My question is, why does she even need eHarmony? After a while, I had to wonder if they're both women, but they don't have gays on the site and have a separate site apparently, so that's not the case. The girl just seems like a perfect catch for all men, I dont get it. Perhaps she needed a
But the general question I think you are asking is "why do gorgeous women need dating sites?"
There are women who are introverts who don't meet guys for whatever reason.
There are women who want to meet people who they wouldn't normally meet outside of their social circle.
There are women who have been burned meeting men in the usual way.
Fair enough that men use visual attractiveness as a key factor in attempting to date women, and that gorgeous women will have more opportunities than ugly women. All it means is that the distribution of attractiveness on dating sites like e-Harmony probably max out at 4-5 skewed towards the 1s.
That said, there are plenty of single 6s and 7s out there on those sites. If your Neanderthal brain can realize that looks go out the window long term in most cases then you can probably live quite easily with a 6 or 7 that takes care of themselves vs a 9 that doesn't. And for women in their early 20s there are plenty of attractive women who are going to turn out to be 3s and 4s soon down the road. My advice is to meet the parents as that will give you big genetic clues on what she is going to look like.
I had limited online dating experience 20 years ago, and let me say it was interesting. It did not last long (I eventually fell for someone I met at the Starbucks at my workplace). But one of the five that I dated sounded extremely attractive and she had a great personality. Unfortunately I could not get past her looks - she was quite obese and her pictures of course did not show that. Other more attractive women I generally didn't do well with (they were out there) because I lacked confidence in myself.
The commercial isn't pulled, it's still airing. It was just pulled from the website I linked. It's funny, these people on the commercial keep repeating they've met and married the perfect match. That's dangerous and ridiculous to me. We've all heard stories how the best matches are prearranged marriages, real love, because they didn't even know each other, etc., not sure.Quote: boymimboFirst, she's likely a paid model. Likely the commercial got pulled because Natalie Cole died.
But the general question I think you are asking is "why do gorgeous women need dating sites?"
There are women who are introverts who don't meet guys for whatever reason.
There are women who want to meet people who they wouldn't normally meet outside of their social circle.
There are women who have been burned meeting men in the usual way.
Fair enough that men use visual attractiveness as a key factor in attempting to date women, and that gorgeous women will have more opportunities than ugly women. All it means is that the distribution of attractiveness on dating sites like e-Harmony probably max out at 4-5 skewed towards the 1s.
That said, there are plenty of single 6s and 7s out there on those sites. If your Neanderthal brain can realize that looks go out the window long term in most cases then you can probably live quite easily with a 6 or 7 that takes care of themselves vs a 9 that doesn't. And for women in their early 20s there are plenty of attractive women who are going to turn out to be 3s and 4s soon down the road. My advice is to meet the parents as that will give you big genetic clues on what she is going to look like.
I had limited online dating experience 20 years ago, and let me say it was interesting. It did not last long (I eventually fell for someone I met at the Starbucks at my workplace). But one of the five that I dated sounded extremely attractive and she had a great personality. Unfortunately I could not get past her looks - she was quite obese and her pictures of course did not show that. Other more attractive women I generally didn't do well with (they were out there) because I lacked confidence in myself.
So if you're saying she is a paid model, the whole commercial is fake or a recreation and dramatization. I never suspected this, thought they were real couples.
I dont really participate on those sites, just look, never get involved. I think it's an embarrassment and a commoditization and pimping of people, totally unnecessary. Ying and yang don't need a computer to pair up, they'll do fine by themselves, or not, as it should be. People are stupid thinking they need them.
Agreed about looking at the mother, it's almost always sad. Think the rare cases, the mothers only still look good because of plastic surgery and cosmetic enhancements. The male brain and body and attitude changes by that point I assume, so looking ahead won't even matter. Your wife is going to have a mustache she refuses to shave and a big old caboose.
This girl from the commercial is a 10, brains and gorgeous looks though. She definitely did not need that site to get herself a hairy, little petite man(I've never called a man petite before lol). She didn't need the site, maybe people get so used to buying online, when it comes to their futures, they get scared if they can't do it online, thinking they're not getting the absolute best deals. She is still in her 20s I think, so not like she was going to be left in the cold.
The Ashley Madison revelation that the site membership could be almost entirely men in spite of free cost for women to join is another good one. That's the extramarital affairs website for would-be adulterers. Apparently the hacking that took place didn't settle the matter due to fake female accounts created by the company itself, see link. The number of real women could be "minuscule" according to the article.Quote: wizardI've been asking the same question about heyjude2222 for years
The proportion of women who cheat can't be so minuscule, but I think this is just about the last way they generally would go about it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/11827581/Was-Ashley-Madison-populated-almost-entirely-by-men.html
There was a platinum blonde in my bowling league when I was single. I told my teammate "She would look great on the back of my Harley" to which he replied "You don't have a Harley". So deflating.
