AZDuffman
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April 23rd, 2011 at 2:28:57 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Did you get that from NewsMax too? It's not difficult to see why they would get a story so wrong what with their continuing exhaustive searches for Barry HUSSEIN Obummer's birth certificate in Tanzania or wherever he was supposed to have been born.



No, got it by watching his speech then watching the dems make their usual "the world will end if *any* government funding is cut" remarks the past month. Perhaps you need to watch an outlet other than CBS?
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timberjim
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April 23rd, 2011 at 3:38:01 PM permalink
AZ, remember that it is a complete waste of time to point out facts to liberals. They have blinders on and refuse to accept facts. They believe they are smarter than anyone that disagrees with them.

There are news clips all over the place of elected dems declaring armageddon if any government funding is cut.

Liberals resort to changing the subject, ignoring the facts, and if that doesn't work, call names. We see this repeatedly on this forum from the same contributors.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 6:45:51 PM permalink
Quote: timberjim

Liberals resort to changing the subject, ignoring the facts, and if that doesn't work, call names. We see this repeatedly on this forum from the same contributors.



Replace liberals with conservatives, and you can state exactly the same. Both sides do that shit. It's standard politics (aka a waste of everyone's time).
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April 23rd, 2011 at 6:50:28 PM permalink
Quote: timberjim

AZ, remember that it is a complete waste of time to point out facts to liberals. They have blinders on and refuse to accept facts. They believe they are smarter than anyone that disagrees with them.

There are news clips all over the place of elected dems declaring armageddon if any government funding is cut.

Liberals resort to changing the subject, ignoring the facts, and if that doesn't work, call names. We see this repeatedly on this forum from the same contributors.



Yeah, I have yet to see AZ (a well versed resident conservative) say that he's wrong on anything politically. Both sides are heavily polarized.

This Canadian remarks that there's no excuse for the US government to increase spending by 90 percent in 10 years and at the same time lower taxes in effect decreasing revenue and widening the fiscal gap. Both sides of the aisle in all branches of government need to reduce expenses (drastically) and increase revenue (slowly).

My question to you conservatives out there is that the Republican congress passed the 2012 budget and it only contained 38 billion dollars of cuts (the CBO says only 352 milion). With months to work towards an agreement, why was only 38 billion cut? It should be more like 300 billion. Republicans are just a complicit in all of this. At least democrats practice what they preach bad as it is for the nation. Republicans say out of one side of their mouth to cut spending yet pass a bill to increase it.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 6:56:54 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

This Canadian remarks that there's no excuse for the US government to increase spending by 90 percent in 10 years and at the same time lower taxes in effect decreasing revenue and widening the fiscal gap.



Lower taxes increase revenue, especially in slow economic times. Think about it: do businesses raise prices when their sales drop or lower them? Ask yourself why Walmart is so successful by offering lower prices than the competition.

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My question to you conservatives out there is that the Republican congress passed the 2012 budget and it only contained 38 billion dollars of cuts (the CBO says only 352 milion).



Were there any cuts at all?

If the 2011 budget is higher than the 2010 one, as I suspect, then there's an increase. The "cuts" mean only the increase is smaller.

Don't you love it when someone spends $3.25 trillion one year, then instead of $4 trillion the next year he decides to spend only $3.6 trillion and claims to have "cut" the budget?
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thecesspit
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April 23rd, 2011 at 7:00:48 PM permalink
There's a general myth that right wing parties cut spending. Government of all stripes seems to slowly increase spending. Thatcher did it. Regan did it. Blair did it. Clinton did it.

There's multiple reasons for it, and not least is that conservatives aren't all of the same view of minimal government, and left-wingers (liberals are centrists where I come from) aren't all about free hand outs to everyone who can pocket the cash.

No-one likes THEIR pet project to be cut, be it free clinics for the over-55's or the tax break for forestry companies.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 8:53:26 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Yeah, I have yet to see AZ (a well versed resident conservative) say that he's wrong on anything politically.



Just politically? I have yet to see him acquiesce to any point. Even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the opposite.
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timberjim
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April 24th, 2011 at 2:43:20 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Replace liberals with conservatives, and you can state exactly the same. Both sides do that shit. It's standard politics (aka a waste of everyone's time).



Yes, I agree and should have said it more like you did. The extremists on both sides tend to garner all the publicity.
AZDuffman
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April 24th, 2011 at 7:27:12 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Yeah, I have yet to see AZ (a well versed resident conservative) say that he's wrong on anything politically. Both sides are heavily polarized.



Show me I am wrong on a statement of fact and I will admit I am wrong. (eg: if I had said the Flamingo and Bellagio were on the same side of the street when they are clearly not.) But thank you for the "well versed" qualifier, btw.

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My question to you conservatives out there is that the Republican congress passed the 2012 budget and it only contained 38 billion dollars of cuts (the CBO says only 352 milion). With months to work towards an agreement, why was only 38 billion cut? It should be more like 300 billion. Republicans are just a complicit in all of this. At least democrats practice what they preach bad as it is for the nation. Republicans say out of one side of their mouth to cut spending yet pass a bill to increase it.



The GOP has not yet passed the 2012 budget. The recently concluded budget talks were on the 2011 budget which Nancy Pelosi was unable or unwilling to pass. 2012 negotiations are just now starting. the $38 billion cuts are from 2011. It is hard to cut from a budget halfway thru the fiscal year for both procedural and practical reasons.
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April 24th, 2011 at 8:23:54 AM permalink
"Casino expert" was redundant. He's an expert at everything.

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