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October 28th, 2025 at 1:11:16 PM permalink
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A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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Remarkable if true.

Even in the 1990's, I seem to recall groceries generally costing more than that.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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October 28th, 2025 at 1:59:00 PM permalink
It depends on the groceries. In the 90s, I could buy a six-pack and a bag of chips( traditional Irish breakfast) for about $6.66.
The beauty of stories like that isn't if they are true or not, it's that they might be true.
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October 28th, 2025 at 2:00:15 PM permalink
It depends on the groceries. In the 90s, I could buy a six-pack and a bag of chips( traditional Irish breakfast) for about $6.66.
The beauty of stories like that isn't if they are true or not, it's that they might be true.
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October 28th, 2025 at 2:16:29 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: Nathan

A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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Remarkable if true.

Even in the 1990's, I seem to recall groceries generally costing more than that.
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They didn't specify what she bought. 💡 Over the years I have rung up hundreds of Customers whose bill turned out to be $6.66.💡
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October 28th, 2025 at 2:19:56 PM permalink
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A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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One time I was registering a car at DMV and they gave me a plate with 666 on it. I handed it right back and told them where to shove it.

Not because I am especially sensitive about that, but there are people walking around with serious disorders who believe they are being tormented by the devil and seeing me driving around with that could lead such a person to believe I have something to do with their torment and make me their target. I'm talking about the kind of people who hear voices that never seem to tell them to do anything good.

I also don't like anything that draws attention to my car or makes it memorable. Unless you're doing some kind of showmanship, when is a stranger noticing or remembering your car ever good?
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October 28th, 2025 at 3:41:15 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: Nathan

A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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Remarkable if true.

Even in the 1990's, I seem to recall groceries generally costing more than that.
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They didn't specify what she bought. 💡 Over the years I have rung up hundreds of Customers whose bill turned out to be $6.66.💡
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Sure, so have I. Back when, that might have gotten me a pack of smokes, a bag of mini crunch donuts, and a 6 pack of Jolt cola, but I wouldn't classify that as "groceries".

Then again, I'm also unlikely to worry myself over a bit of numerological superstition or win a million bucks off a scratcher, so...
May the cards fall in your favor.
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October 28th, 2025 at 3:48:06 PM permalink
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A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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Remarkable if true.

Even in the 1990's, I seem to recall groceries generally costing more than that.
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They didn't specify what she bought. 💡 Over the years I have rung up hundreds of Customers whose bill turned out to be $6.66.💡
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Sure, so have I. Back when, that might have gotten me a pack of smokes, a bag of mini crunch donuts, and a 6 pack of Jolt cola, but I wouldn't classify that as "groceries".

Then again, I'm also unlikely to worry myself over a bit of numerological superstition or win a million bucks off a scratcher, so...
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A Poster said something like, "Inflation is truly disgusting. I was already an Adult in 1977(I was born in 1950) and in 1977 I bought a full Chinese Dinner and a movie ticket with a large popcorn and a large Coke for $5. Today a full Chinese Dinner, a movie ticket with a large popcorn and a large Coke costs around $55, a whopping $50 more for the same meal 48 years ago! Inflation is truly disgusting.😡🤬
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October 29th, 2025 at 2:07:59 AM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

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Quote: Nathan

A News Magazine in the 90's or early 2000s did a report on a Woman who's grocery bill came up to $6.66. She was a devout Christian and freaked out about 666 as 666 is the Devil's number. She bought a $1 lottery ticket to make her total go to $7.66(Ironically gambling is also against Christianity 💡) and WON MILLIONS. 😀
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Remarkable if true.

Even in the 1990's, I seem to recall groceries generally costing more than that.
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They didn't specify what she bought. 💡 Over the years I have rung up hundreds of Customers whose bill turned out to be $6.66.💡
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Sure, so have I. Back when, that might have gotten me a pack of smokes, a bag of mini crunch donuts, and a 6 pack of Jolt cola, but I wouldn't classify that as "groceries".