And full disclosure, I met my wife on Eharmony and we are a great match. Been together nine years and have yet to have a fight. Yes, she is blonde but not platinum :)
I met my wife on a dating site, but it was a free site. I always thought meeting women online was a 100 times easier than in real life.
- a beautiful woman with an average-looking guy and the woman saying how happy she was to have met her husband on e-harmony. This would be targeted to male audiences. (The ad that started this thread.)
- a good-looking, intelligent looking man with a more ordinary looking woman - in a setting that emphasizes that the man is at least reasonably well-paid and reasonably successful. The couple might be a few years older than in the first ad. The man would be saying how lucky he was to have used E-harmony and found her. This ad would be used on shows with predominately female audiences.
Contrast her with a sexy spokeswoman, the AT&T girl, "Lily:"
I read an article not too long ago, it said something about sex not selling anymore(I'm not sure I believe that)Quote: MrVThey say "sex sells," but Flo, the character touting Progressive insurance is not sexy, yet she's popular.
Contrast her with a sexy spokeswoman, the AT&T girl, "Lily:"
I think the main point was....it doesn't sell products as well as it once did. I think they said that's why Carl's JR. Is no longer going the sexy rout.
Things are "different" there.
Quote: AxelWolfI read an article not too long ago, it said something about sex not selling anymore(I'm not sure I believe that)
No? Remember Rhapsody? I do, and for no other reason than Meghan Miller.
@MrV - PM? I've something for you.
We need to have a petition to stop her chest from being oppressed. You can hardly tell on the commercials. I was blessed with a girl like that once and it was amazing. I thought she was obese, but it was just her boobs filling her sweater.Quote: MrVThey say "sex sells," but Flo, the character touting Progressive insurance is not sexy, yet she's popular.
Contrast her with a sexy spokeswoman, the AT&T girl, "Lily:"
As for hot girls, it's not as easy for them as it seems at a glance. By an act of devine intervention I dated a high end stripper through most of college.
Many of her friends dated guys even less desirable than myself. I remember one of her cutest friends was waiting for a guy to get out of prison for drugs. I imagined this guy being Vin Diesel. I finally met him and he was this dork with a giant head and the personality of a paper weight.
Yeah, a lot of guys try to bang them. But many normal guys are afraid to approach them. Ultimately, finding someone with common interests, personality, intelligence level, etc etc is not that much easier.
Throw your bread crumbs freely out upon the water; sooner or later a bird will take the bait.
That is so true and so funny. A friend of mine believed it, and has been rejected 1000s of times in a row. He finally found a girl to hang around with, that waited until she had to beg, then got so sickened by him as time passed, she lost 100 pounds, got married and put on 150.Quote: MrVA guy wanting to score with babes needs to keep two words in mind: "Just ask."
Throw your bread crumbs freely out upon the water; sooner or later a bird will take the bait.
Quote: onenickelmiracleApparently backpage has a dating section and the girls even post their phone numbers. This lady nsfw must be having her phone ring off the hook. If there are grave diggers, are there grave undiggers that freed a zombie? Not bad for partially decomposed grandma.
If she's 50, she was rode hard and put up wet for 40 of them. I would guess 62-65. Otherwise, good luck to her in her search for kink.
Not only that, but online dating is SKEWED very very much for women. Any kind of decent looking female will get a dozen new messages per day and essentially have her pick of the litter. Thus, online dating is PERFECT for the "perfect" girl because she can pick and choose exactly who she wants to meet with exactly whatever amount of interaction/chatting before meeting she desires.
All that being said, I think online dating is pretty much a joke... This pick of the litter stuff commonly leads to the "next shiny object" syndrome where women just drop conversations all the time and move on to the next shiny object they get a message from the next day.
I ran an experiment with online dating when I was using it a lot (hey, I'm a scientist...). I sent 100 "qualified" messages to 100 girls I was at least moderately attracted to, and didn't worry about other stuff in their profile that would be disqualifies even. A qualified message is at least 2-3 sentences long, giving a compliment, and highlighting commonalities or interest we share, then asking a question to encourage conversation. Of those 100 messages:
- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.
This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"
After that I disappointment, I of course had to run the experiment the other way... I sent out around 50 "hey, wanna hook up?" messages and got a 75% return message rate (as opposed to HALF that sending a 'qualified' message). Half of those responses were "no, blah blah blah" but even of those "no's" it led to conversations that led to potential meetings! After this experiment it's baffling to me that people still "try" with online dating. It's a joke and is goin to fail once ever guy realizes they'll have better odds saying "wanna hook up?" and women will not get the pedestal treatment they get put on anymore online since all guys just wanna hook up (as a result of their previous shiny object syndrome).
