Mistake in Vegas - Caught with Illegal Substance
and the OP will never return.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/20/paris-hilton-boyfriend-faces-felony-in-las-vegas/
People coming here from California or Colorado are just ripe for the picking for Metro and their way of making an example about how it will cost you if you get tripped on the wires set up for people who want to smoke pot in Vegas.
You paid their cover charge and didn't think you were being taken advantage of?Quote: vegasmistakei actually met a few girls and 1 guy at the casino bar we spoke for about an hour then went to the club together. i actually paid for everyone's admission into the venue....
... shakes head ...
If there really were credit cards, they were undoubtedly stolen.Quote: vegasmistakei'm not sure what they confiscated it was all a big blur to me. im not sure what she had in the purse but if they took the credit card because she had no ID in the purse that would make sense. i am certain they took the drugs also
Quote: AhighMarijuana stories from Vegas are rare, actually. Vegas don't really tolerate marijuana much. Not even from celebs. Most stories never make it to the light of day because of a deal involving cash-for getting out of the trap (criminal record).
http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/20/paris-hilton-boyfriend-faces-felony-in-las-vegas/
http://www.eonline.com/news/259510/paris-hilton-s-ex-boyfriend-cy-waits-taking-plea-deal-in-duo-s-bust
It's legal to buy, possess, and smoke pot in Wa and Colo, but people can go to prison in other states for this conduct.
That really makes no sense at all.
Legalize it at the federal level and be done with it.
Quote: vegasmistakeits funny how some of your skepticism on this thread kicks in and you take it as factual. to the guys who believe this post is fake... you are totally wrong. everything as described happened. nothing left out of the story. as for it being a set up, it simply wasn't. these people were guests just like i was.
Dude, I believe you. Sooo, how long did it take to rid your watch of the smell?
Quote: MrVAs for weed in Las Vegas: this underscores the need for nationwide legalization.
It's legal to buy, possess, and smoke pot in Wa and Colo, but people can go to prison in other states for this conduct.
It's not really legal. It's not against any state laws but it is still against federal laws.
Quote:That really makes no sense at all.
Laws generally differ from state to state. There are lots of things that are legal in some states but can send you to jail in others.
Quote:Legalize it at the federal level and be done with it.
There are already federal laws dealing with it (not in the direction that you are hoping for) Without a constitutional change, I don't think that the federal government can stop states from regulating it.
Quote: MaxSwelleDude, I believe you. Sooo, how long did it take to rid your watch of the smell?
I see what you did there!
Quote: aceofspadesI see what you did there!
...when in Rome.
Quote: MrVI frankly don't understand why you let them look inside the purse.
They're security, not cops.
Hello, search warrant; greetings, probable cause.
Would they have pressed it with Metro, had you refused?
Dunno.
Some security guys can actually THINK. And have a report in back room about a stolen purse fitting this description. And here you are in the men's room with a purse matching that description. Not sure a metrosexual defense would work right then. But you could insist upon your rights and gamble on a drug possession charge.
I think you and Phil Helmuth have something in common. You can both dodge bullets, baby !
Quote: BuzzardNot sure a metrosexual defense would work right then.
Post of the decade.
My first question would be: Was this a uniformed security or someone in a suit who announced himself as security? Were their other security guards involved....and how were they dressed?
As for whether you are permanently 86'd from the property. They took your picture and asked for your ID. Did the security pull out a notepad and write down the information on your ID? If they wrote the information down this is further proof that you are permanently 86'd in their eyes. But you can simply call them, give them your name, and ask them if you are on their 86 list, or "list of famous names" as they call it.
Now, some more questions.
Why would a security walk into the bathroom and ask you to let him see the purse? Did he suspect you of stealing it? When did he first see you with the purse? Were the girls being monitored for suspicious activity and they seen one of them hand you a purse....and then you walked off towards the restroom? Or did they not observe one of the girls hand you the purse, they just simply saw a man headed to the restroom with a woman's purse? Or was he simply using the restroom and saw a man inside the restroom with a woman's purse?
Was there any money or other valuables in the purse? If he found a credit card in someone else's name in the purse why did he not suspect you of stealing the purse?
