Burning a music CD question
March 25th, 2013 at 10:07:35 AM
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Yesterday I tried to burn about 30 songs to a CD from iTunes. I put in a standard CD-R with 702 MB capacity. After just three songs, it filled up.
This morning I tried to repeat the operation with a 4.37 GB DVD-R but iTunes gave me a warning to the effect that I could only use a DVD in a DVD player, so I canceled the attempt. iTunes lets you do a DVD burn only 7 times, and I've already used up 3 in failed attempts. What I want is a simple CD that can be played in a car.
So, my question is what kind of disk do I need or is there a way to adjust the settings so each song doesn't hog up so much space?
Thanks for reading my question.
This morning I tried to repeat the operation with a 4.37 GB DVD-R but iTunes gave me a warning to the effect that I could only use a DVD in a DVD player, so I canceled the attempt. iTunes lets you do a DVD burn only 7 times, and I've already used up 3 in failed attempts. What I want is a simple CD that can be played in a car.
So, my question is what kind of disk do I need or is there a way to adjust the settings so each song doesn't hog up so much space?
Thanks for reading my question.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 25th, 2013 at 10:37:46 AM
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You need to burn an audio CD, not a data CD, to play in a car. ITunes can do this, but you will only be able to fit about 70 minutes of audio on the CD.
You need a regular cd-r and need to make sure you don't try to burn more than 70 mins.
Newer cars may have stereos that can actually play MP3s off data CDs. In that case, you need to tell iTunes that you're burning an MP3 data CD, NOT an audio CD, and then you would be limited to 700 MB, not 70 mins, which should be plenty for 30 song MP3s or AACs.
You need a regular cd-r and need to make sure you don't try to burn more than 70 mins.
Newer cars may have stereos that can actually play MP3s off data CDs. In that case, you need to tell iTunes that you're burning an MP3 data CD, NOT an audio CD, and then you would be limited to 700 MB, not 70 mins, which should be plenty for 30 song MP3s or AACs.
March 25th, 2013 at 10:50:17 AM
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If you're burning in WAV format, I highly doubt you can fit 30 on there. Nonetheless, three is kind of ridiculous. Not even FLAC, the most common huge file.format, would do that.
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March 25th, 2013 at 11:17:26 AM
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I'm with sodawater here. You need a audio Cd. I don't understand why it would only burn three song. That doesn't make any sense at all. You might be able to convert the files to mp3 format if they are in Wav format now. As sodawater stated you can put 70 minutes of music on a audio cd.
March 25th, 2013 at 1:17:52 PM
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Thanks for the comments. It is possible to select MP3 as the file format. However, I don't think either of my car CD players will read that format.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 25th, 2013 at 1:19:43 PM
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Quote: WizardThanks for the comments. It is possible to select MP3 as the file format. However, I don't think either of my car CD players will read that format.
Then you need to burn multiple audio CDs... for 30 songs, my guess is that will be two CDs. But, again, for audio CDs it goes by minutes, not by songs or megabytes. 70 mins per CD.
March 25th, 2013 at 1:26:50 PM
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Use an ordinary CD-R.
The most common mistake would be to make a data disk, which would enable MORE songs than a audio disc.
Just how long are these songs? Typical songs are about 4 minutes, so you should fit about 18 per CD.
So I really don't know what's wrong.
For what it's worth, I use iTunes to rip and burn.
The most common mistake would be to make a data disk, which would enable MORE songs than a audio disc.
Just how long are these songs? Typical songs are about 4 minutes, so you should fit about 18 per CD.
So I really don't know what's wrong.
For what it's worth, I use iTunes to rip and burn.
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March 25th, 2013 at 1:52:23 PM
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I did use an ordinary CD-R. It says it can record up to 80 minutes of music. The songs are about 3-4 minutes each.
When I try to look at the files on the disk all I can see are the CDA files. The properties of the whole disk say it is 100% filled.
When I try to look at the files on the disk all I can see are the CDA files. The properties of the whole disk say it is 100% filled.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 25th, 2013 at 2:11:40 PM
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There is something called Buffer Under Run Errors. Sometime the opening of a new application can cause a BURN error. Presumably, you keep trying to do things on your computer while making a CD.
There is a technology developed by Sanyo that allows compact disc (CD) recording to automatically stop in the event of an unplanned interruption and then to resume recording. BURN-Proof is a registered trademark of Sanyo.
