Layoffs begin at Revel
Quote: treetopbuddyPlease don't tell me there were layoffs in the smoke free Noodle Bar....please
What noodle bar?
Quote: aceofspadesWhat noodle bar?
The Noodle Bar is right next to the cigarette machine
Quote: EvenBobStill no buffet. Still mostly non smoking. They're doomed.
Mostly? It is still all non-smoking
Quote: aceofspadesMostly? It is still all non-smoking
Are you there? Whats your report?
Quote: EvenBobAre you there? Whats your report?
No, I am not there but have been there recently
Quote: aceofspadesMostly? It is still all non-smoking
Who cares Revel is losing their ass, it's smoke free and Revel can feel good about protecting their patrons (the few they have). The smokers get to hang out with the seagulls. Now that's hospitality! Nothing worse than the anti-smoking crowd.
Quote: aceofspadesNo, I am not there
Please return soon, I'm jonsing for a real trip report,
not the kind Chauncy filed before he fell off the face
of the earth.
By the way, where have BHappy and UKStages been lately? Sounds like they also jumped off the Revel bandwagon. Or, as I suggested, they actuially are/were Kevin DeSanctis trying to defend himself and his actions online.
Quote: BozNothing like layoffs going into the summer season. Just shows how mismanaged this place was from Day 1 under Kevin. It took 11 months of declining revenues from the opening to start laying people off.
By the way, where have BHappy and UKStages been lately? Sounds like they also jumped off the Revel bandwagon. Or, as I suggested, they actuially are/were Kevin DeSanctis trying to defend himself and his actions online.
I cannot find the article, but I believe with the tax incentive they received, Revel could not lay anyone off until their 1-year anniversary
Quote: EvenBobPlease return soon, I'm jonsing for a real trip report,
not the kind Chauncy filed before he fell off the face
of the earth.
You interested in anything in particular? I'll be going down in two weeks. Don't know that my play will be interesting enough to warrant a blow by blow but I'd be happy to check out any conditions anyone is curious about.
Quote: gts4everYou interested in anything in particular? I'll be going down in two weeks. Don't know that my play will be interesting enough to warrant a blow by blow but I'd be happy to check out any conditions anyone is curious about.
You can't top Ace, he throws caution to the wind
when he plays.
Quote: EvenBobAre you there? Whats your report?
We were there last weekend, Bob, and it is still 100% non smoking. There are signs at all the entrances stressing that it is a smoke-free property.
Although we are not smokers, that policy (and the no buffet policy) are emblematic of how deeply they are disconnected from their market.
Borgata allows smoking; we do not feel imposed upon when we share that property with smokers.
We've stayed at the following world class casinos/resorts, all of which offer buffets: Borgata, Bellagio, Atlantis, Fairview Orchid (Kohala coast), Four Seasons (Kona coast), Grand Floridian, Skytop Lodge, Marriot Marquis... those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more. Every one is a nicer hotel or resort than Revel.
Buffets are offered for the convenience of the guests. Smoking is offered to accommodate guests' lifestyles. Revel seems to be more concerned with making guests adapt to their notion of what a resort should be, rather than being a resort that appeals to its guests.
The Borgota is probably the best deal of all the casinos. When I was there, they had a single $5 BJ table for the low rollers. AC limits are really high. The lowest table is $10 at most games, with Caesars being min $25. The craps, when I was there was 3,4,5x odds in every casino. Forget 100x odds or 10x odds. The best odds I saw were at Taj, which for 25 min, they had 10x odds. The Taj is run down and gritty nowadays. I will never play craps with more than a $5 pass, and I refuse to play craps without 100x odds.
A hint about Bacc, if you're a high roller, is that if you wire at least a million, you can make a deal for 4% commission and make dead chip deals, as I know of a few new York guys who regularly risk 7 figures. Dead chip deals in Macau seem to be more generous, but I haven't hear of anyone getting 4% commission deals in Macau. Many years ago, I went to AC regularly on the coattails of my NY friends and I would get little deals, including the 4%, but my budget at the time was 100,000. I've never gambled with 7 figures.
The BJ rules were terrible strip Vegas rules.
The biggest annoyance is that they charge for parking, except for at the showboat, where they had free parking. The gall of a casino to charge for parking. It's like they have a monopoly mentality and they think they don't have to compete. Sure, the state mandates the fee, but the casino should at least comp the parking, or push back against the charges. I'm betting dollars to donuts that if the casinos protested the parking fee, then the state would capitulate.
AC sucks.
Quote: klimate10The craps, when I was there was 3,4,5x odds in every casino.
Wrong. Borgata has 5x craps -- and has for years.
