Mistake in Vegas - Caught with Illegal Substance
August 23rd, 2015 at 6:02:24 PM
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There is no need to amend the constitution.
The only thing necessary is for Congress to pass legislation which removes marijuana from its current classification as a Schedule I substance.
Decriminalize it.
I can see this will be a very hot political issue in the coming years.
The only thing necessary is for Congress to pass legislation which removes marijuana from its current classification as a Schedule I substance.
Decriminalize it.
I can see this will be a very hot political issue in the coming years.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 6:11:56 PM
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In that case, posession, sale, etc. of pot could not technically be called a "right." Doing so would certainly diminish more than a few truly fundamental rights.Quote: MrVThere is no need to amend the constitution. The only thing necessary is for Congress to pass legislation which removes marijuana from its current classification as a Schedule I substance. Decriminalize it.
August 23rd, 2015 at 6:24:38 PM
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Quote: SanchoPanzaIn that case, posession, sale, etc. of pot could not technically be called a "right." Doing so would certainly diminish more than a few truly fundamental rights.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
How would removing marijuana as a Schedule I substance diminish one's fundamental right to life, liberty and property?
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August 23rd, 2015 at 6:46:59 PM
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The same way that Prohibition and its repeal required constitutional amendments.Quote: MrVHow would removing marijuana as a Schedule I substance diminish one's fundamental right to life, liberty and property?
August 23rd, 2015 at 6:49:15 PM
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Well, to be strictly constitutional about it, there is no legal way for the federal government to regulate marijuana or any other drug. The 10th amendment says:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Which means, if it isn't in the text of the constitution, the feds can't touch it (short of amending the constitution).
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Which means, if it isn't in the text of the constitution, the feds can't touch it (short of amending the constitution).
If government is the answer, it must have been a very stupid question.
August 23rd, 2015 at 7:24:37 PM
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Quote: SanchoPanzaThe same way that Prohibition and its repeal required constitutional amendments.
Ah, I see the basis for your erroneous thinking.
Prohibition began with the eighteenth amendment to the constitution, and ended with passage of the twenty-first amendment.
Marijuana has never been the subject of any constitutional amendment: it is legislative fiat.
Again, all congress needs to do is pass legislation removing marijuana from its classification as a Schedule I substance, no constitutional amendment is necessary.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 7:51:36 PM
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Quote: EvenBobLOL! I rest my case.. The experts are
all wrong, we have an expert witness.
Kinda sort of..
Why do they call it dope indeed..
Lol. I was wondering about that guy's posts. Well, wait... not really. A little thing called being "too sharp".
I can't believe what I believe.
August 23rd, 2015 at 10:09:41 PM
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Quote: MrVI'm sorry, but I don't understand.
How would removing marijuana as a Schedule I substance diminish one's fundamental right to life, liberty and property?
Quote: HarryReidWhen asked, Reid said he supports removing marijuana from the list of "Schedule 1" drugs that the federal government officially considers to have no medicinal use.
The conflict between federal and state laws has increased as more states legalize medical marijuana, as Nevada has done, or even recreational marijuana, as Nevada could do next year.
"We can't have these places all over the country where they're trying to make medicinal marijuana available and then have federal law that's in opposition to that, so I think it should be changed," Reid said.
http://rjnews.is/HarryReidRJ
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:20:19 PM
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OK, so let's assume that the law changes such that marijuana is legalized, and may be publicly consumed, subject to the same regulations as alcoho..
My question: would it behoove casinos to dole it out for free to gamblers like they do alcohol?
My question: would it behoove casinos to dole it out for free to gamblers like they do alcohol?
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:36:23 PM
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Why would they have to? You'd be able to grow your own and bring your own.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:37:52 PM
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Yes, but if the casinos could offer it to gamblers, the same as they now do alcohol: would it likely help their bottom line, or hurt it?
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:39:45 PM
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Quote: MrVYes, but if the casinos could offer it to gamblers, the same as they now do alcohol: would it likely help their bottom line, or hurt it?
Probably hurt it. Everything would slow to a snail's pace. But that's just a guess.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:54:17 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesProbably hurt it. Everything would slow to a snail's pace. But that's just a guess.
This is an area of research I have been looking into. I am also guessing but I have my own conclusions.
I used to talk about this at the craps table a bit how marijuana might actually make a gambler more cautious or paranoid and result in Harold and Kumar or similar Hollywood portrayals of slow-moving simple minded and/or cautious characters who only have a couple bucks to do anything with.