There is a technology developed by Sanyo that allows compact disc (CD) recording to automatically stop in the event of an unplanned interruption and then to resume recording. BURN-Proof is a registered trademark of Sanyo.
March 25th, 2013 at 2:31:31 PM
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Quote: pacomartinPresumably, you keep trying to do things on your computer while making a CD.
I should hope so. it's way past 1996, after all.
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March 25th, 2013 at 3:41:31 PM
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Quote: pacomartinThere is something called Buffer Under Run Errors. Sometime the opening of a new application can cause a BURN error. Presumably, you keep trying to do things on your computer while making a CD.
Thanks, I'll add software/computers to your list of many areas of expertise. I could see it was taking about a minute per song to burn so I'm sure I started to do something else on the computer. I can't recall if I opened another program. However, I will say I tried it again after the first 3-song CD and got 3 the second time as well.
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March 25th, 2013 at 4:26:26 PM
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Can't help you with iTunes, but I rip CDs using the windows player to the best possible sound (so a 3min song becomes about 24Mb .wma). However the burn process can also use mp3's. So I guess it doesn't really matter as long as the burn process understands the music and can calculate its length.
You can use windows media player to burn but I found some cheap software called Roxio which must add some other data to the CD as the names of the tracks are shown in the car. Whichever method, you put a normal CD-R in the writer and get into burn mode. Drag and drop the tunes into the program, it gives minutes left, and when full you initiate the "Burn" button.
btw (1) I also use Word to create the labels as I like you know what tracks are on each CD (2) when burning my Christmas CDs (I collect records so send one to everyone) I also check the tracks on a player, but sometimes there are errors, so just throw away (3) also worth saving the project, in case there is a problem with the CD, you can create another one (assumes you don't move the underlying music tracks).
You can use windows media player to burn but I found some cheap software called Roxio which must add some other data to the CD as the names of the tracks are shown in the car. Whichever method, you put a normal CD-R in the writer and get into burn mode. Drag and drop the tunes into the program, it gives minutes left, and when full you initiate the "Burn" button.
btw (1) I also use Word to create the labels as I like you know what tracks are on each CD (2) when burning my Christmas CDs (I collect records so send one to everyone) I also check the tracks on a player, but sometimes there are errors, so just throw away (3) also worth saving the project, in case there is a problem with the CD, you can create another one (assumes you don't move the underlying music tracks).
March 25th, 2013 at 7:18:57 PM
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I'm not familiar with Itunes but I am an expert at burning cd's from files I download online. I'm a Deadhead. I download tons of music. Mostly live recent concerts of bands that allow audio taping and downloading of their concerts. Many of the concerts I download are from bt.etree.org. I've downloaded thousands of concerts with bit torrent, convert the compressed audio flac files to wav files and burn cds. I've also recorded live concerts myself, used audio software to adjust levels back home and divide concert huge file into individual song wav files and burned a cd of the concert i myself recorded.
My understanding is that itune music files are probabbly in some mp3 format or something similar. To burn an audio cd, those files need to be converted to wav files. once converted to wav files,you can burn an audio cd using windows media player or other software.
My understanding is that itune music files are probabbly in some mp3 format or something similar. To burn an audio cd, those files need to be converted to wav files. once converted to wav files,you can burn an audio cd using windows media player or other software.
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March 25th, 2013 at 7:28:33 PM
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The act of burning the CD in iTunes converts mp3 to wav. You don't have to do it yourself
March 25th, 2013 at 8:27:37 PM
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It takes about a minute to burn a 4 minute song? That's acceptable.
There is a setting for the burn speed. Options go from 1x to 24x or even higher.
I tend to get errors or problems when I select higher than 12x, so to be safe, I go with 8x.
A minute per 4 minute song seems to suggest 4x, so you should be fine there.
My only other suggestion is, assuming all else fails, restart the computer, launch iTunes and nothing else. Burn at 1x.
If that works, next burn at 2x, 4x or 8x to narrow it down and figure out what the real issue is.
There is a setting for the burn speed. Options go from 1x to 24x or even higher.
I tend to get errors or problems when I select higher than 12x, so to be safe, I go with 8x.
A minute per 4 minute song seems to suggest 4x, so you should be fine there.