But when it comes to social interaction, you can do better off but unfortunately it requires severe baggage like a pet or children. Off the top of my head the most social interaction I have with women are at the workplace, at the grocery store, or at the casino when there are commonalities to talk about. At the workplace it's pretty simple. At the grocery store it's usually in the checkout line or assisting someone with a price or finding an item (this one's a better deal and there's a coupon over there) can start an interaction. And at the casino, you can talk about how their night is going, etc. And of course there is the "single friend" of a friend deal.
And when you are single and in your mid-30s you have to accept baggage in a companion or have to have alot of money. 20 somethings will not look at you unless you can offer them a free pass and a good time at your expense. And those left in their 30s are either divorced with younger children, have large mental blocks or are are extremely ugly (either in looks or personality).
But I agree that putting out an extremely wide net is the only way you will find success in the dating site world, which means alot of work for the men.
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I was playing in the casino the other day next to an older lady (she seems to be at least 60) and what seemed to be a younger co-worker. I assume they were here attending a convention or something because they had on business dress attire. I was surprised when I heard the younger girl ask the older lady if she had been on Tinder lately and she answered yes. I was under the impression Tinder was a hookup site?
Have you been successful with Grinder, Romes?
Many couples have met, and still do meet, at church and church-related activities.
But what of non-believers?
The closest thing atheists have to a church is a casino, but casinos aren't conducive to meeting new folks: its denizens are in the midst of a gambling mood, not a quasi-romantic one, and there seems to be a gulf between the two.
Quote: MrVChurches have long served a dual purpose: spiritual nourishment and social lubricant.
Many couples have met, and still do meet, at church and church-related activities.
Extremely true.
Quote: Romes
- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.
This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"
Usually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date. If she likes you, it's like a golden ticket.
Unless she already burned her friend a couple times..
Doesn't mean it will work out in the long run though.
Quote: boymimbo
But when it comes to social interaction, you can do better off but unfortunately it requires severe baggage like a pet or children.
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It is effing amazing how many people just have kids with random people now, like adopting puppies.
Tons of otherwise attractive young women with the caveat that you'll have to raise some other guy's children.
I guess a lot of guys just have to bite the bullet, but then they probably bail after they've had some sex and companionship and it starts to get to the point where they're on the hook for braces or college. Or they want to have their own family.
Then everybody's back to square one.
Or, alternatively, nobody really cares about the kids that much in the first place. Then they start popping out kids with random people.
If I was young and wanted to meet a wife, I think I'd get certified to teach English in other countries.
Quote: MrVThe closest thing atheists have to a church is a casino
Quote of the year.
Quote:Gangs are using bloody car seats to lure female motorists out of their vehicles as part of a "National Gang Week" activity
(snopes item)
I didn't even know there was a "National Gang Week."
I just don't keep up.
I assume if it was a bloody car seat, it might be too late. Seriously though, if I see something on the highway, I will probably use my cell phone. You stop for someone in the middle of nowhere, next thing you know, you're part of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre IV"
Ofcourse one man posted his profile as Member Canadian Seal Pub Hunt. He married the woman who answered his post but of course she knew it was a put on.
Its still a hit and miss operation. Men look at photos first, women look at likes and dislikes first.
Then of course there is that novelist who met a man in Cleveland, a week later sent him an airline ticket to Florida and told him she would be at the airport hotel just so she wouldn't have to endure the twenty minute delay in his getting from the airport to her place.
Or The Divine Miss M who met a man in a Vegas bar, married him within two weeks at some wedding chappel and has been with him for decades.
Quote: RomesGirls use dating sites because similar to guys it's unfortunately the best place to meet new people once you're out of school/college. Think about it... I work a 9-5, have AP, have a house and a dog, what time do I have to go out and meet someone 'at a bar' or at the grocery store? First, I don't want to meet my future wife at a bar, not that I would be against meeting someone at a bar anyways, but I don't have high hopes in my 30's for meeting a quality girl to marry at a bar. Not saying it's impossible, just improbable. Next, most women have definitely adapted the "F YOU" tattoo on their forehead in public. I'm an in shape younger guy, but I swear if I even look at a girl in public she's instantly afraid I'm stalking her or going to rape her. Guys just can't talk to girls in public anymore (for the most part) due to women being terrified of every single guy. So online women feel safe because they can talk to you without you being physically present. Also, you get pictures, a bio, etc so you can learn a bit more about the person before ever meeting them (being physically vulnerable).
Not only that, but online dating is SKEWED very very much for women. Any kind of decent looking female will get a dozen new messages per day and essentially have her pick of the litter. Thus, online dating is PERFECT for the "perfect" girl because she can pick and choose exactly who she wants to meet with exactly whatever amount of interaction/chatting before meeting she desires.