The security just confiscated the drugs, handed the purse back to you, and left? If the girl was right outside the bathroom door he must have saw you and her talking. Why didn't he question her to determine if she owned the purse with the drugs?
Very strange story, indeed.
Quote: mickeycrimmMarijuana will eventually go the way of gambling in this country. Legalized gambling started spreading slowly at first, then rapidly spread across the country. Politicians love a cash cow in the form of taxes. And when they see other states raking in the dough they eventually jump on the bandwagon. They can promise jobs to their constituents. It saves on police services and housing prisoners. There are probably a few more reasons out there. Marijuana will go the same way in this country. Slow spread at first, then, pow!
Mickey, my first hustle was selling Irish Sweepstakes tickets in high school. Remember when they would turn off the payphones at the race tracks ? The times, they are a changing. LOL
Quote: mickeycrimmVegasmistake, your story is very strange, indeed. There are a ton of questions that beg to be asked....and answered. You can probably answer some, some other questions you might have an answer for, and other questions you probably can't answer.
My first question would be: Was this a uniformed security or someone in a suit who announced himself as security? Were their other security guards involved....and how were they dressed?
Security wore black jackets and they had name tags. There were a total of three guards.
As for whether you are permanently 86'd from the property. They took your picture and asked for your ID. Did the security pull out a notepad and write down the information on your ID? If they wrote the information down this is further proof that you are permanently 86'd in their eyes. But you can simply call them, give them your name, and ask them if you are on their 86 list, or "list of famous names" as they call it.
They took a picture of my license, i didn't see them writing anything down but they could have simply done that later.
Now, some more questions.
Why would a security walk into the bathroom and ask you to let him see the purse? Did he suspect you of stealing it? When did he first see you with the purse? Were the girls being monitored for suspicious activity and they seen one of them hand you a purse....and then you walked off towards the restroom? Or did they not observe one of the girls hand you the purse, they just simply saw a man headed to the restroom with a woman's purse? Or was he simply using the restroom and saw a man inside the restroom with a woman's purse?
The girl went into the girls bathroom first with the purse. I waited outside. She came out and handed it to me. I then went into the mens bathroom with the purse under my arm and headed for the stall. I took a piss and went to wash my hands while the purse remained under my arm. Security entered the bathroom as I turned on the faucet. They had to have seen the exchange outside the bathroom.
Was there any money or other valuables in the purse? If he found a credit card in someone else's name in the purse why did he not suspect you of stealing the purse?
I really do not know what the contents of the purse was. I know there was weed and cocaine in there because both were pulled out of the purse by security. But that was all I saw. I was too busy fumbling for my license to take note of what they may have additionally pulled out.
The security just confiscated the drugs, handed the purse back to you, and left? If the girl was right outside the bathroom door he must have saw you and her talking. Why didn't he question her to determine if she owned the purse with the drugs?
Security confiscated the drugs ( I am assuming this as I didn't actually see them confiscate I only saw them pull them out of the purse because I was looking down at my wallet fumbling for my license. after he photographed my license in the bathroom he handed back to me the purse and told me to follow him outside. I then saw not the girl who owned the purse but her friend who was waiting for me outside. I lifted my arm up high and handed her the purse and told her I was busted and need to go. She looked bewildered and I turned around and followed security outside the venue where they took my photo. The girl was not reprimanded in any way. Later in the night the girls found me and started accusing me of stealing their credit card. I explained to them what happened and told them that if there was anything missing it was taken by security.
Very strange story, indeed.
Quote:Later in the night the girls found me and started accusing me of stealing their credit card. I explained to them what happened and told them that if there was anything missing it was taken by security.
Dude, I gotta ask: did you at least get a BJ for your troubles?
Quote: MrVDude, I gotta ask: did you at least get a BJ for your troubles?
nope, it was a total bust, the incident blew up my spot, and i ended up going to bed and checked out first thing in the morning.
Quote: BuzzardMickey, my first hustle was selling Irish Sweepstakes tickets in high school. Remember when they would turn off the payphones at the race tracks ? The times, they are a changing. LOL
Aww, c'mon-I'm sure that you had enough hustle in you, back in your day, to convince some unsuspecting guy to hold your purse.