My only other suggestion is, assuming all else fails, restart the computer, launch iTunes and nothing else. Burn at 1x.
If that works, next burn at 2x, 4x or 8x to narrow it down and figure out what the real issue is.
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April 1st, 2013 at 6:27:19 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearMy only other suggestion is, assuming all else fails, restart the computer, launch iTunes and nothing else. Burn at 1x.
If that works, next burn at 2x, 4x or 8x to narrow it down and figure out what the real issue is.
I tried that, at 1x speed, and this time could burn only two songs. I have beat my head against the wall so much over this issue I don't have much blood to spare. Not to mention all the CD's I've wasted with two or three songs on them. I did notice somebody in another forum had the exact same problem but nobody responded to his plea for help. My best guess is I have a faulty disk drive.
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April 1st, 2013 at 6:32:57 PM
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You might have a hardware issue with your disc burner. What kind of computer is it? Have you tried burning the same songs on a different computer?
April 1st, 2013 at 6:37:26 PM
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Are these Wav files you are burning?
What software are you using?
Do you have the software set up properly? I simply use windows media center, make sure you are burning an audio cd, not data.
What kind of equipment are you using, Laptop? How old?
Are you burning with 2 second gaps or DOA (disc at once) no gaps?
Really kind of surprised you are having such a problem. This is really a simple operation for any cheap laptop, which I own several and have burned hundreds of audio cd's.
Sounds like an equipment problem.
What software are you using?
Do you have the software set up properly? I simply use windows media center, make sure you are burning an audio cd, not data.
What kind of equipment are you using, Laptop? How old?
Are you burning with 2 second gaps or DOA (disc at once) no gaps?
Really kind of surprised you are having such a problem. This is really a simple operation for any cheap laptop, which I own several and have burned hundreds of audio cd's.
Sounds like an equipment problem.
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April 1st, 2013 at 6:52:45 PM
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I reread your post Wiz. If using ITunes to burn, My suggestion is go to an ITunes forum and post this question.
Otherwise if you are a windows guy as most are, find software to convert the music file to a wav file. There is probably freeware out there to convert it. If the original files are MP3, I would use a free program called "Traders Little Helper" to convert the music files to wav files. Then you are not beholden to the ITunes burning software which obviously maybe the culprit.
Otherwise if you are a windows guy as most are, find software to convert the music file to a wav file. There is probably freeware out there to convert it. If the original files are MP3, I would use a free program called "Traders Little Helper" to convert the music files to wav files. Then you are not beholden to the ITunes burning software which obviously maybe the culprit.
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April 1st, 2013 at 9:05:44 PM
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Unless it's a hardware problem, you may be better off using Windows Media Player to burn the CD.
1. Insert a new blank CD and wait several seconds.
2a. If a popup appears, choose the option to burn a music or audio CD with Windows Media Player.
2b. If you get no such popup, open Windows Media Player manually and click the "Burn" tab on the right.
3. Open your iTunes music folder, which is probably C:\Users\your_username\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music.
4. Go into each artist folder and drag each song you want onto the Windows Media Player's playlist. As you add songs, you will notice it update the total length of the CD in time format.
5. Stop adding songs when you have reached the point where one more song would put you over the limit (which I think you said was 80 minutes).
6. Since it's a music CD, I prefer the disc-at-once option so that there are no gaps between tracks. You set this by clicking the "Burn options" icon (on the far right of the window, on the same row where the "Start burn" button is located, has a green checkmark), select "More burn options..." from the menu, and check the box labeled "Burn CD without gaps."
7. Now you can click the "Start burn" button. It will convert the .m4a files first to prepare for the burn, and once they have been converted it should write the songs to the CD and eject it when it is finished.
If that all does not go smoothly, then there is likely something wrong with the blank CD and/or the disc burner drive.
1. Insert a new blank CD and wait several seconds.
2a. If a popup appears, choose the option to burn a music or audio CD with Windows Media Player.
2b. If you get no such popup, open Windows Media Player manually and click the "Burn" tab on the right.
3. Open your iTunes music folder, which is probably C:\Users\your_username\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Music.
4. Go into each artist folder and drag each song you want onto the Windows Media Player's playlist. As you add songs, you will notice it update the total length of the CD in time format.
5. Stop adding songs when you have reached the point where one more song would put you over the limit (which I think you said was 80 minutes).
