Quote: darkozThe drug is still being tested by the FDA.
They don't do that if there was no hope of getting approved because the drug was just grape juice.
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The FDA doesn't test anything. They evaluate the results from tests and trials that the drug companies have done, and even collect user fees from the drug companies.
So, basically, if a company is willing to pay the costs, which may be in the hundreds of millions, the FDA will allow it to keep spinning its wheels seeking approval.
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I will take the suspension because getting the truth out there about this total fuckwad is more important.
Besides I have more important things to do. Like work on a feature film I am producing than to waste time with retards.
Thank you.
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See you in two weeks.
Good luck with the film.
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Producing a feature film and having a feature film that anybody wants to see let alone one that makes a profit are two totally different things. There are scads of people out there right this minute producing feature films and you will never hear of 99.9% of them. Over the years I knew half a dozen people in California who were always working on a film and none of them ever made any money doing it. A high school friend who sold his business for millions of dollars got talked into being a producer and he lost a ton of money. Saying that you're working on producing a movie is almost meaningless. It's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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I will take the suspension because getting the truth out there about this total fuckwad is more important.
Besides I have more important things to do. Like work on a feature film I am producing than to waste time with retards.
Thank you.
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See you in two weeks.
Good luck with the film.
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Producing a feature film and having a feature film that anybody wants to see let alone one that makes a profit are two totally different things. There are scads of people out there right this minute producing feature films and you will never hear of 99.9% of them. Over the years I knew half a dozen people in California who were always working on a film and none of them ever made any money doing it. A high school friend who sold his business for millions of dollars got talked into being a producer and he lost a ton of money. Saying that you're working on producing a movie is almost meaningless. It's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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Given darkoz's history, I think he knows how to pick a winner, or at least work on something artful that he feels needs to be made.
How's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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Given darkoz's history, I think he knows how to pick a winner, or at least work on something artful that he feels needs to be made.
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Lol! Are you trying to be funny? 100 million dollar movie flops are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. People who do it for a living, people who supposedly know what they're doing, pick dud movies all the time. Look at Disney's newest movie, you would think they know how to pick a winner. Nope.
‘Snow White’ is a Catastrophic Flop: Disney Faces Massive $115M Loss'
Quote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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What do you care. Are you paying for updates?
I'm a loving caring person!Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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What do you care.
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Quote: AxelWolfI'm a loving caring person!Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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What do you care.
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You should have that put on your business card because I don't think anybody is going to guess that on their own.
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Given darkoz's history, I think he knows how to pick a winner, or at least work on something artful that he feels needs to be made.
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Lol! Are you trying to be funny? 100 million dollar movie flops are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. People who do it for a living, people who supposedly know what they're doing, pick dud movies all the time. Look at Disney's newest movie, you would think they know how to pick a winner. Nope.
‘Snow White’ is a Catastrophic Flop: Disney Faces Massive $115M Loss'
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Sometimes people do projects to make money.
Sometimes people do projects to make art or tell a particular story, and any money recouped is a nice afterthought.
I've got a title picked out for my gambling reference book ("Everything I know about gambling" by Dieter Greene), but I'm afraid Shed Simove may have exclusive use of the format...
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfI'm a loving caring person!Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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What do you care.
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You should have that put on your business card because I don't think anybody is going to guess that on their own.
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Quote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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The book has been finished for a few years. Probably could use a final revision.
I haven't sought publication because I am still on my AP exploits.
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about. Film is art and art is about passion. I never said working on my film was a guaranteed success story. As he pointed out Disney and every other studio has flops. Gee with EB's logic, all studios should just stop making product.
As for my film, if I succeed in making it to the finish line (I'm in a bit of a race with UNSEEN opponents) then it will be history making. Which is what I am counting on to propel my film into the limelight.
I also have contacts with people pretty high up the food chain in Hollywood. I'm having dinner with one of them in two weeks. No guarantees in that direction of course but his last film was a $100 million production. I have a foot in the door. Whether the door opens or not is something for the future to hold.
What does EB care anyway. Sounds like jealousy that he doesn't do anything passionate with his life. People scared to take a gamble on a gambling site. What a twist of fate.
I was asking about HIS book. You will have to find the post where EB announced he was writing a super exclusive, highly limited edition book on how he beats roulette and selling it for like $500 a copy.Quote: darkoz
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about.
Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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The book has been finished for a few years. Probably could use a final revision.
I haven't sought publication because I am still on my AP exploits.
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about. Film is art and art is about passion. I never said working on my film was a guaranteed success story. As he pointed out Disney and every other studio has flops. Gee with EB's logic, all studios should just stop making product.