But through my research, I have found that people who gamble under the influence of marijuana are ABSOLUTELY more likely to put more money at risk than someone who is completely stone-cold sober.
I believe that energy drinks are the drink they don't want you to have of all the free stuff they dole out.
My theory is that marijuana puts your self-consciousness aside a little bit and enables you to detach from reality just enough to want to explore things that normally would feel too scary to even think about.
I am really only guessing here, too, but as a player who has experience with marijuana while developing and playing video games at Atari, I know about the video gaming experience immersion factor while being stoned is different than being sober (in a good way). Alcohol reduces your ability to perform skilled moves in a video game that doesn't really happen with marijuana.
The schedule-1 classification is the only hurdle between having marijuana in the casinos. But my understanding is that gaming authorities rejected associations between businesses that do gaming and businesses that do marijuana. And it's all about the feds that there will be this wall until schedule 1 is dealt with.
I do personally believe that marijuana use preceding a gambling session is going to be good for business.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 10:55:05 PM
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Quote: MrVOK, so let's assume that the law changes such that marijuana is legalized, and may be publicly consumed, subject to the same regulations as alcoho..
My question: would it behoove casinos to dole it out for free to gamblers like they do alcohol?
Casinos may win some on the gambling but could lose their asses on the buffet
August 23rd, 2015 at 10:57:26 PM
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Quote: petroglyphCasinos may win some on the gambling but could lose their asses on the buffet
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August 23rd, 2015 at 11:04:54 PM
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I'm certain there are many people high while gambling here in Detroit.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 11:13:25 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI'm certain there are many people high while gambling here in Detroit.
In my research, I'm specifically looking for stoned gambling here in Vegas. It's around but hard to be certain.
There are some times you can smell what seems like a gigantic bag of weed in a guy's pants that are down around his ankles.
I've seen this twice at Silverton even. But you can see it at Jerry's Nugget, and some other places where the fact that marijuana is on someone's person is relatively obvious and accepted.
That is not typical here in Vegas and hasn't been. But this year the changes have been noticeable, and they should get more noticeable as the tourists are now going to be included and not just the locals that are not afraid of weedmaps and getting caught buying illegally.
I don't forsee a floodgate of marijuana arriving on casino floors. And I don't think that any dealers or pits are expecting ANYTHING different tomorrow. But I do think there will be a gradual change of acceptance, especially if we can get word of intentions to change the schedule-1 status.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 11:27:21 PM
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Anecdotally, my biggest losses have come while gambling stoned.
I throw caution to the winds, and smile as the ship sinks.
This is especially so when I G.U.I. of weed and opioids (prescription).
Not surprisingly, for me anyway, I pretty much avoid craps and stick to machines when high.
I throw caution to the winds, and smile as the ship sinks.
This is especially so when I G.U.I. of weed and opioids (prescription).
Not surprisingly, for me anyway, I pretty much avoid craps and stick to machines when high.
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August 23rd, 2015 at 11:37:23 PM
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Quote: MrVAnecdotally, my biggest losses have come while gambling stoned.
I throw caution to the winds, and smile as the ship sinks.
This is especially so when I G.U.I. of weed and opioids (prescription).
Not surprisingly, for me anyway, I pretty much avoid craps and stick to machines when high.
Thanks for that data-point. And yes, I do agree, that casinos should absolutely encourage players to go get stoned (or just not say anything negative about it). I'll be listening in the pits to see if there is any feedback after this hits the news wire tomorrow.
There's going to be a lot of don't-ask-don't tell going on prior to the schedule-1 thing, IMO.
We also feel like machines are going to be where the players who are using marijuana are going to want to focus. I have not been looking for stoned people on machines. You play video poker stoned? Or do you just go into full-on luck no worries to screw it up type of games? I have been paying attention to the vaping patterns, and they are increasing and more big tanks and big clouds being noticed this year, too. Also asking those in the vape community (in a private setting) about what they see in the mix with vaping wax and CBD oils. My casual observations from my sample points are that, by my estimates, one in twenty people who vape also swap out with a waxy-substance vape 510 attachment and get a quick toot to the side and go back to the liquids/vape/clouds.
The culture of marijuana use has become EXTREMELY stealthy lately. So stealthy that it's happening right under your noses now. I also found a worker at a casino who left a little wax-toot cloud that I found in the hallway when I appeared out of the elevator when he wasn't expecting. These marijuana wax clouds are harder to detect because they aren't as strong as burnt herb. But once you know what they smell like, you can spot them here and there.
