister3200
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August 10th, 2017 at 2:57:04 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Girls use dating sites because similar to guys it's unfortunately the best place to meet new people once you're out of school/college. Think about it... I work a 9-5, have AP, have a house and a dog, what time do I have to go out and meet someone 'at a bar' or at the grocery store? First, I don't want to meet my future wife at a bar, not that I would be against meeting someone at a bar anyways, but I don't have high hopes in my 30's for meeting a quality girl to marry at a bar. Not saying it's impossible, just improbable. Next, most women have definitely adapted the "F YOU" tattoo on their forehead in public. I'm an in shape younger guy, but I swear if I even look at a girl in public she's instantly afraid I'm stalking her or going to rape her. Guys just can't talk to girls in public anymore (for the most part) due to women being terrified of every single guy. So online women feel safe because they can talk to you without you being physically present. Also, you get pictures, a bio, etc so you can learn a bit more about the person before ever meeting them (being physically vulnerable).

Not only that, but online dating is SKEWED very very much for women. Any kind of decent looking female will get a dozen new messages per day and essentially have her pick of the litter. Thus, online dating is PERFECT for the "perfect" girl because she can pick and choose exactly who she wants to meet with exactly whatever amount of interaction/chatting before meeting she desires.

All that being said, I think online dating is pretty much a joke... This pick of the litter stuff commonly leads to the "next shiny object" syndrome where women just drop conversations all the time and move on to the next shiny object they get a message from the next day.

I ran an experiment with online dating when I was using it a lot (hey, I'm a scientist...). I sent 100 "qualified" messages to 100 girls I was at least moderately attracted to, and didn't worry about other stuff in their profile that would be disqualifies even. A qualified message is at least 2-3 sentences long, giving a compliment, and highlighting commonalities or interest we share, then asking a question to encourage conversation. Of those 100 messages:

- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.

This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"

After that I disappointment, I of course had to run the experiment the other way... I sent out around 50 "hey, wanna hook up?" messages and got a 75% return message rate (as opposed to HALF that sending a 'qualified' message). Half of those responses were "no, blah blah blah" but even of those "no's" it led to conversations that led to potential meetings! After this experiment it's baffling to me that people still "try" with online dating. It's a joke and is goin to fail once ever guy realizes they'll have better odds saying "wanna hook up?" and women will not get the pedestal treatment they get put on anymore online since all guys just wanna hook up (as a result of their previous shiny object syndrome).



I read the first paragraph And if it's headed where I think it was headed, here's a guide to what to look for to get about the best realistic possibility in dating American or Americanized women.

Last edited by: mcallister3200 on Aug 10, 2017
odiousgambit
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August 10th, 2017 at 3:05:47 PM permalink
speaking of eharmony though, somebody clued me in to observing just how creepy the guy is who founded it - he likes to show up in the commercials.

So I started paying attention and, yeah, that guy is creepy. That he might be some perv is easy to believe.
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onenickelmiracle
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September 15th, 2017 at 12:09:53 AM permalink
Just saw the commercial, with a wide angle shot, she is a little bit fuller figured than I had assumed. Her butt is twice as big as his, guess you can say mystery solved. I still the think the dude is a little too dainty and feminine looking for her.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
onenickelmiracle
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September 15th, 2017 at 12:15:44 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

speaking of eharmony though, somebody clued me in to observing just how creepy the guy is who founded it - he likes to show up in the commercials.

So I started paying attention and, yeah, that guy is creepy. That he might be some perv is easy to believe.

I'm not sure I see it. Very dorky and fos, is what I think. EHarmony was on Adam Ruins everything, short story, they make stuff up and they mislead people in commercials. The whole site is just fiction, really just a sales presentation, cannot be proven to be anything special or better than any other site.
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Romes
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September 15th, 2017 at 7:38:50 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

...And when you are single and in your mid-30s you have to accept baggage in a companion or have to have alot of money...

I suppose this is the main deal breaker for me. I'm never going to "settle" for someone who can't offer a relationship the same things that I can. I have no problem with some baggage, but I won't date someone with kids, smoker, or someone I don't find rather attractive. I'm quite happy and at peace with my life though and actually think that if I never get in a serious relationship again, I'd be okay with that. Got my house and my dog, what more could a guy need? (p.s. not saying I wouldn't go out with some girls just to go out and have fun... the thirst always wins).

Quote: AxelWolf

...Have you been successful with Grinder, Romes?

You just wish I was on there, as you frantically search for my profile every day I bet.

Quote: rxwine

Usually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date...

Yeah, I've thought of this too. Though most of my friends are married and their friends are married or spoken for. There's very little cross-over leading to them having a single friend that I'm attracted to enough to date and risk my main friendship =P. Kind of a "don't poop where you eat" sort of thing. Again though, I'm not against it, just haven't had the best luck with that in the past as they usually have some form of "baggage" as mentioned above.

Quote: FleaStiff

...Or The Divine Miss M who met a man in a Vegas bar, married him within two weeks at some wedding chappel and has been with him for decades.

Yeah, but I'd LOVE to know the odds on someone getting married in less than 3 months of meeting someone and how that works out. I'd imagine 90%+ of the time it doesn't not work out.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Romes
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September 15th, 2017 at 7:40:09 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I read the first paragraph And if it's headed where I think it was headed, here's a guide to what to look for to get about the best realistic possibility in dating American or Americanized women.

There's a 3rd dimensional axis to the graph not shown here though... baggage. Say I find a girl that is in the marriage zone... Not too crazy and what I consider to be hot. Quite often, she'll come with red flag baggage, such as kids... which might be find for some (to each their own) but it's just definitely not what I'm looking for.
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onenickelmiracle
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September 15th, 2017 at 11:00:19 AM permalink
Romes, sometimes kids makes a woman playable that would otherwise be unplayable. It's difficult to believe, Ive tried and it's scary. If you can be serious about them, if you think they're worth being serious about, it's worth it. If you're just taking advantage of a lonely milf, they're probably going to get pregnant again with your kid, the same way they did before. They'll tell you a story about how a condom broke, or didn't use one, screwing around with a guy, the same thing you're doing. Those are the women with kids to avoid and those are the women if you're sleeping with, you have to stop immediately.
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September 15th, 2017 at 11:11:23 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Usually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date. If she likes you, it's like a golden ticket.

Yep, that is how I met Mrs Q.

Mrs. Q was a friend of a friend of mine at work. I would also add that single girls know other single girls, so the "pool" is larger and getting an introduction vs a "cold-call" is extremely helpful.

Might be interesting to see a poll of how you met your wife. One of the other examples I saw in this poll was at church.
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September 15th, 2017 at 7:42:57 PM permalink
Kids are those little evil human people, usually just a few feet tall, right?
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