darkoz
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March 27th, 2015 at 9:16:39 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Wow, it is amazing you are right 80% of the time. That is such a nice round number.

This is a simple example of confirmation bias. You remember the times you were right, and forget the times you were wrong. This happens every day in almost every area of human existence. There is no shame in falling for it.

The only way to be sure you can predict the bonus round is to set a strict standard of what you are trying to predict, when you expect it will come, and keep detailed records. As you collect more and more records, your confidence in your prediction ability will grow.

Failing that, it's simply confirmation bias, nothing more, nothing less.



Since there is no advantage play I don't care about all that. It would be a colossal waste of my time. And 80% is a round number. Maybe its 78% of the time. Maybe, if it makes you feel better, its confirmation bias.

There are a lot of people who claim the AP I actually do is not possible (I've read threads on here and on other message boards) and yet I found a way to do it and I make tens of thousands of dollars a month. So should I just look at the money I won and sum it up to confirmation bias?
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sodawater
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March 27th, 2015 at 9:20:53 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So should I just look at the money I won and sum it up to confirmation bias?



Yes. That is exactly what you should do.

You have to make predictions BEFORE they happen. You can't win a bonus round or win money and say "oh, I knew that would happen."

Similarly, you can't look at money you won and claim anything about your prediction powers.

Is it possible that through a programming error, certain machines have bonus rounds that are not truly random? Sure. But if you don't have records, and you are just basing it on a nebulous sense of your own positive memories, you don't have an actual predictive advantage. You're just like everyone else who attributes random variance to something else.
BedWetterBetter
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June 23rd, 2015 at 12:41:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz



They still hand out the free-play the same in AC. You don't need to use your CET card. Just show your ID and don't get on the line for your players card. However, you will need to use someone's card when you eventually play the voucher. At Bally's, current vouchers expire on April 30.



I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but the machine will reject multiple Bus Vouchers for the same player's card.

I tried to play 4 vouchers on one machine and it kept spitting the ticket back out. The only thing you can do to combine all the free play is , insert one player's card and insert 1 voucher. Then remove that card and insert a Different player's card.

Then when you have completed all the tickets , you can re-insert the player's card you do want rated and play all the credits.

On the downside, whenever you download credits from a Trump Taj bus voucher and remove your card before playing the credits, they lock your account.

I tried combining two offers at Taj, one of $15 and the other for $25, and they ended up locking both accounts.
NokTang
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June 24th, 2015 at 4:46:40 AM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but the machine will reject multiple Bus Vouchers for the same player's card.

I tried to play 4 vouchers on one machine and it kept spitting the ticket back out. The only thing you can do to combine all the free play is , insert one player's card and insert 1 voucher. Then remove that card and insert a Different player's card.

Then when you have completed all the tickets , you can re-insert the player's card you do want rated and play all the credits.

On the downside, whenever you download credits from a Trump Taj bus voucher and remove your card before playing the credits, they lock your account.

I tried combining two offers at Taj, one of $15 and the other for $25, and they ended up locking both accounts.



Never knew so much involved in slot machine play and bus vouchers.

Can we ask, are you able at least on a one time basis, simply get the $25.usd in currency going through the motions of inserting it in a machine with a valid players card, the as I say, asking for the cash?
darkoz
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June 24th, 2015 at 5:51:06 AM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but the machine will reject multiple Bus Vouchers for the same player's card.

I tried to play 4 vouchers on one machine and it kept spitting the ticket back out. The only thing you can do to combine all the free play is , insert one player's card and insert 1 voucher. Then remove that card and insert a Different player's card.

Then when you have completed all the tickets , you can re-insert the player's card you do want rated and play all the credits.

On the downside, whenever you download credits from a Trump Taj bus voucher and remove your card before playing the credits, they lock your account.

I tried combining two offers at Taj, one of $15 and the other for $25, and they ended up locking both accounts.



I had that happen to me once but it is not the norm. It is probably select slots. You CAN place multiple vouchers into the machine on the same player's card. I did it just three days ago.

We're talking CET casinos.
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BedWetterBetter
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June 25th, 2015 at 8:42:08 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Never knew so much involved in slot machine play and bus vouchers.

Can we ask, are you able at least on a one time basis, simply get the $25.usd in currency going through the motions of inserting it in a machine with a valid players card, the as I say, asking for the cash?




When they first started the concept of Slot vouchers, yes, you COULD cash out the original amount and redeem at the cage/bill breaker.

Now it is Mandatory that you play every penny of the slot voucher and only your WINNINGS are allowed to be redeemed. If you do not win anything, then it is over and you are back where you started.

And Darkoz, I am referring to CET properties. I have tried at least 5 different $1 slot machines (Blazing 7's, Quick Hits, WOF, Double Diamond, and Wild Roses) Me and my friend would try to combine our vouchers in the machine and it would spit out the 2nd ticket. Until I removed my player's card and used theirs, then it would accept a 2nd ticket and allow us to play all the credits together.

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