Then again, I'm also unlikely to worry myself over a bit of numerological superstition or win a million bucks off a scratcher, so...
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A Poster said something like, "Inflation is truly disgusting. I was already an Adult in 1977(I was born in 1950) and in 1977 I bought a full Chinese Dinner and a movie ticket with a large popcorn and a large Coke for $5. Today a full Chinese Dinner, a movie ticket with a large popcorn and a large Coke costs around $55, a whopping $50 more for the same meal 48 years ago! Inflation is truly disgusting.😡🤬
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menjadi koki untuk memilih pepole kaya
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October 29th, 2025 at 4:49:52 AM permalink
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October 29th, 2025 at 11:20:40 AM permalink
I don't necessarily agree with these comments, but will fight to defend their right to state them.

Aure Entulva !!
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Cool story bro but I already saw the movie.
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October 31st, 2025 at 8:33:22 PM permalink
To answer my original post, I found out that Zoroastrianism is very opposed to gambling.

In the morning I will write about how “chance rituals” led to the development of written language in Eastern Asia
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As to the 24-hour adoration chapel in Las Vegas, it is at the St. Bridget Roman Catholic Church at 220 N 14th St.
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As to the 24-hour adoration chapel in Las Vegas, it is at the St. Bridget Roman Catholic Church at 220 N 14th St.
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Interesting. I took a look at it on the maps. Looks like a shrine is in the parking lot out in the open. I don't think I've been to that part of town before.

I was picturing a different church in that area, St. Joan of Arc, which is a very small church you pass on the walk from the bus station to the Downtown stores. Like the cathedral on the Strip it also has a very attractive tiled front. It's on a block with a couple of Vegas-style wedding chapels so I guess it must also be used for solemnizing marriages, also that seems inauspicious, to be married in a church named after a woman known for giving a lot of orders and for celibacy.

It's also across the street from a jail. I walk quickly down that block, two distinct ways a man can lose his freedom! All it needs is a military recruiting office and a timeshare sales office for the complete set.
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I know that I promised to write about "chance rituals" and written language in Eastern Asia, which I must fulfill to maintain credibility.

While writing seems like an obvious invention, it was only independently developed a few times in history. Most people in the forum only use the Latin alphabet in their day-to-day life, but the majority of people in the world use a non-Latin script such as Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic, Devanagari, Bengali-Assamese, Mkhedruli, or dozens of others.

Most of these scripts, from North Africa to Indonesia, actually descend from the Phoenician alphabet, which itself descends from Proto-Sinaitic script, which comes from Egyptian hieroglyphics. However there are a few exceptions; while the Chinese, Japanese, and Sawndip writing systems all have original parts, they inevitably descend from Oracle Bone Script millennia ago.

So, what is Oracle Bone Script? In ancient China, scapulimancy was a practice of writing symbols on parts of an ox bone or turtle shell, and then heating them until a crack appeared, revealing some divination. Eventually these religious symbols became the basis for the Chinese script, which is used by over a billion people today.

Basically, gambling is extremely important to the advancement of human civilization :D
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November 11th, 2025 at 4:53:00 PM permalink
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This post revealed a lot of your religious beliefs. In Mormon, gambling is strictly prohibited.
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I have two family members that are LDS. Both families gamble at casinos on occasion. One in Az, one in Utah.


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Mormons are opposed to gambling, whereas caffeine is forbidden. There is a difference.
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Mormons are opposed to gambling, whereas caffeine is forbidden. There is a difference.
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Rules get broken. I was talking to a licensed brothel lady at a table in Wendover and she told me she sees the Mormon underwear every day.
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November 12th, 2025 at 10:28:40 AM permalink
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Mormons are opposed to gambling, whereas caffeine is forbidden. There is a difference.
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Rules get broken. I was talking to a licensed brothel lady at a table in Wendover and she told me she sees the Mormon underwear every day.
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Sin is allowed failure. Then it is forgiven. win win.

I don’t know if Mormons have some exceptions like the Catholics where sin isn’t forgiven.