Quote: klimate10
The biggest annoyance is that they charge for parking, except for at the showboat, where they had free parking. The gall of a casino to charge for parking. It's like they have a monopoly mentality and they think they don't have to compete. Sure, the state mandates the fee, but the casino should at least comp the parking, or push back against the charges. I'm betting dollars to donuts that if the casinos protested the parking fee, then the state would capitulate.
You seem to be a much, much, much higher roller than I am, and I have never once paid for parking in AC, and that's 100s of trips.
Quote: klimate10Sorry, I didn't mention in my post that it's been at least ten years since I was in Atlantic city.
It's been a couple years for me, but every place I was at last had 5x, with Wild Wild West having 100x. Don't know if they still do.
Can someone confirm minimums and odds? Does any place have 100x odds with $5 min?
Wild west hasn`t had table games for probably a year.Quote: cclub79It's been a couple years for me, but every place I was at last had 5x, with Wild Wild West having 100x. Don't know if they still do.
Quote: HunterhillWild west hasn`t had table games for probably a year.
Wild Wild West has been basically closed, except for the bar and a few slot machines, for more than a year. Sort of balances with all the closings in the Claridge. Arthur Goldberg must be rolling in his grave.
Quote: klimate10100x odds in AC? I'll check. If the mins are $5, I will make a trip back. I've always wanted to write a TR on the Revel.
Can someone confirm minimums and odds? Does any place have 100x odds with $5 min?
Revel has 3-4-5 odds with $5 minimums during the week.
A few places in AC have 10x odds.
So if they practically closed WWW, then is there still that bridge that connects WWW with the other casino, whatever that casino might be?
Quote: SanchoPanzaWild Wild West has been basically closed, except for the bar and a few slot machines, for more than a year. Sort of balances with all the closings in the Claridge. Arthur Goldberg must be rolling in his grave.
When you're trying to even go to Wild, wild west, the security guard lied to me trying to tell me there were no machines down the hallway, but I knew he was lying and went anyways.
Quote: klimate10Many casinos in the Midwest, where I am from, have 100x odds. I'm thinking that Jack Binion had a lot to do with the spread of 100x odds in the Midwest. Tons of casinos in Midwest have 100x odds, and I am spoiled to the point where 10x seems unplayable. It seems every Horseshoe branded property has 100x. After playing in Midwest casinos, I will probably never go back to the east coast, which is sad because I love certain parts of the east. I wish eastern casinos had better odds and was more gambler friendly (you don't see Midwest odds, you don't see favorable BJ rules, and you never see stuff like liberal Barona style games). Maybe, I'm guessing, the odds are so stingy because the state taxes are so high. I don't know, I'm just speculating,
So if they practically closed WWW, then is there still that bridge that connects WWW with the other casino, whatever that casino might be?
Yes, every Horseshoe has 100x odds. It's a part of their schtick. What other Midwest casinos do?
Quote: klimate10Maybe, I'm guessing, the odds are so stingy because the state taxes are so high. I don't know, I'm just speculating.
For the reasoning why it doesn't exist on the east coast, it's definitely not because of taxes. NJ casinos pay less to the state than all Midwest states. PA casinos pay less for table games (16%) than all Midwest states I believe as well (examples: MO ~23%, KS ~27%, OH 33%, IN 30%) . The main reason 100X odds exist at Horseshoe because it's a holdover from the Binion days. Personally I think it's dumb for casinos to offer 100X odds or higher unless it really adds more action in the middle of the table than I would expect it to. Casinos don't want unneeded variance. Likely why the Riv got rid of the 1000X odds. Sorry to hear that they profited from your play there though.
Quote: rdw4potusYes, every Horseshoe has 100x odds. It's a part of their schtick. What other Midwest casinos do?
River City in St. Louis does. But this is the only non-Horseshoe property along with Casino Royale that I am aware of that does this; there may be others though.
Last I check isle of Capri in lake charles had 100x odds, and Coushatta definitely offers 100 odds. All those casinos offer $5(!) min with 100x odds, with exception of horseshoe in Shreveport, which goes to $10 on weekends.
Quote: klimate10The eldorado in Shreveport also offers 100x odds, most casinos in Shreveport offer 100x, think. But I mostly play at Horseshoe when in Shreveport/bossier city. I'm not sure about Boomtown, but I played there three years ago, and they had 100x.
Last I check isle of Capri in lake charles had 100x odds, and Coushatta definitely offers 100 odds. All those casinos offer $5(!) min with 100x odds, with exception of horseshoe in Shreveport, which goes to $10 on weekends.
I wouldn't call these places "midwest" though. :)
Quote: tringlomaneFor the reasoning why it doesn't exist on the east coast, it's definitely not because of taxes.
I wonder if the Horseshoe in Baltimore will be 100x odds? I hope so. And, if not, I hope it doesn't drag the rest of the chain down.
