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wannabedealer
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February 21st, 2016 at 5:47:32 PM permalink
Hi guys. I have been around watching your forum for several years, nothing but respect for the depth of knowledge here. I have recently moved to Las Vegas and I am looking to try to get started dealing. I have been privately trained, know the game exceptionally well and I believe I am ready to try to get an audition.

What Casinos should I be looking at to try to get my first break-in opportunity? I appreciate any advice or suggestions.

I have a short list of possible locations, but know that I am probably guessing wrong.

Thanks in advance for your input.
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February 21st, 2016 at 6:25:33 PM permalink
Quote: wannabedealer

Hi guys. I have been around watching your forum for several years, nothing but respect for the depth of knowledge here. I have recently moved to Las Vegas and I am looking to try to get started dealing. I have been privately trained, know the game exceptionally well and I believe I am ready to try to get an audition.

What Casinos should I be looking at to try to get my first break-in opportunity? I appreciate any advice or suggestions.

I have a short list of possible locations, but know that I am probably guessing wrong.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Wow! Lots of brand new posters over the last couple of days. This one says he knows the game exceptionally well. Which game would that be? Let's hear from the casino employees here on this one. I thought you needed to know most all of the games, pretty well. Did I miss something?
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February 21st, 2016 at 7:05:33 PM permalink
Why don't you post your list here and let the locals comment on it.
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wannabedealer
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February 21st, 2016 at 7:31:14 PM permalink
Thank you for the early replies. You asked which game I was referring to...I am talking exclusively about Craps. I am coached up on all procedures and game protections, as well as the paying and collection processes. I know the bets and payouts inside and out.

Unfortunately, I do not know the other two primary games (Blackjack and Roulette) well enough from a procedure standpoint yet. I have been told that a good dice dealer though can get in on that alone. Is that not true?

The locations I am already considering are (in no particular order): El Cortez, Arizona Charlie's Boulder and Decatur, Aliante, Plaza, California, Fremont, Jerry's Nugget, Fiesta Rancho and Henderson.
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February 21st, 2016 at 7:49:07 PM permalink
A bit out of date, but see .

Also, see .
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February 21st, 2016 at 8:23:27 PM permalink
Joker's Wild. Located in wonderful Henderson. Hobnob with $1 craps players.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 2:34:25 AM permalink
El Cortez
Jokes wild
Boulder station
Arizona Charlie's
Jerry Nugget

If you're a really good break in, Aliante, Sunset Station, mayyybe palace station.

With 6 months to 1 year experience can probably get hired at any off-strip casino. Probably 1-2 years for on-strip (lower end) like Excalibur NYNY etc. Then Caesars/bellagio/etc. probably looking at 5+ years experience, UNLESS you have some juice. If you got juice, well.....I've seen some really bad dealers at Wynn, Cosmo, and Caesars.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 4:40:29 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

... he knows the game exceptionally well. Which game would that be? ... Did I miss something?

Yeah, you missed something. You missed the topic of this thread.


Quote: wannabedealer

Unfortunately, I do not know the other two primary games (Blackjack and Roulette) well enough from a procedure standpoint yet. I have been told that a good dice dealer though can get in on that alone. Is that not true?

Although I have no firsthand experience, it is my understanding that a dice dealer often does get hired just for dice, and based only on his dice knowledge / audition.

Good luck!
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February 22nd, 2016 at 10:27:27 AM permalink
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Although I have no firsthand experience, it is my understanding that a dice dealer often does get hired just for dice, and based only on his dice knowledge / audition.



I would agree with this because very few dealers take the time to learn craps. Blackjack is so easy to learn and the most common game so many people only learn that to get in the door of their first job.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 12:27:24 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Blackjack is so easy to learn and the most common game so many people only learn that to get in the door of their first job.



And it probably wouldn't be a bad fall-back plan.

Invest a few hours watching the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmM3CjMPuz8

And then a few dollars in a dozen decks of cards and know how to do all the common shuffle steps.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 12:27:30 PM permalink
I know for Boyd gaming if you like a dealer at one of these break in joints you can call up human resources and give them a positive report and they put what is known as a blue flag on their profile which can help them move up faster.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 1:01:48 PM permalink
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I know for Boyd gaming if you like a dealer at one of these break in joints you can call up human resources and give them a positive report and they put what is known as a blue flag on their profile which can help them move up faster.