As for my film, if I succeed in making it to the finish line (I'm in a bit of a race with UNSEEN opponents) then it will be history making. Which is what I am counting on to propel my film into the limelight.
I also have contacts with people pretty high up the food chain in Hollywood. I'm having dinner with one of them in two weeks. No guarantees in that direction of course but his last film was a $100 million production. I have a foot in the door. Whether the door opens or not is something for the future to hold.
What does EB care anyway. Sounds like jealousy that he doesn't do anything passionate with his life. People scared to take a gamble on a gambling site. What a twist of fate.
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Lol! You sound exactly like everybody I've ever come across in the movie business on the producing side. They spew endless word salads about what they're trying to achieve and when they achieve absolutely nothing, which 99% of them do, they have endless platitudes and word salad silliness to explain why they failed. That's because if they didn't they would never get anybody to invest again in one of their so-called 'art' pieces. Because that's all producing a movie is really about, talking somebody else into giving you their money so you don't have to invest any of your own.
Quote: AxelWolfI was asking about HIS book. You will have to find the post where EB announced he was writing a super exclusive, highly limited edition book on how he beats roulette and selling it for like $500 a copy.Quote: darkoz
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about.
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Or more. I'm starting to realize that $500 is way too cheap. How much is a gold mine worth.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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The book has been finished for a few years. Probably could use a final revision.
I haven't sought publication because I am still on my AP exploits.
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about. Film is art and art is about passion. I never said working on my film was a guaranteed success story. As he pointed out Disney and every other studio has flops. Gee with EB's logic, all studios should just stop making product.
As for my film, if I succeed in making it to the finish line (I'm in a bit of a race with UNSEEN opponents) then it will be history making. Which is what I am counting on to propel my film into the limelight.
I also have contacts with people pretty high up the food chain in Hollywood. I'm having dinner with one of them in two weeks. No guarantees in that direction of course but his last film was a $100 million production. I have a foot in the door. Whether the door opens or not is something for the future to hold.
What does EB care anyway. Sounds like jealousy that he doesn't do anything passionate with his life. People scared to take a gamble on a gambling site. What a twist of fate.
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Lol! You sound exactly like everybody I've ever come across in the movie business on the producing side. They spew endless word salads about what they're trying to achieve and when they achieve absolutely nothing, which 99% of them do, they have endless platitudes and word salad silliness to explain why they failed. That's because if they didn't they would never get anybody to invest again in one of their so-called 'art' pieces. Because that's all producing a movie is really about, talking somebody else into giving you their money so you don't have to invest any of your own.
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It is however interesting how the entire process works, and how many different studios and executive producers are involved on a given film these days, versus just say MetroGoldwynMeyer doing everything in the old old days.
Quote: MDawgQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfHow's your book going?Quote: EvenBobIt's right up there with people claiming that they're working on a novel. That will also never go anywhere.
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The book has been finished for a few years. Probably could use a final revision.
I haven't sought publication because I am still on my AP exploits.
As for EB, I have no clue what he is babbling about. Film is art and art is about passion. I never said working on my film was a guaranteed success story. As he pointed out Disney and every other studio has flops. Gee with EB's logic, all studios should just stop making product.
As for my film, if I succeed in making it to the finish line (I'm in a bit of a race with UNSEEN opponents) then it will be history making. Which is what I am counting on to propel my film into the limelight.
I also have contacts with people pretty high up the food chain in Hollywood. I'm having dinner with one of them in two weeks. No guarantees in that direction of course but his last film was a $100 million production. I have a foot in the door. Whether the door opens or not is something for the future to hold.
What does EB care anyway. Sounds like jealousy that he doesn't do anything passionate with his life. People scared to take a gamble on a gambling site. What a twist of fate.
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Lol! You sound exactly like everybody I've ever come across in the movie business on the producing side. They spew endless word salads about what they're trying to achieve and when they achieve absolutely nothing, which 99% of them do, they have endless platitudes and word salad silliness to explain why they failed. That's because if they didn't they would never get anybody to invest again in one of their so-called 'art' pieces. Because that's all producing a movie is really about, talking somebody else into giving you their money so you don't have to invest any of your own.
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It is however interesting how the entire process works, and how many different studios and executive producers are involved on a given film these days, versus just say MetroGoldwynMeyer doing everything in the old old days.