6. Since it's a music CD, I prefer the disc-at-once option so that there are no gaps between tracks. You set this by clicking the "Burn options" icon (on the far right of the window, on the same row where the "Start burn" button is located, has a green checkmark), select "More burn options..." from the menu, and check the box labeled "Burn CD without gaps."
7. Now you can click the "Start burn" button. It will convert the .m4a files first to prepare for the burn, and once they have been converted it should write the songs to the CD and eject it when it is finished.
If that all does not go smoothly, then there is likely something wrong with the blank CD and/or the disc burner drive.
April 1st, 2013 at 10:53:55 PM
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Quote: JByou may be better off using Windows Media Player to burn the CD.
I followed your steps exactly and it burned the mp4 files to the CD. So, no, it didn't convert the files. I verified this by putting the CD in my car CD player and it didn't play anything.
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April 1st, 2013 at 11:11:00 PM
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Quote: WizardI followed your steps exactly and it burned the mp4 files to the CD. So, no, it didn't convert the files. I verified this by putting the CD in my car CD player and it didn't play anything.
at this point, my guess is there's something wrong with your source song files
April 1st, 2013 at 11:20:56 PM
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There are many free file conversion utilities available. I found one I like that is simple and works awesome, and allows for batch conversion.
Older cd players are only capable of playing wave files. A wave file is not compressed like other formats such as mp3 -4 etc... So they are large and a typical cd will only hold 10-18 depending on length of song. I use wave because the quality of sound is way better than a compressed file like mp3.
Older cd players are only capable of playing wave files. A wave file is not compressed like other formats such as mp3 -4 etc... So they are large and a typical cd will only hold 10-18 depending on length of song. I use wave because the quality of sound is way better than a compressed file like mp3.
April 1st, 2013 at 11:29:52 PM
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IIRC, my daughter used to do this before she got a different car stereo that plays mp3, wav, wma etc.Quote: WizardI followed your steps exactly and it burned the mp4 files to the CD. So, no, it didn't convert the files. I verified this by putting the CD in my car CD player and it didn't play anything.
She had to first convert, using itunes, the apple file to a wav file and save it to the library. Then burn the wav file.
something llike this
In Edit/Preferences, select the Advanced tab.
Under "Import Using", select "WAV Encoder"
Click OK to leave preferences
In your Music library, right-click the tune, and select "Convert Selection to WAV".
iTunes will now create the WAV file (and add it to your library)
There should be a way to do a batch conversion instead of one at a time.
I do not use itunes myself as my mp3 player plays wav, wma and many other formats right thru my stereo input jack.
I have not used a CD in years.
Can not an ipod play thru the car stereo or did apple make it so one can not.
Good Luck
Your kids can not help you out with this?
They seem to know everything these days about computer stuff and music players
except changing the needle on a record player :)
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April 2nd, 2013 at 1:32:51 AM
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Quote: WizardI followed your steps exactly and it burned the mp4 files to the CD. So, no, it didn't convert the files. I verified this by putting the CD in my car CD player and it didn't play anything.
Hmm. In that case, the only thing I can say with some degree of certainty is that something peculiar is definitely transpiring.
April 2nd, 2013 at 1:45:18 AM
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I only use NERO for this type of task. Works flawlessly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjp4oIDDwl0
If you need a copy of Nero and don't have it, let me know as I think I have a CD that came with a CD burner that you can have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjp4oIDDwl0
If you need a copy of Nero and don't have it, let me know as I think I have a CD that came with a CD burner that you can have.
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April 2nd, 2013 at 6:22:32 AM
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I agree with Ahigh == use nero.
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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:00:33 AM
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What are you listening to Wiz?
Maybe I can burn some stuff for you, I hace access to alot of Live music.
What I've been listening to lately is The Who-latest tour, they've been playing live the entire Quadrophenia Album plus hits.
Also been listening to Robert Plant, Hes touring in Australia with the band Space Shifters and surprisingly playing alot old Zep
Also been lestening to Neil Young, Hes also currently touring Australia with Crazy Horse and putting on some great shows
Also Eric Clapton is touring with Paul Carrack of Squeeze and they have been playing the song Tempted by the Fruit of another together.
I'm a huge huge music fan, saw the Grateful Dead over a hundred times, recorded a bunch of their concerts.
I have access to tons of live music, old and recent, Dead and non-Dead.
