Albert
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March 3rd, 2014 at 2:12:04 AM permalink
Hello,

I would like to know if Casino is able to manipulate the Baccarat Patterns in any way in advance whilst the cards are being shuffled or after the cards are placed in the card dispenser?

Thank you.
AxiomOfChoice
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March 3rd, 2014 at 2:16:40 AM permalink
Quote: Albert

Hello,

I would like to know if Casino is able to manipulate the Baccarat Patterns in any way in advance whilst the cards are being shuffled or after the cards are placed in the card dispenser?

Thank you.



Of course they can. The shoes are magic and swap the positions of the cards if you make a big bet and are going to win. How do you think casinos stay in business? Surely not by the mathematical edge that is built into every game they offer!

You're welcome.
Albert
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February 19th, 2015 at 1:31:47 AM permalink
Casino use automatic card dispensers to do second deal or hold cards. And yes they are not in business by house edge, house edge is built in for long run, these days casinos wins every hour, they don't need house edge.

do you know how they move the card is it by dealers help or is automatic by computer.
Baccaratfrom79
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February 26th, 2015 at 3:48:12 PM permalink
All random, no way to set up. Years and years of playing and please note (IMHO-only) I believe there are better runs/streaks with a hand shuffle rather than a machine auto shuffle. However, I can make money off of chop-chop as well. Again, IMHO only!!!
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Venthus
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February 26th, 2015 at 4:03:42 PM permalink
Assuming that the cards could be rearranged in the shuffling process (but not after), it doesn't make much of a difference. One of the reasons why I prefer baccarat, roulette, and craps tournaments is that there's always a possible winner. It doesn't help to stack the deck in one direction when you could just as readily bet that side. (Unlike BJ, where you could theoretically make a deck where no rational player would survive.)
Albert
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June 4th, 2015 at 3:02:23 AM permalink
I have recently found few website and also some clips on youtube that advertise baccarat card dispenser which can be used to do second deal or withhold cards.

I have emailed one of these companies which I found all are Chinese, and they have send the video of these card dispenser that clearly shows by remote control these card dispensers can be controlled.

Basically there is a button on remote which hold the cards up and then dealer deal the card and there is a button which releases the card.

These card dispensers all are connected to a computer which operator can see the cards in the shoe and based on the bets on the table decide to hold or release a card.

That simply change the result.
charliepatrick
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June 4th, 2015 at 2:43:49 PM permalink
Quote: Albert

I have recently found ... youtube ... card dispenser which can be used to do second deal or withhold cards.

Yes it's scary that a shoe can read the cards and at a flick of a switch hide it upwards so the second card is dealt. The problem is that you can see the card flip up and down (if you look carefully) and the shoe remains around as evidence - so I can't imagine a normal casino using one - but if there was a large bettor, a slightly dodgy one might use it.
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June 4th, 2015 at 6:52:22 PM permalink
Quote: Albert

I have recently found few website and also some clips on youtube that advertise baccarat card dispenser which can be used to do second deal or withhold cards.

I have emailed one of these companies which I found all are Chinese, and they have send the video of these card dispenser that clearly shows by remote control these card dispensers can be controlled.

Basically there is a button on remote which hold the cards up and then dealer deal the card and there is a button which releases the card.

These card dispensers all are connected to a computer which operator can see the cards in the shoe and based on the bets on the table decide to hold or release a card.

That simply change the result.


and what are you complaining.
just bet against the whale, and you have found yourself a Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.
Albert
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June 5th, 2015 at 4:06:45 AM permalink
In Sydney casino all baccarat card dispensers have some sort of brush type cover which covers the front of the card dispenser and players can not see any cards.

They did not have this couple of years ago, but they have install that on all the card dispensers.
Albert
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June 5th, 2015 at 4:16:25 AM permalink
Quote: andysif

and what are you complaining.
just bet against the whale, and you have found yourself a Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.



It is not complain its sharing what I have found with every one else, specially the people who think using different systems/strategies/ whatever you wanna call it, is going to work in short or long run. Casino uses every measure to make money.

Using these computerised and remote controlled card dispensers is common these days in all large casinos.

They simply say it is for protection of the casino from scam whether by dealer or player.

Similar to using laser controlled roulette for making sure that wheel is balanced all the time, which is again another equipment that could change the result as well.
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June 5th, 2015 at 4:37:50 AM permalink
Quote: andysif

and what are you complaining.
just bet against the whale, and you have found yourself a Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.

I kept wanting to say that the entire time.

However if someone doesn't figure that out within seconds it's a wast of time.

Ill never get it, people come up with all kinds of stuff, from biased dice to this, and they are 100% sure it's happening, but they just complain instead of getting rich.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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