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SanchoPanza
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January 26th, 2013 at 7:14:57 PM permalink
Quote: bigpete88

Any updates on this case?


"Almost $1 million worth of gambling chips are in legal limbo after a court ruling Friday in a high-stakes fight over unshuffled cards at the Golden Nugget Atlantic City. A state Superior Court judge ruled that Golden Nugget does not have to immediately pay gamblers their winnings from a disputed mini-baccarat game last year. Instead, the case will continue to be litigated.
At the same time, Judge James Isman refused to dismiss consumer-fraud claims filed by the gamblers against the casino. The gamblers contend that Golden Nugget tricked or defrauded them by refusing to pay up." acpress
Deucekies
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June 15th, 2014 at 2:21:20 PM permalink
Quote: sddude24

here's another update
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/13/nj-judge-rules-casino-not-liable-unshuffled-cards-/?_ga=1.71280213.454044415.1401241927


I wonder if this ruling will have any bearing in the Phil Ivey case.
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aceofspades
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June 15th, 2014 at 6:13:23 PM permalink
What would have happened if they didn't realize it and lost $1.5million…could they then sue to be reimbursed as the game was technically "illegal"?
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June 15th, 2014 at 6:44:43 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

What would have happened if they didn't realize it and lost $1.5million…could they then sue to be reimbursed as the game was technically "illegal"?



we have been talking about this in the AC thread.

My question actually is; the judge ruled that the game was illegal so that entitles the casino to keep the money. I am wondering if the players can now make another suit against the casino that they were provided an illegal game so the casino should be on the hook for that. There should be compensation of some sort to the players and the casino should be fined a huge sum of money by the gaming board.
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June 15th, 2014 at 8:18:41 PM permalink
Pre-determined pattern you mean like in order for all 4 suits?

If so how would you bet during the first 52 cards?
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June 15th, 2014 at 9:01:30 PM permalink
The correct pattern starting with the second game (if I have mapped it out correctly) is:

B, B, P, B, P,

repeat
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vendman1
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February 13th, 2015 at 5:21:52 AM permalink
Just saw this story on Yahoo Finance. Apparently the casino wins again. Though I'm sure appeals are forthcoming.

The most interesting part of the article I saw was where the casino apparently offered to let them keep the winnings in return for dropping their suit against the casino. I think I would have taken that deal. The courts always seem to side with the casino. The laws are all written for them by their lawyer(s)/lobbyist/politicians...who are often the same people.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-unshuffled-cards-void-game-012809841.html
HowMany
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February 13th, 2015 at 6:38:10 AM permalink
It's possible the cards WERE shuffled, but end up in the same order as they were before they were shuffled.

Damn near-impossible, but it IS possible, right?
SanchoPanza
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February 13th, 2015 at 8:06:44 AM permalink
The court found that the Golden Nugget was running an illegal game against state law and involving more than $1 million in civilians' money and the Golden Nugget is "pleased" with the ruling. No wonder. No penalty against the dopes was even mentioned in the news article. You really have to hand it to a system that not only condones clearly illegal actions, but then lets the perpetrators off the hook with nary a slap on the wrist.

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