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unJon
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July 7th, 2021 at 9:24:12 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

The pitboss knew about the feature, the VP confirmed the capability, and MDawg wrote about it earlier in this thread.

The industry reporter had never heard of such a thing.

How would MDawg have known about the feature, if not disclosed to him by the pitboss?



Wrong read. The hypothesis is that the pit boss knew about the capability and told MDawg. Pit boss was wrong that capability was turned on. But keep trying. 😂
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coachbelly
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July 7th, 2021 at 9:32:21 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Wrong read. The hypothesis is that the pit boss knew about the capability and told MDawg. Pit boss was wrong that capability was turned on. But keep trying. 😂



The hypothesis is correct, the pitboss knew and he told MDawg.

We don't know whether or not the feature was active when he told MDawg,
apparently the pitboss thought that it was active.

My read is that the reporter endeavored to determine if the capability existed,
and that he doubted that it did exist.
Last edited by: coachbelly on Jul 7, 2021
coachbelly
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July 7th, 2021 at 9:35:00 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

You need to see how bets are made and collected and paid.



I have played table games and have seen how bets are made, collected and paid.

What's your point...that the chips can't be scanned in a stack, in the dealer's rack, or on the player's spot, that they need to be scanned individually?
AlanMendelson
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July 7th, 2021 at 10:35:04 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

I have played table games and have seen how bets are made, collected and paid.

What's your point...that the chips can't be scanned in a stack, in the dealer's rack, or on the player's spot, that they need to be scanned individually?



Instead of asking why dont you go back in this thread and read exactly what I wrote. My position has not changed.
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July 7th, 2021 at 11:05:47 PM permalink
Seen that Wendy's commercial, trying to be hip hop cool? "Troll Alert, Major Troll Alert!"
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coachbelly
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July 7th, 2021 at 11:14:57 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Instead of asking why dont you go back in this thread and read exactly what I wrote. My position has not changed.


Your position is that scanning the chips would cause a delay, or some kind of bookkeeping nightmare.

Here's what you wrote...
Quote: AlanMendelson

Does the dealer say, "hold on Mr Mdawg while I scan these chips into your account"?



Quote: AlanMendelson

Imagine the slowdown if chips had to be scanned each and every time they were collected or paid out by the dealers.


You don't know that scanning the chips would cause a slowdown, you're just assuming that it would.

From what MDawg wrote, the floor person is not keeping track of the bets, it's done electronically.

The chips are scanned all at once, without delay, when placed into the player's spot by the player as a bet, placed into the player's spot by the dealer to pay a winning bet, and when collected and placed into the dealer's rack.

According to the VP, this is how they track chips "for accurate player ratings at the tables, as well as verifying in the trays and at cashier during redemptions."
billryan
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July 7th, 2021 at 11:30:01 PM permalink
Sounds like a great opportunity.
AlanMendelson
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July 8th, 2021 at 4:06:19 AM permalink
I yield to both Mdawg and Coach Belly. They know. How do I know that they know? Because they have all the answers.

Coach Belly even knows the procedure for a procedure not even in use.

I will say nothing more.
redietz
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July 8th, 2021 at 5:00:39 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I yield to both Mdawg and Coach Belly. They know. How do I know that they know? Because they have all the answers.

Coach Belly even knows the procedure for a procedure not even in use.

I will say nothing more.




Yeah, I know nothing about RFD chips, but I may know more than some people. LOL.

I suspect the weak link in MDawg's account is the word "disallowed." I'm behind the times, but the idea that swapping RFD chips with other people would be disallowed is a stretch.

RFD chips have been around forever; they just haven't been used continually. I think the LVA did some summaries a couple of years ago regarding which places used RFD chips at what stakes. The topic always came up after a robbery or two.

Basically, and high end poker players would know way better than me, my understanding is that RFD chips serve to:

1) Prevent counterfeiting.
2) Make accounting easier when large numbers of chips are out circulating in the world (as they are among poker players).
3) Help prevent players from creating loss mirages when they have actually won.

I thought the RFD chips just smoothed out the logistics of accounting for the house -- making it easy to know the provenance of the chips. Not to actually restrict their use.

I don't quite grasp what is being claimed by MDawg and coach here. Nothing new. I am easily confused by tech. Are they saying you can't hand chips off to a partner or family member or friend? That seems unlikely.
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ChumpChange
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July 8th, 2021 at 5:05:37 AM permalink
I kind of need a digital readout of how many chips I have in front of me, and how many I bet. I guess that's reserved for the dealer.

I complained to a craps table at my local casino that the table limits video screens were washed out and unreadable, at basically all tables everywhere. They pointed to one screen that was dark & out of order. The next time I came back to the casino, all the table limit signs were fixed and bold and readable.

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