I said that about the Catholics without looking it up though.
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November 12th, 2025 at 10:41:21 AM permalink
ChatGPT - It is not okay to call members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) "Mormons" because the Church officially asks people to stop using the term. The Church prefers the use of its full name, or terms like "Latter-day Saints" or "members of The Church of Jesus Christ". The word "Mormon" is acceptable only in specific historical contexts like the "Mormon Trail" or for the "Book of Mormon" scripture.
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November 12th, 2025 at 11:03:31 AM permalink
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Mormons are opposed to gambling, whereas caffeine is forbidden. There is a difference.
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Rules get broken. I was talking to a licensed brothel lady at a table in Wendover and she told me she sees the Mormon underwear every day.
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Sin is allowed failure. Then it is forgiven. win win.

I don’t know if Mormons have some exceptions like the Catholics where sin isn’t forgiven.

I said that about the Catholics without looking it up though.
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Mormons and Catholics look at sin differently. Catholics are big on forgiveness through the church, while Mormons focus on redemption and repentance. It's a bit more complicated, but that is the gist of it.
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November 12th, 2025 at 11:06:41 AM permalink
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Mormons are opposed to gambling, whereas caffeine is forbidden. There is a difference.
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Rules get broken. I was talking to a licensed brothel lady at a table in Wendover and she told me she sees the Mormon underwear every day.
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Sin is allowed failure. Then it is forgiven. win win.

I don’t know if Mormons have some exceptions like the Catholics where sin isn’t forgiven.

I said that about the Catholics without looking it up though.
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Mormons and Catholics look at sin differently. Catholics are big on forgiveness through the church, while Mormons focus on redemption and repentance. It's a bit more complicated, but that is the gist of it.
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Well, I said that about Catholics because of the rumor about excommunication. granted I don’t study it much.
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November 12th, 2025 at 11:28:52 AM permalink
Catholics also believe in Original Sin, while the Saints don't.
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Catholics also believe in Original Sin, while the Saints don't.
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Well they're 2-8, they must be serving penance for something!
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This week I am trying to learn Pai Gow Tiles (which will surely be the hardest game to add to my website). I learned that according to folk beliefs, the order of ranked pairs in Pai Gow Tiles symbolically represents the creation of the universe in Chinese mythology.

Whether this was by design, or thought of later, I think it showcases an example of how religion can blend with gambling.

Also, as mathematicians (some of us), I think we are doing work that is inherently spiritual, but I don't know if this forum would be an acceptable place to discuss that. Math and religion both posit that the universe is bound by invisible truths that are real and eternal, that only the initiated can learn after years of study.

However, at the same time, I am guessing that the average religiosity in this forum is low compared to the general population.

Finally I want to clarify, that I am not a member of the Druze faith, I just changed my profile picture to the Druze flag as an act of solidarity a few months ago due to current events in Syria that are certainly beyond the scope of this forum.
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November 21st, 2025 at 1:24:11 PM permalink
I’m a beginner player in Pai Gow Tiles and here is my understanding of this game. It probably came from south China or South Asia. As I understand it, it probably is not related to any religion or belief. In modern poker, players often call a deuce duck because the number 2 looks like a duck. Similarly, in Pai Gow Tiles, players call the 4th rank tile goose because the dots arrangement are carved into a goose shape. This connection is intended for facilitating memorization. In my opinion, Pai Gow Tiles are not really tiles. They are more like bone poker cards.
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November 21st, 2025 at 2:52:53 PM permalink
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In my opinion, Pai Gow Tiles are not really tiles. They are more like bone poker cards.
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(snip!)

My set are dominoes, and were sold primarily for use in another game - Tien Gow.
The dominoes (tiles) themselves are common to many games, similar to playing cards being common among cribbage, poker, rummy, euchre, 21, and (of course) Go Fish.

I do agree that there are notable differences between the dominoes and the tiles used in games like Mahjong.
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November 21st, 2025 at 4:59:54 PM permalink
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In my opinion, Pai Gow Tiles are not really tiles. They are more like bone poker cards.
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(snip!)

My set are dominoes, and were sold primarily for use in another game - Tien Gow.

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Oooh, you play tien gow? I long for the day when I can find three other people to play!
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November 21st, 2025 at 5:23:32 PM permalink
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In my opinion, Pai Gow Tiles are not really tiles. They are more like bone poker cards.
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(snip!)

My set are dominoes, and were sold primarily for use in another game - Tien Gow.