Assuming everything went just exactly as described in every detail, I'm real sure that I have no idea what led up to it that caused them to watch and get on it that way, and neither does anyone else here.
No sex, no blood, no cranberry chips.Quote:...for 2 days and the OP will...
o/u: 36hrs
Quote: vegasmistakeQuote: mickeycrimmVegasmistake, your story is very strange, indeed. There are a ton of questions that beg to be asked....and answered. You can probably answer some, some other questions you might have an answer for, and other questions you probably can't answer.
My first question would be: Was this a uniformed security or someone in a suit who announced himself as security? Were their other security guards involved....and how were they dressed?
Security wore black jackets and they had name tags. There were a total of three guards.
As for whether you are permanently 86'd from the property. They took your picture and asked for your ID. Did the security pull out a notepad and write down the information on your ID? If they wrote the information down this is further proof that you are permanently 86'd in their eyes. But you can simply call them, give them your name, and ask them if you are on their 86 list, or "list of famous names" as they call it.
They took a picture of my license, i didn't see them writing anything down but they could have simply done that later.
Now, some more questions.
Why would a security walk into the bathroom and ask you to let him see the purse? Did he suspect you of stealing it? When did he first see you with the purse? Were the girls being monitored for suspicious activity and they seen one of them hand you a purse....and then you walked off towards the restroom? Or did they not observe one of the girls hand you the purse, they just simply saw a man headed to the restroom with a woman's purse? Or was he simply using the restroom and saw a man inside the restroom with a woman's purse?
The girl went into the girls bathroom first with the purse. I waited outside. She came out and handed it to me. I then went into the mens bathroom with the purse under my arm and headed for the stall. I took a piss and went to wash my hands while the purse remained under my arm. Security entered the bathroom as I turned on the faucet. They had to have seen the exchange outside the bathroom.
Was there any money or other valuables in the purse? If he found a credit card in someone else's name in the purse why did he not suspect you of stealing the purse?
I really do not know what the contents of the purse was. I know there was weed and cocaine in there because both were pulled out of the purse by security. But that was all I saw. I was too busy fumbling for my license to take note of what they may have additionally pulled out.
The security just confiscated the drugs, handed the purse back to you, and left? If the girl was right outside the bathroom door he must have saw you and her talking. Why didn't he question her to determine if she owned the purse with the drugs?
Security confiscated the drugs ( I am assuming this as I didn't actually see them confiscate I only saw them pull them out of the purse because I was looking down at my wallet fumbling for my license. after he photographed my license in the bathroom he handed back to me the purse and told me to follow him outside. I then saw not the girl who owned the purse but her friend who was waiting for me outside. I lifted my arm up high and handed her the purse and told her I was busted and need to go. She looked bewildered and I turned around and followed security outside the venue where they took my photo. The girl was not reprimanded in any way. Later in the night the girls found me and started accusing me of stealing their credit card. I explained to them what happened and told them that if there was anything missing it was taken by security. Very strange story, indeed.
From this explanation it could be that security was suspicious of a woman passing her purse to a man and the man promptly entering the restroom with it. What goes unanswered is the case of the missing credit card, if it was truly missing in the first place. And why did security let the girl off the hook? Questions you may never get the answers to.
"The subject responded to a request from a relative stranger: Here - take my purse, it has drugs in it...."
Quote: mickeycrimmAs for them taking a picture of your ID. I forgot. It's a high tech world these days. They don't have to write stuff down anymore. They just pull out their cell phone and take a picture of the ID.
Hey Mick, when they book you now, they give you a pencil and paper so you can copy down the phone numbers stored in your phone. Who the hell knows anybody's phone number today ? One thing ain't changed though. Big signs next to the wall phone listing whichever bail bondsman or ambulance chaser is taking care of the boys in blue. LOL
Back in the day, coke was a very social item. Any man who had it, shared it if the girl would have it, or with the group around him. You don't want to be coked up around people who aren't high with you. My brother got very involved in it, nearly ruined his life, turned it around just in time. It was very ugly.
Also can't imagine why Security let the women walk; it was their drugs they found.
Bizarre is the right word.