It's sorta like a wheelie landing mark on a freeway. Once you know what they look like, you can see who's doing wheelies where pretty easily.
I think BOTH gambling and MMJ industries are intentionally not addressing each other or wanting to mix in each other's activities just to keep everything kosher until the schedule-1 thing is understood where that's going.
But with a little training, you can see things that other people aren't seeing and things are going on here. Just extremely discretely thus far.
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August 24th, 2015 at 2:26:29 AM
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DOPE SLOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJYG2T3wrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJYG2T3wrI
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 24th, 2015 at 5:51:57 AM
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Quote: AhighYou play video poker stoned? Or do you just go into full-on luck no worries to screw it up type of games? I have been paying attention to the vaping patterns...
In the past five or so years my use of the herb has decreased substantially, indeed I've not smoked or taken prescription meds for some time, (my chronic back pain seems to have eased), but when I've blazed my game of choice was a particular slot machine.
I suspect I may resume smoking at some future date, but if not that's fine, too; hopefully I won't feel the need for the pain relief which it has afforded me in the past.
Slots and weed seem to go hand in hand.
I've never vaped.
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August 24th, 2015 at 7:51:14 AM
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Quote: MrVI've never vaped.
I've been researching this, and if you do choose to VAPE, here's a good link with a source for some of the things you might need:
http://www.vape95.com/collections/wax-and-thick-oil
The above is a WAXY SUBSTANCE VAPE attachment designed to look like an attachment for juice. Twist one off, twist the other on, toot toot, switch is apparently the way it works. Then your regular vape turns into an elaborate camouflage setup.
The best stuff to put in there is the branded wax that looks like nacho cheese. None of this stuff is legally available in Nevada unless Euphoria Wellness started selling this today (I'm not sure what they are going to be able to even sell with the strict Nevada laws, but this is at least California and Colorado with these nice branded cheesy waxes), so I don't have any personal experience, but this is what my research says is the best way to go.
I hope that Nevada gets the really good stuff and can bring in folks to Nevada. Our economy is doing good, but with the markets doing what they are doing today, it's a little bit scary as Vegas seems to be extra sensitive to these kinds of pops in the VIX.
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August 24th, 2015 at 8:50:52 AM
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While I suspect casinos may never allow patrons to openly smoke pot in a pipe or joint, as the smoke produced would certainly annoy non-smokers, I can certainly see them allowing gamblers to vape on the casino floor.
The vapor produced is much less noxious than smoke.
They might also consider having a "smoker's lounge" for those whose use creates smoke: put a few slots in it, of course.
The vapor produced is much less noxious than smoke.
They might also consider having a "smoker's lounge" for those whose use creates smoke: put a few slots in it, of course.
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August 24th, 2015 at 10:25:12 AM
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That has to be expected in a regional economy so dependent on discretionary spending, both corporate and private.Quote: AhighOur economy is doing good, but with the markets doing what they are doing today, it's a little bit scary as Vegas seems to be extra sensitive to these kinds of pops in the VIX.
August 24th, 2015 at 11:14:01 AM
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Quote: MrVWhile I suspect casinos may never allow patrons to openly smoke pot in a pipe or joint, as the smoke produced would certainly annoy non-smokers, I can certainly see them allowing gamblers to vape on the casino floor.
The vapor produced is much less noxious than smoke.
They might also consider having a "smoker's lounge" for those whose use creates smoke: put a few slots in it, of course.
You are right, and that's a very good point for folks not already aware of the new technology for vaping THC.
The vapor produced is a couple of orders of magnitude more discrete, but a trained nose can still detect the presence of that delicious odor.
It's just less intense.
This is yo minutes before the first sale. I had to get to work right after the photo, but I didn't want to miss this moment. I did get out and talk to a couple of people in line before snapping a photo as I left the parking lot.
Also, here's Sean Stanek who is doing a story on Legalizing Marijuana in Vegas. I talked with him for a minute or two also and told him about our pinball game a bit and invited him to come talk about what we're doing to encourage skill-based gambling and target a new demographic for machines.
Sean Stanek's IMDB
I don't expect he'll swing by, but I am really excited about changes happening here in Vegas and being a part of the big picture in helping people to be more happy and less worried about getting their chops busted by five-oh for whatever reason. There's still quite a bit of folks who, while supporting this movement, don't want to be associated with it. I don't blame those folks, but that's a big reason I do BOLDLY want to support this movement and encourage those others who are still fearful to get involved and support what is happening here.