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Oooh, you play tien gow? I long for the day when I can find three other people to play!
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I wish!
I saw the domino set on offer at my preferred Asian grocery. I wouldn't justify $80 for a set of mahjong tiles I'll never use, I certainly won't justify the space for a mahjong table, but I can swing the negligible storage space and $20 for a set of dominoes.

The cashier had some problems ringing it up (no barcode), so I suggested "I think they're for Pai Gow".
She found them listed in the POS computer under Tien Gow Set.
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November 21st, 2025 at 6:03:08 PM permalink
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This week I am trying to learn Pai Gow Tiles (which will surely be the hardest game to add to my website). I learned that according to folk beliefs, the order of ranked pairs in Pai Gow Tiles symbolically represents the creation of the universe in Chinese mythology.

Whether this was by design, or thought of later, I think it showcases an example of how religion can blend with gambling.

Also, as mathematicians (some of us), I think we are doing work that is inherently spiritual, but I don't know if this forum would be an acceptable place to discuss that. Math and religion both posit that the universe is bound by invisible truths that are real and eternal, that only the initiated can learn after years of study.

However, at the same time, I am guessing that the average religiosity in this forum is low compared to the general population.



You might be surprised. That the intelligent and educated are diminished or devoid of religious beliefs is a stereotype, promoted by the social and political styles in many academic environments and echoed by media and entertainment. But in reality that's not so, just that exceptional people are inclined to express their religious ideas in exceptional ways, rather than the ordinary ways of ordinary people. So instead of "If you do that you'll go to Hell! Says so right in the Bible!" someone might be thinking "Is this harmful to myself or others in any way? Am I setting a good or a bad example for others? Would this make our Creator proud of his creation, and as the creation do I not have this duty to my Creator?" The only one I worry about in my gaming career is being a bad example. The kind of game I play, other people see me at the table pouring booze down my throat, dirtytalking the cocktail waitress, making bets and plays of the "Kids, don't try this at home" character, and for some inexplicable reason, winning. I can't explain to them why this is perfectly safe and enriching for me, but is destructive for almost everyone else and they should not take it as an example of what they should do in a casino.

It all started with Descartes and the Natural Philosophers, who put numbers to physical reality. People knew about math and they could observe physical reality but up until them they hadn't fully made this connection. If you have a swinging pendulum, the motion of that pendulum does not depend on luck, or the will of God, or the righteousness or wickedness of the person starting the pendulum, but by natural laws that do not change and that can be expressed with a mathematical equation. But they did not see that as a rejection of the Judeo-Christian God but a testimony to his grandeur, that he rules the universe with a universal and eternal law, rather than being like a pagan's little nature sprite who gratifies himself by messing with your pendulum. The mathematically educated see casino games in the same way- they all can be described by math working on initial conditions, while the less sophisticated don't recognize that and may instead see it as a matter of luck or fate of the individual playing.

This incidentally influenced to the predestinationist branch of Christianity, because it was believed that perfect knowledge of initial conditions to which is applied perfect calculations would result in perfect knowledge of all points in the future, which would falsify the idea of free will for mankind. And a God who is omniscient and omnipotent would have both perfect knowledge of initial conditions and perfect calculations. But they did not consider that an omnipotent God would also have the power to say "Surprise me" and give man free will anyway, as well as create a physical universe with uncertainty once you look at things down on the quantum level, making everything incalculable over a long enough time.

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Finally I want to clarify, that I am not a member of the Druze faith, I just changed my profile picture to the Druze flag as an act of solidarity a few months ago due to current events in Syria that are certainly beyond the scope of this forum.
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Thanks for clarifying that! I didn't recognize the flag, and was afraid to ask because it might have been the flag of some new gender.
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November 22nd, 2025 at 2:58:20 AM permalink
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You might be surprised. That the intelligent and educated are diminished or devoid of religious beliefs is a stereotype, promoted by the social and political styles in many academic environments and echoed by media and entertainment. But in reality that's not so



When you make these statements what you should first do is spend 10 seconds googling or using ai to see if they are actually true or not.