I notice that at Joker's Wild the dealers never stay that long. Some of them are really very good. I notice 6-12 months is the norm for a stint there. Then they move on to Sam's Town/GC/Orleans/Downtown or wherever.

You won't find a better break in game. That table is ALWAYS packed. The players seem decent, too.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 1:30:43 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I notice that at Joker's Wild the dealers never stay that long. Some of them are really very good. I notice 6-12 months is the norm for a stint there. Then they move on to Sam's Town/GC/Orleans/Downtown or wherever.

You won't find a better break in game. That table is ALWAYS packed. The players seem decent, too.



Yes, break in joints turn over dealers constantly. A dealer is either good enough to move on or else they fail and get washed out.

When I first moved to Vegas in 1990 I was playing regularly downtown pretty much 10 hours a day. I got to know many of the pit people and one day the casino I was playing at was short on dealers. The pit boss came over to me while I was playing and asked me if I wanted to deal. I jumped behind the table and dealt for three weeks for him. Definitely not a job that I enjoyed.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 2:25:16 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Yes, break in joints turn over dealers constantly. A dealer is either good enough to move on or else they fail and get washed out.

When I first moved to Vegas in 1990 I was playing regularly downtown pretty much 10 hours a day. I got to know many of the pit people and one day the casino I was playing at was short on dealers. The pit boss came over to me while I was playing and asked me if I wanted to deal. I jumped behind the table and dealt for three weeks for him. Definitely not a job that I enjoyed.


Wow, same day? That's crazy. Did they print up a name tag for you on the spot?
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February 22nd, 2016 at 3:11:32 PM permalink
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Wow, same day? That's crazy. Did they print up a name tag for you on the spot?



Yes, literally just walked right behind a table and I just dealt in the clothes I had on the first night. The next few weeks I wore a white dress shirt and black pants. I really don't remember if I had a name tag or not. Let's just say that everything was handled "very informally".
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February 22nd, 2016 at 4:52:35 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Yes, literally just walked right behind a table and I just dealt in the clothes I had on the first night. The next few weeks I wore a white dress shirt and black pants. I really don't remember if I had a name tag or not. Let's just say that everything was handled "very informally".


Heh, understood.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 7:42:52 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

... I got to know many of the pit people and one day the casino I was playing at was short on dealers. The pit boss came over to me while I was playing and asked me if I wanted to deal. I jumped behind the table and dealt for three weeks for him. Definitely not a job that I enjoyed.

Wow. Hard to believe that could happen. I mean, aren't dealers required to get a license?

I understand that you don't want to name the casino, but what games were you dealing, and why didn't you enjoy it?
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February 22nd, 2016 at 8:52:22 PM permalink
to the thread orig, these days it is tough to be a one game dealer...you might get a break in joint to hire you just craps in vegas but most places these days want a table games dealer, not a craps dealer, roulette dealer etc.
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February 23rd, 2016 at 7:26:18 AM permalink
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to the thread orig, these days it is tough to be a one game dealer...you might get a break in joint to hire you just craps in vegas but most places these days want a table games dealer, not a craps dealer, roulette dealer etc.


The good news for OP is that craps is one of the hardest games to deal. So if it's true that he can deal craps competently, he should be able to learn the other games.
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February 23rd, 2016 at 1:16:52 PM permalink
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Wow. Hard to believe that could happen. I mean, aren't dealers required to get a license?

I understand that you don't want to name the casino, but what games were you dealing, and why didn't you enjoy it?



Let's just say that in 1990 smaller casinos weren't scrutinized as much as they should have been.

It was a downtown casino and I only dealt blackjack. First off, I don't like standing. Secondly, it is very rote and nothing intellectually challenging about it. I just did it to help out the pit boss and it was an interesting three weeks. I'm glad I did it, but wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a career.
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February 23rd, 2016 at 1:35:51 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Let's just say that in 1990 smaller casinos weren't scrutinized as much as they should have been.

It was a downtown casino and I only dealt blackjack. First off, I don't like standing. Secondly, it is very rote and nothing intellectually challenging about it. I just did it to help out the pit boss and it was an interesting three weeks. I'm glad I did it, but wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a career.


When I dealt charity poker, everyone wanted to deal blackjack when we got that in. After a week or so, nobody wanted to deal it.
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