Every little tiny ounce of support helps turn the tide.
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August 24th, 2015 at 4:51:19 PM
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I for one was surprised at the speed at which the walls have come tumbling down.
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August 24th, 2015 at 4:52:34 PM
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KTVU story
This "testing process" -- it will be interesting to see how much value there is in it if the product is better for it and/or if other states look at modeling their programs to include testing. It's an unusual facet of Nevada's program.
This "testing process" -- it will be interesting to see how much value there is in it if the product is better for it and/or if other states look at modeling their programs to include testing. It's an unusual facet of Nevada's program.
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August 24th, 2015 at 6:26:18 PM
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OK, before this brick and mortar store opened, MMJ was serviced by dispensaries: in fact, MMJ folks can still have their buddage delivered to them via courier from a dispensary.
Weedmaps shows a gram goes for about twenty bucks in Clark county, Nevada, which is twice what a gram averages from dispensaries up here in Portland metro.
Why go to a store when a dope dealer will come to your house?
Weedmaps shows a gram goes for about twenty bucks in Clark county, Nevada, which is twice what a gram averages from dispensaries up here in Portland metro.
Why go to a store when a dope dealer will come to your house?
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August 24th, 2015 at 6:56:24 PM
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Quote: MrVOK, before this brick and mortar store opened, MMJ was serviced by dispensaries: in fact, MMJ folks can still have their buddage delivered to them via courier from a dispensary.
Weedmaps shows a gram goes for about twenty bucks in Clark county, Nevada, which is twice what a gram averages from dispensaries up here in Portland metro.
Why go to a store when a dope dealer will come to your house?
Awesome just not legal
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August 24th, 2015 at 7:51:19 PM
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I am not going to admit to illegal drug use, but...
Being high off your ass in Vegas is one of the few places you can fit in as just one of the crowd. It's a wonderful time to be social with drunk people, they're so stupid.
Being high off your ass in Vegas is one of the few places you can fit in as just one of the crowd. It's a wonderful time to be social with drunk people, they're so stupid.
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August 26th, 2015 at 12:29:33 AM
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Quote: MrVup here in Portland metro.
That's right, you live in Portland. Is that
lardass idiot Todd Hoffman, from the
Gold Rush TV show, a personal hero of
yours, then. He showed up 2 years ago
on a live end of season show, blasted
out of his mind on dope. A real Portland
native is ol Toad Hoffman..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 26th, 2015 at 7:13:07 AM
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Methinks a self-proclaimed "curmudgeon" might benefit from the mellowing effects of marijuana.
Those who come in contact with him certainly would.
Those who come in contact with him certainly would.
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August 26th, 2015 at 2:37:13 PM
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Nobody's higher and "higher" than God.Quote: MrVMethinks a self-proclaimed "curmudgeon" might benefit from the mellowing effects of marijuana.
I can't believe what I believe.
August 26th, 2015 at 4:23:06 PM
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Quote: DoubleOrNothingNobody's higher and "higher" than God.
Someone was high when they imagined such nonsense.
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August 26th, 2015 at 5:18:25 PM
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Definitely spaced-out. But you have to know your nonsense to make any sense.Quote: IbeatyouracesSomeone was high when they imagined such nonsense.
Eg, would a "theory of everything" come before or after the everything? I mean, if you're explaining everything, that would include also the explaining.
I can't believe what I believe.
August 26th, 2015 at 6:12:24 PM
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I live near Portland and have never heard of Todd Hoffman.Quote: EvenBobThat's right, you live in Portland. Is that
lardass idiot Todd Hoffman, from the
Gold Rush TV show, a personal hero of
yours, then. He showed up 2 years ago
on a live end of season show, blasted
out of his mind on dope. A real Portland
native is ol Toad Hoffman..
But are you really attempting to disparage someone based on them living within some distance of someone else that you don't like? Perhaps instead you should just stop watching TV shows featuring people you despise.
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August 26th, 2015 at 6:18:34 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistI live near Portland and have never heard of Todd Hoffman.
.
You've never heard of Gold Rush, the number
one show on Discovery for 5 seasons?
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/gold-rush/bios/todd-hoffman/
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 26th, 2015 at 6:51:52 PM
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I love the new block feature. I'm not sure who responded to EvenBob, but you might want to test blocking him.