Quote: PaigowdanThey still have to compose an incident report:
"The subject responded to a request from a relative stranger: Here - take my purse, it has drugs in it...."
After paying a steep admission charge for a group of new found friends the poor slob ..."
I once had two blue poker chips on my keychain.....until I found out that in Malibu that means sixty days of sobriety in Cocaine Anonymous.
Quote: AhighA lot of people get the mistaken idea that marijuana is tolerated in Las Vegas after watching the portrayal of what happens in Las Vegas by Hollywood's portrayal on TV or in the movies.
This photo is taken from the restroom of the SLS:
Possession of relatively small amounts of marijuana is a felony offense, even after the medical marijuana laws have gone into effect, this only applies to local residents with Nevada state-issued licenses. Not to California residents with a California "doctor's note."
Let this be a word of warning to others that if you want to come to Nevada to smoke weed or do drugs, be advised that the local laws are designed to make money for the state of Nevada, not to ensure your safety by helping you select a less harmful recreational drug like marijuana.
Tomorrow is the first day that this is changed.
They should go through life dumbfounded
and stay out of the way us trying to
accomplish something worthwhile.
Quote: EvenBobSmoking dope is perfect for some people.
They should go through life dumbfounded
and stay out of the way us trying to
accomplish something worthwhile.
Dope also describes the uninformed person who is ignorant of modern research into the medical benefits of cannabis.
Some of the population is just too old to let go of their false beliefs. But even those shall die off.
The world is changing for the better when it comes to marijuana policy and drug law reform.
Not all the thoughts encouraged by the catalyst of marijuana are damaging to the evolution of the planet.
Quote: Ahigh
The world is changing for the better when it comes to marijuana
Refresh my memory, they call it 'dope' for
what reason? Read on, pilgrim.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/healthy_kids/Revealed-Why-Marijuanas-called-dope-.html
I've gotten high since I was a teen.
I am, by objective measure, quite successful.
My mind is sharp, my focus is keen.
The trick to managing it of course is TIMING: never use it while working, or doing anything "serious."
It's for relaxing, for recreation, for kicks.
Here ya go: more "facts" to reinforce your antediluvian beliefs: this
Hey, that's GREAT news, Aaron.
Next time I come to town I'll bring my MMJ paperwork and check out a dispensary!
Quote: MrVBulls$%t.
I've gotten high since I was a teen...
My mind is sharp, my focus is keen.
!
LOL! I rest my case.. The experts are
all wrong, we have an expert witness.
Kinda sort of..
Why do they call it dope indeed..
Quote: odiousgambitI always suspected Carl Sagan was smoking something!
If you take it as a given that our combined knowledge on the planet has benefitted from marijuana user's insights, you must also accept that our world is more knowledgeable with the plant on this planet than it would be without it.
Just because the facts might not be known does NOT change the nature of the fact if it is in fact factual.
If we were all robots designed by one creator thinking the exact same thing progress would not be as likely.
Charles' Darwin's ideas of natural selection and random mutation were also not real popular among people who believe that divine intervention with our daily lives is what is more deserving of credit than random chance and natural selection.
No matter what you believe, there is certainly evidence that our knowledge is more vast with our having a history with marijuana use among our species than it would be without.
Those who benefit from that knowledge while condemning those who brought the knowledge forward are, by logical conclusion given our initial assumption, tyrants.
Quote: EvenBobSmoking dope is perfect for some people.
They should go through life dumbfounded
and stay out of the way us trying to
accomplish something worthwhile.
Role model for spending time wisely ladies and gentlemen.
KEEP TRYING and keep us updated.
Quote: EvenBobLOL! I rest my case.. The experts are
all wrong, we have an expert witness.
Kinda sort of..
Why do they call it dope indeed..
Careful there, or you'll get suspended again for hurling another insult, one which you attempt to camouflage as a pithy remark.
As for my point in interjecting my long term use of marijuana into the discussion, I mentioned it only in an attempt to disprove your assertion that those who smoke it are appropriately labeled as being a "dope," i.e. less intelligent, less functional, of lesser value to society than those who eschew cannabis.
By objective measure I certainly would not be included in that subset given my personal and professional accomplishments thus far in life.