All that being said, I think online dating is pretty much a joke... This pick of the litter stuff commonly leads to the "next shiny object" syndrome where women just drop conversations all the time and move on to the next shiny object they get a message from the next day.
I ran an experiment with online dating when I was using it a lot (hey, I'm a scientist...). I sent 100 "qualified" messages to 100 girls I was at least moderately attracted to, and didn't worry about other stuff in their profile that would be disqualifies even. A qualified message is at least 2-3 sentences long, giving a compliment, and highlighting commonalities or interest we share, then asking a question to encourage conversation. Of those 100 messages:
- 38 responses
- 17 lasted past 1 or 2 messages
- 9 lasted past a couple days of messaging
- 3 led to exchanging phone numbers
- I went on 2 disappointing dates.
This took months and constant effort to check online and message people back promptly before they got shiny object syndrome. I've also got to figure I've got a 1 up on your average guy... Good job, house, car, athletic, and have a bunch of hobbies. None the less, failure... Thus, it's also why guys online usually just try to hookup. There's a HIGHER SUCCESS RATE for putting in ZERO EFFORT other than "hey wanna hook up?"
After that I disappointment, I of course had to run the experiment the other way... I sent out around 50 "hey, wanna hook up?" messages and got a 75% return message rate (as opposed to HALF that sending a 'qualified' message). Half of those responses were "no, blah blah blah" but even of those "no's" it led to conversations that led to potential meetings! After this experiment it's baffling to me that people still "try" with online dating. It's a joke and is goin to fail once ever guy realizes they'll have better odds saying "wanna hook up?" and women will not get the pedestal treatment they get put on anymore online since all guys just wanna hook up (as a result of their previous shiny object syndrome).
I read the first paragraph And if it's headed where I think it was headed, here's a guide to what to look for to get about the best realistic possibility in dating American or Americanized women.
So I started paying attention and, yeah, that guy is creepy. That he might be some perv is easy to believe.
I'm not sure I see it. Very dorky and fos, is what I think. EHarmony was on Adam Ruins everything, short story, they make stuff up and they mislead people in commercials. The whole site is just fiction, really just a sales presentation, cannot be proven to be anything special or better than any other site.Quote: odiousgambitspeaking of eharmony though, somebody clued me in to observing just how creepy the guy is who founded it - he likes to show up in the commercials.
So I started paying attention and, yeah, that guy is creepy. That he might be some perv is easy to believe.
I suppose this is the main deal breaker for me. I'm never going to "settle" for someone who can't offer a relationship the same things that I can. I have no problem with some baggage, but I won't date someone with kids, smoker, or someone I don't find rather attractive. I'm quite happy and at peace with my life though and actually think that if I never get in a serious relationship again, I'd be okay with that. Got my house and my dog, what more could a guy need? (p.s. not saying I wouldn't go out with some girls just to go out and have fun... the thirst always wins).Quote: boymimbo...And when you are single and in your mid-30s you have to accept baggage in a companion or have to have alot of money...
You just wish I was on there, as you frantically search for my profile every day I bet.Quote: AxelWolf...Have you been successful with Grinder, Romes?
Yeah, I've thought of this too. Though most of my friends are married and their friends are married or spoken for. There's very little cross-over leading to them having a single friend that I'm attracted to enough to date and risk my main friendship =P. Kind of a "don't poop where you eat" sort of thing. Again though, I'm not against it, just haven't had the best luck with that in the past as they usually have some form of "baggage" as mentioned above.Quote: rxwineUsually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date...
Yeah, but I'd LOVE to know the odds on someone getting married in less than 3 months of meeting someone and how that works out. I'd imagine 90%+ of the time it doesn't not work out.Quote: FleaStiff...Or The Divine Miss M who met a man in a Vegas bar, married him within two weeks at some wedding chappel and has been with him for decades.
There's a 3rd dimensional axis to the graph not shown here though... baggage. Say I find a girl that is in the marriage zone... Not too crazy and what I consider to be hot. Quite often, she'll come with red flag baggage, such as kids... which might be find for some (to each their own) but it's just definitely not what I'm looking for.Quote: mcallister3200I read the first paragraph And if it's headed where I think it was headed, here's a guide to what to look for to get about the best realistic possibility in dating American or Americanized women.
Yep, that is how I met Mrs Q.Quote: rxwineUsually, the best dating recommendation you can get is if you know the friend of the female you want to date. If she likes you, it's like a golden ticket.
Mrs. Q was a friend of a friend of mine at work. I would also add that single girls know other single girls, so the "pool" is larger and getting an introduction vs a "cold-call" is extremely helpful.
Might be interesting to see a poll of how you met your wife. One of the other examples I saw in this poll was at church.