darkoz
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January 29th, 2010 at 11:28:40 PM permalink
In Atlantic City where the minimums on Roulette are $5 on a really slow day and $15 on holidays, you can forget about single zero roulette being less than $25. It usually is $100 minimums.

But at some casino's particularly the Tropicana, you can play 25 cents single zero. It is a video simulated game but the odds are the same and supposedly you have the same outcome of any video simulated game like at Bodog or what the Wizard does.

Of all the slots there, the slots roulette is the only ones you cannot use your bus comp on, so I suspect the odds are much better(about the same as at the real tables)than the casino's prefer for you to be using your bus comp on.

Whenever I go, these machines are empty and I win a decent amount. So just thought I would let other know. It's the only way to enjoy single zero without breaking your own bank.
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odiousgambit
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January 30th, 2010 at 3:22:07 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

the odds are the same



are you sure about that? if it isn't so stated I wouldnt assume it.
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cclub79
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January 30th, 2010 at 7:07:16 AM permalink
We have discussed these before. I believe they are fair. Wizard has suggested there are laws on the books that if a game represents a card or table game, it must provide a "fair" game. They can get away with a higher edge by changing payouts (like even money blackjack), but most of the Bally machine pay tables are the same as the table games. Incidentally, a sticker has been added to the games that say "For every $20, you earn 1 rewards credit." Much less than typical slots or even their video poker.
boymimbo
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January 30th, 2010 at 7:49:44 AM permalink
Video poker machines have been simulating 21 and Let It Ride for a long time. The Let it Ride game played on the video poker machines with a HA of about 3.57%. Similarly Video Blackjack has a HA of about 3%. The single zero video roulette game have the 2.70% HA so it's similar to other video table game devices.

My opinion that it's a great deal at 2.70% but that you'll find that most players will get bored with playing red or black at the quarter minimum. I'm not sure but does the quarter minimum is a "per number" minimum meaning that if you want to play each individual number, that's .25 x the numbers. In that case, you might get slot players at the quarter denominations playing alot of credits.
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cclub79
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January 30th, 2010 at 8:33:20 AM permalink
Most have a variable denom like some slots. You can cycle through minimums of 25 cents, 50 cents, 1 dollar, 2 dollars, 5 dollars. At Phila Parx, you can only choose 1/2/5 dollars. Other PA places let you go to 10 dollars min...and it's just that; if you wanted to, you could bet 25 cents each spin, inside, outside, wherever.
darkoz
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January 30th, 2010 at 9:10:50 AM permalink
The ones at the trop have 25 and 50 cent minimum chips. Individual numbers can be bet for the minimum chip only, so at the quarter machine, a bet on 00 would cost you 25 cents.

But I don't know what the max is. I don't normally play martingales(actually I play a variation called a Fibonaci) but I decided a martingale with a total risk of $60 wouldn't be too bad. I was working up to bets of $20 with no problem. I ended up losing my stake only once, turning a profit the other times.
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Transender46
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January 30th, 2010 at 9:09:37 PM permalink
I tried cancellation betting on the 25 cent tropicana machines and was disappointed to discover they have rather low maximum bets.
cclub79
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January 31st, 2010 at 7:15:12 AM permalink
Did you try to touch the spot that had the 25c written on it? A lot of times, you can change the min bet to 50c, $1, or more. This can substantially raise the maximum at your own discretion.

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