Meta-analyses (combining dozens of studies) show a modest negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, typically around r = -0.20 to -0.24
Educational attainment shows similar patterns - higher education levels correlate with lower rates of religious belief and practice
This relationship holds across different countries and cultures, though the strength varies
The correlation is stronger for religious fundamentalism than for general religious belief
It's more pronounced in some demographics (younger people, certain cultural contexts) than others

Your comments would still be mostly valid if you went with "this is less accurate" or "there is only a modest correlation". But you didn't do that. You went off on one in complete ignorance after denying an easily checked truth. The stream of consciousness stuff is fine but it has to have some kind of framework in reality or no one can trust what you are saying.
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You might be surprised. That the intelligent and educated are diminished or devoid of religious beliefs is a stereotype, promoted by the social and political styles in many academic environments and echoed by media and entertainment. But in reality that's not so



When you make these statements what you should first do is spend 10 seconds googling or using ai to see if they are actually true or not.

Meta-analyses (combining dozens of studies) show a modest negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, typically around r = -0.20 to -0.24
Educational attainment shows similar patterns - higher education levels correlate with lower rates of religious belief and practice
This relationship holds across different countries and cultures, though the strength varies
The correlation is stronger for religious fundamentalism than for general religious belief
It's more pronounced in some demographics (younger people, certain cultural contexts) than others

Your comments would still be mostly valid if you went with "this is less accurate" or "there is only a modest correlation". But you didn't do that. You went off on one in complete ignorance after denying an easily checked truth. The stream of consciousness stuff is fine but it has to have some kind of framework in reality or no one can trust what you are saying.
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I guess that's not crypto-religious thinking at all, that I should consult with an AI or with a large ad server / spyware distribution service to make sure my decades of experience and observation of the highly esteemed and exceptional individuals I have worked and studied alongside are correct. After all, it might not be AI that hallucinates, but me, and humans really do have 7 fingers bent at odd angles on their hands.

While your at it, you can run your symptoms through these oracles and find out which Axis II personality disorders are indicated by a person who was banned from a site but keeps compulsively coming back to harass members who are welcome. It seems only a very troubled and intellectually small person would consider this a worthwhile use of his time. I will not be engaging with you any further.
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November 22nd, 2025 at 2:21:31 PM permalink
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You might be surprised. That the intelligent and educated are diminished or devoid of religious beliefs is a stereotype, promoted by the social and political styles in many academic environments and echoed by media and entertainment. But in reality that's not so



When you make these statements what you should first do is spend 10 seconds googling or using ai to see if they are actually true or not.

Meta-analyses (combining dozens of studies) show a modest negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, typically around r = -0.20 to -0.24
Educational attainment shows similar patterns - higher education levels correlate with lower rates of religious belief and practice
This relationship holds across different countries and cultures, though the strength varies
The correlation is stronger for religious fundamentalism than for general religious belief
It's more pronounced in some demographics (younger people, certain cultural contexts) than others

Your comments would still be mostly valid if you went with "this is less accurate" or "there is only a modest correlation". But you didn't do that. You went off on one in complete ignorance after denying an easily checked truth. The stream of consciousness stuff is fine but it has to have some kind of framework in reality or no one can trust what you are saying.
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I guess that's not crypto-religious thinking at all, that I should consult with an AI or with a large ad server / spyware distribution service to make sure my decades of experience and observation of the highly esteemed and exceptional individuals I have worked and studied alongside are correct. After all, it might not be AI that hallucinates, but me, and humans really do have 7 fingers bent at odd angles on their hands.

While your at it, you can run your symptoms through these oracles and find out which Axis II personality disorders are indicated by a person who was banned from a site but keeps compulsively coming back to harass members who are welcome. It seems only a very troubled and intellectually small person would consider this a worthwhile use of his time. I will not be engaging with you any further.
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There are plenty of search options such as duckduckgo for individuals who are more privacy focused, so that's a fairly lame excuse.

You can't know something like the correlation between religion and intellect from experience, you have to look it up. If you don't know, THEN DON'T SAY IT. No one is obliging you to talk about facts that you don't know.