Oh, btw weed is legal here in the Pacific NW, at least under state law; it has become part of our "culture."
Your apparent crutch, alcohol, is much, much more deleterious to the human mind and body.
It's a changing world: keep up or get out of the way.
Quote: MrV..Oh, btw weed is legal here in the Pacific NW, at least under state law; it has become part of our "culture."...
Oh, btw, state law well never supersede federal law therefore weed IS NOT legal ANYWHERE in this country.
Quote: IbeatyouracesOh, btw, state law well never supersede federal law therefore weed IS NOT legal ANYWHERE in this country.
You are absolutely right.
Here are the penalties.
https://www.iwu.edu/ccs/Federal_Drug_Laws.htm
Anyone familiar with cases of marijuana possession for personal use alone resulting in prison time recently?
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/marijuana-possession.htm
Quote: criminaldefenselawyerIf you were arrested by federal law enforcement, most likely you were targeted for arrest because your possession was in connection with other violations such as drug trafficking, large scale grow operations, ties to criminal enterprises, or violent activities or unlawful possession of firearms. Under federal law, possession by itself is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison and up to $1,000 fine for first offense. When possession is tied with sale or other criminal enterprises federal penalties are much harsher and categorized as felonies. Federal prosecutors may also prosecute as marijuana crimes conduct that is legal under a state’s law. This is not common, but the rise in medical marijuana laws has prompted the federal government to periodically reevaluate its enforcement policies.
Ignorance is not an excuse when it comes to violation of these laws. Being knowledgeable is important.
Quote: criminaldefenselawyerTypically these state laws remove criminal penalties for possession to those people who have qualified and have written certification from a physician.
But it sure sounds like a federal conviction is simply NOT going to happen if you have a doctor on your side with a recommendation from before the charges were filed.
I'm sure you've heard the argument that we're all criminals. I think your suggestion falls into that vastly large bucket, not in the "what to expect when smoking pot in private in Las Vegas and enjoying yourself in public."
I'm pretty sure taxi drivers are going to be asking about detours besides the tunnel ride here starting tomorrow.
Sounds like playing craps.Quote: MrVThe trick to managing it of course is TIMING: never use it while working, or doing anything "serious."
It's for relaxing, for recreation, for kicks.
make them act befuddled and dopey.
There's a certain befuddled logic there
that makes sense to only them..
Quote: IbeatyouracesOh, btw, state law well never supersede federal law therefore weed IS NOT legal ANYWHERE in this country.
It is legal under the laws of several states and Washington D.C.
The feds have basically agreed not to pursue prosecution in states who have legalized marijuana use, so long as certain rules are followed.
see: fed policy
It's a legal tap dance.
That is by fiat of the current administration and not the law on the books. The chances of the next administration's enforcing the law as it stands are increasingly good.Quote: MrVIt is legal under the laws of several states and Washington D.C. The feds have basically agreed not to pursue prosecution in states who have legalized marijuana use, so long as certain rules are followed. see: fed policy
Were a republican administration to enforce federal law and not honor "the will of the people" the uproar created would make Ferguson look like a tempest in a teapot.
The protests might well approach in vehemence the anti-war protests during Vietnam.
History shows that rights, once granted, are taken away only with great consequence.
Oh, where does the Constitution state that marijuana is a "right"?Quote: MrVHistory shows that rights, once granted, are taken away only with great consequence.
BTW, it is not in the constitution that marijuana is illegal: nothing is said about it, just as the constitution is silent on most issues of daily life and its necessary regulation.
No, it's legislative.
You are attempting to deflect the argument from the relevant issue, which is that rights, whether conferred by state or federal law, are not simply removed without consequence.
The rights exist, they are real, at least in the jurisdictions which have legalized weed, both for the public at large and for medical purposes.
There will truly be hell to pay if the feds try to take them away.
Quote: SanchoPanzaOh, where does the Constitution state that marijuana is a "right"?
Huh ??????
The people voted marijuana legal in several states.
How is this unconstitutional?
That does not meet the requirement to amend the Constitution.Quote: terapinedHuh ??????
The people voted marijuana legal in several states.
How is this unconstitutional?