Peace
Ed the Deadhead
Maybe I can burn some stuff for you, I hace access to alot of Live music.
What I've been listening to lately is The Who-latest tour, they've been playing live the entire Quadrophenia Album plus hits.
Also been listening to Robert Plant, Hes touring in Australia with the band Space Shifters and surprisingly playing alot old Zep
Also been lestening to Neil Young, Hes also currently touring Australia with Crazy Horse and putting on some great shows
Also Eric Clapton is touring with Paul Carrack of Squeeze and they have been playing the song Tempted by the Fruit of another together.
I'm a huge huge music fan, saw the Grateful Dead over a hundred times, recorded a bunch of their concerts.
I have access to tons of live music, old and recent, Dead and non-Dead.
Peace
Ed the Deadhead
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
April 2nd, 2013 at 11:07:22 AM
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Quote: terapinedWhat are you listening to Wiz?
Thanks for the offer to help. However, I just wanted to burn one CD for a friend of songs on my iPod. I'd be embarrassed to show anybody my playlist. It ranges from the Carpenters to Ozzy Ozbourne.
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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:35:44 AM
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I assume these were the steps of your first attempt
1) Open ITunes
2) You have a playlist of songs you are wanting to burn
3) Right click on the playlist and select "Burn Playlist to Disc"
4) Preferred Speed(may want to drop this down a bit), Audio CD is selected
5) Click Burn
That is the process I use all the time and has always worked.
Some questions
a) When you click on the playlist within ITunes, how long does it say it is? With the standard layout the total time is listed above the song list.
b) Look at the actual disk that was burned and compare it with a blank one. There should be a very obvious place on the burned CD where data stopped burning. If the disk is full, this line should be close to the outside edge of the disk.
c) What actually happens when you try and play the cd? The CDA files are really not actually files, so it might be possible to have only 2-3 files on the disk but be a valid cd.
d) When it is in your computer, what does ITunes say is on the disk? It can play CDs as well, does it only show the 2-3 songs?
e) How long ago did you purchase these songs?(Assuming you bought them through itunes). There was a point when they had DRM on them but that was 3-6ish years ago. I'm not sure what happens when ITunes tries to burn those songs.
1) Open ITunes
2) You have a playlist of songs you are wanting to burn
3) Right click on the playlist and select "Burn Playlist to Disc"
4) Preferred Speed(may want to drop this down a bit), Audio CD is selected
5) Click Burn
That is the process I use all the time and has always worked.
Some questions
a) When you click on the playlist within ITunes, how long does it say it is? With the standard layout the total time is listed above the song list.
b) Look at the actual disk that was burned and compare it with a blank one. There should be a very obvious place on the burned CD where data stopped burning. If the disk is full, this line should be close to the outside edge of the disk.
c) What actually happens when you try and play the cd? The CDA files are really not actually files, so it might be possible to have only 2-3 files on the disk but be a valid cd.
d) When it is in your computer, what does ITunes say is on the disk? It can play CDs as well, does it only show the 2-3 songs?
e) How long ago did you purchase these songs?(Assuming you bought them through itunes). There was a point when they had DRM on them but that was 3-6ish years ago. I'm not sure what happens when ITunes tries to burn those songs.
April 11th, 2013 at 2:56:31 PM
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I had a problem a few months ago with both my CD and TV (I watch TV on my PC) so went out and bought new ones. When these didn't work the suggestion was not only to turn the laptop off but also to remove the battery. Apparently this forced it to reload some drivers (which presumably had become corrupted); it worked and I am now the proud owner of a spare DVD writer and TV tuner.Quote: JBIf that all does not go smoothly, then there is likely something wrong with the blank CD and/or the disc burner drive.
July 10th, 2013 at 3:20:54 AM
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Quote: WizardI followed your steps exactly and it burned the mp4 files to the CD. So, no, it didn't convert the files. I verified this by putting the CD in my car CD player and it didn't play anything.
As for then converting the videos into CD/DVD, AppGeeker will convert the videos into DVD VOB format and burn them to a playable CD/DVD in one process.
I have been using it for a while, works great.
July 10th, 2013 at 5:20:25 AM
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personally, Wizard, I would use WinAmp to convert mp3 files to WAV files. simple and efficient
Then use Nero or something to burn the cd.
Then use Nero or something to burn the cd.
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