You and your friend gordon both seem equally hostile and defensive to being corrected on matters of simple fact, like it was some kind of personal attack. I don't care whether you engage or not, I'm going to point out when you or any one comes out with obvious bullshit.
(oh i've suddenly been brushed aside by legions of enthusiastic individuals rushing to converse with you......).
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November 22nd, 2025 at 3:59:19 PM permalink
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You might be surprised. That the intelligent and educated are diminished or devoid of religious beliefs is a stereotype, promoted by the social and political styles in many academic environments and echoed by media and entertainment. But in reality that's not so



When you make these statements what you should first do is spend 10 seconds googling or using ai to see if they are actually true or not.

Meta-analyses (combining dozens of studies) show a modest negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, typically around r = -0.20 to -0.24
Educational attainment shows similar patterns - higher education levels correlate with lower rates of religious belief and practice
This relationship holds across different countries and cultures, though the strength varies
The correlation is stronger for religious fundamentalism than for general religious belief
It's more pronounced in some demographics (younger people, certain cultural contexts) than others

Your comments would still be mostly valid if you went with "this is less accurate" or "there is only a modest correlation". But you didn't do that. You went off on one in complete ignorance after denying an easily checked truth. The stream of consciousness stuff is fine but it has to have some kind of framework in reality or no one can trust what you are saying.
link to original post



I guess that's not crypto-religious thinking at all, that I should consult with an AI or with a large ad server / spyware distribution service to make sure my decades of experience and observation of the highly esteemed and exceptional individuals I have worked and studied alongside are correct. After all, it might not be AI that hallucinates, but me, and humans really do have 7 fingers bent at odd angles on their hands.

While your at it, you can run your symptoms through these oracles and find out which Axis II personality disorders are indicated by a person who was banned from a site but keeps compulsively coming back to harass members who are welcome. It seems only a very troubled and intellectually small person would consider this a worthwhile use of his time. I will not be engaging with you any further.
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There are plenty of search options such as duckduckgo for individuals who are more privacy focused, so that's a fairly lame excuse.

You can't know something like the correlation between religion and intellect from experience, you have to look it up. If you don't know, THEN DON'T SAY IT. No one is obliging you to talk about facts that you don't know.

You and your friend gordon both seem equally hostile and defensive to being corrected on matters of simple fact, like it was some kind of personal attack. I don't care whether you engage or not, I'm going to point out when you or any one comes out with obvious bullshit.
(oh i've suddenly been brushed aside by legions of enthusiastic individuals rushing to converse with you......).
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3 day suspension for profanity. Also, your emails here and in other threads cross the line of abuse and/or personal attacks against other members. You are free to discuss your ideas (other than controversial topics like politics), but any put-downs of other members is inappropriate. This is a forum focussed on gambling, Vegas and math and has rules about impolite remarks against other members of the forum. If you cannot abide by these rules, then I suggest you try other social media.
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November 23rd, 2025 at 1:52:31 AM permalink
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I was wondering if there is any religion that doesn't either discourage or forbid gambling?

From what I can see - Islam, the Bahai Faith, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism forbid gambling while Judaism, Hinduism, and most Christian sects simply discourage casino gambling. I cannot find much information about Zoroastrian teachings about gambling but I think it is either discouraged or prohibited. If anyone has insights from other religions or from specific sects/branches, I would be interested in hearing them.

From my own religious knowledge, I know that Judaism does not prohibit giving money to charitable lotteries because the participants will be happy even if they lose. Otherwise Judaism looks down on gambling, though interestingly we play the gambling game Dreidel on Hanukkah and it seems like we used to play a Blackjack-like game.
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Interesting topic. Most religions either discourage or forbid gambling, but there are a few that stay more neutral and leave it to personal responsibility, especially some modern Christian groups.

I’ve also seen that in some cultures the religion doesn’t address gambling directly, so it comes down to local customs instead.

Your point about charitable lotteries in Judaism makes sense, many faiths seem more relaxed when the purpose is community benefit rather than personal profit.
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November 23rd, 2025 at 7:39:32 AM permalink
The Catholic view is that gambling is okay as long as it doesn't lead to addiction and doesn't interfere with a person's obligations to his family, the poor, and the church. Gambling and games of chance are not evil and are considered neutral. Rigging a game and cheating are sins.
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