IT IS FIXED!!!!
So awesome to see progress being made, no matter the context. Solutions to problems are where it's at!
IT IS FIXED!!!!
So awesome to see progress being made, no matter the context. Solutions to problems are where it's at!
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August 26th, 2015 at 9:07:03 PM
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Quote: AhighI love the new block feature. I'm not sure who responded to EvenBob, but you might want to test blocking him.
!
But you read my posts anyway, I know you
do. You can't help yourself. You'll see this
pop up as a blocked post and click 'show
it to me anyway' and you'll read it. There
is no doubt in my mind that you do this.
Zero doubt. None.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 27th, 2015 at 1:46:31 AM
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It would be nice if I knew who responded to EvenBob. But it would probably make the feature not as effective (I think it's perfect!)
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August 27th, 2015 at 11:26:32 AM
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Quote: AhighIt would be nice if I knew who responded to EvenBob. But it would probably make the feature not as effective (I think it's perfect!)
Nobody responded to me, it's not working at all.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 27th, 2015 at 12:27:33 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNobody responded to me, it's not working at all.
I thought it probably was working,
And explained why you weren't
Responding to me.
But perhaps that's a whole different story.
You know we all love you XXX.
You did ask me not to mention your name.....
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
August 27th, 2015 at 2:00:53 PM
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It was inadvertent, but now one of the members here is rated XXX.
I forget who said this first here, but sometimes I crack myself up ;-)
I forget who said this first here, but sometimes I crack myself up ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
August 28th, 2015 at 5:45:19 PM
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http://highroulette.com/stoner-blog/10-things-to-do-when-stoned
#1 on the list is WHAT? It's not play a slot machine... It's a (skill-based) video game. A game where developing skill is a mission.
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August 30th, 2015 at 6:13:56 PM
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Story is kinda weird. Some people say he was set up but there is no angle there. Security and girls didn't shake him for money or anything.
Once you walk out of there they would have no legal recourse, they can't get you arrested, pictures of weed and coke prove nothing. When you get arrested they test that shit to prove it was drugs. Even if they kept it there is no chain of evidence( what is that called again?). Only thing I can see is that they want to scare off people with drugs because that's not the kinda place they want.
Maybe if we had the girls' story we would see that security guards took their money and drugs or something.
It's a weird story
Once you walk out of there they would have no legal recourse, they can't get you arrested, pictures of weed and coke prove nothing. When you get arrested they test that shit to prove it was drugs. Even if they kept it there is no chain of evidence( what is that called again?). Only thing I can see is that they want to scare off people with drugs because that's not the kinda place they want.
Maybe if we had the girls' story we would see that security guards took their money and drugs or something.
It's a weird story
So Wizard, still no basic strategy for strip poker huh?
September 1st, 2015 at 1:14:33 AM
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Ya gotta love dope and dopers that use it.
Such wisdom..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3216967/Rise-bizarre-cannabis-vomiting-syndrome-Heavy-users-suffer-severe-nausea-pain-relieved-bathing-hot-water-times-day.html
Such wisdom..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3216967/Rise-bizarre-cannabis-vomiting-syndrome-Heavy-users-suffer-severe-nausea-pain-relieved-bathing-hot-water-times-day.html
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 1st, 2015 at 9:46:28 AM
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Quote: EvenBobYa gotta love dope and dopers that use it.
Such wisdom..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3216967/Rise-bizarre-cannabis-vomiting-syndrome-Heavy-users-suffer-severe-nausea-pain-relieved-bathing-hot-water-times-day.html
Medications are for the ill. Taking medications when you're not ill will make you sick.
But, such persons do tend to post up a ton of pictures. Maybe a symptom of over-medication.
I can't believe what I believe.
September 1st, 2015 at 10:21:01 AM
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Quote: DoubleOrNothing
But, such persons do tend to post up a ton of pictures. Maybe a symptom of over-medication.
LOL
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September 1st, 2015 at 1:11:22 PM
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Far from 100% true.Quote: DoubleOrNothingMedications are for the ill. Taking medications when you're not ill will make you sick.
September 3rd, 2015 at 8:56:17 AM
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I'm surprised that legalization of marijuana isn't more to the forefront in the national political arena.
It could easily eclipse immigration as a hot-button issue.
Republicans: anti; Democrats: pro.
It could easily eclipse immigration as a hot-button issue.
Republicans: anti; Democrats: pro.
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