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All those production company names we see now at the beginning of a lot of movies and sometimes there's 8 or 10 of them, those are the suckers they talked into investing their money into producing the movie. I know a couple people locally here in Michigan who came into some money and got talked into investing it in a Hollywood movie and they lost their shirts. There's always a sucker out there who thinks he wants to be a movie producer and is willing to invest money in it and there's always somebody on the other end who talks a good game that's willing to take it from them. The fact is less than 20% of the movies produced make a profit. Of course nobody tells you this if you're a rookie and have money to invest.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
Behind the scenes Hollywood does intrigue people.
Quote: MDawgI’ve been an executive producer before. A nationwide cable television series. I didn’t make any money off it but it looked good on my resume and might have gotten me into a top tier law school or at least that is the only thing the Dean mentioned on my admission letter that was looking forward to talking to me about it.
Behind the scenes Hollywood does intrigue people.
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Congratulations. I mean that sincerely.
Even without a profit you had some satisfaction I assume? Yes money would have sweetened the deal but you don't regret the experience correct?
Quote: darkozAs an artist I am not making a movie for any guarantee of profit. True artists rarely do.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
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I'm laughing and laughing as I'm reading this post. You act like you're new here and nobody knows who you are. Sorry but we know exactly what and who you are.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAs an artist I am not making a movie for any guarantee of profit. True artists rarely do.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
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I'm laughing and laughing as I'm reading this post. You act like you're new here and nobody knows who you are. Sorry but we know exactly what and who you are.
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And what is that?
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAs an artist I am not making a movie for any guarantee of profit. True artists rarely do.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
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I'm laughing and laughing as I'm reading this post. You act like you're new here and nobody knows who you are. Sorry but we know exactly what and who you are.
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And what is that?
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Yeah right. And I could be as rich as Elon and I still wouldn't make a movie it's something I have absolutely no desire to be involved with.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAs an artist I am not making a movie for any guarantee of profit. True artists rarely do.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
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I'm laughing and laughing as I'm reading this post. You act like you're new here and nobody knows who you are. Sorry but we know exactly what and who you are.
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And what is that?
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Yeah right. And I could be as rich as Elon and I still wouldn't make a movie it's something I have absolutely no desire to be involved with.
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Everyone knows that part
But you said everyone knows who and what I am.
Please define what and who I am. What were you referring to?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAs an artist I am not making a movie for any guarantee of profit. True artists rarely do.
Thanks to my AP activities I have the ability to make my film, my vision without any money men complicating my work.
It doesn't surprise me that unartistic people would have difficulty understanding that.
Starving artists is a term for a reason. Artists compelled to do their artwork regardless.
Only I am not starving lol.
I am sure EB wishes he made enough to make a movie and not just light the candles in his house.
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I'm laughing and laughing as I'm reading this post. You act like you're new here and nobody knows who you are. Sorry but we know exactly what and who you are.
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And what is that?
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Yeah right. And I could be as rich as Elon and I still wouldn't make a movie it's something I have absolutely no desire to be involved with.
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I am with you on that one. I would guess that many people on this site have watched more movies this year than I have watched in 59 years.
For some reason, the tv sets I've been on were much more efficient. They work on smaller budgets, and it shows. Northern Queens is the setting for numerous films and tv shows, and the former Grumman properties on Long Island are now studios where blockbusters like The Avengers are shot.
Quote: billryanIn the early 1980s, my friend's warehouse was rented out to shoot a scene in a Jackie Gleason/Art Carney movie. It was in the meat-packing district, and quite a few people showed up to watch. It was the most boring thing ever. Hours-long breaks to shoot thirty seconds and then two hours to reshoot it twice. It took over eight hours to film a scene that wasn't a minute long.
For some reason, the tv sets I've been on were much more efficient. They work on smaller budgets, and it shows. Northern Queens is the setting for numerous films and tv shows, and the former Grumman properties on Long Island are now studios where blockbusters like The Avengers are shot.
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That's very true. There's a lot of downtime as different departments get set up. People in the business are aware of this. In general 3 minutes of finished film should be shot per day or about 3 pages of the screenplay. However the rule isn't set in stone. The old joke about only having to shoot one line of script -- the Indians attack the fort - which everyone shows up to and discovers it's a two week shoot for that single line.
The 9 year old from Night of the Living Dead was asked all her life if she was traumatized by the experience. She would reply (paraphrasing) "well, let's see, I waited for an hour while a nice girl applied make up to my face, then my mom handed me a spade and the director told me what to do, then he yelled action and some guy off camera squirted Karol syrup for blood on my face. And when it was finished the director told me to sit and wait fifteen minutes while they cleaned me up to do it again. At the end of the day my mom brought me a doll. Yeah what a terrifying experience "
Bowie didn't want to hang around the set for five months just to watch his stunt double fill in for him repeatedly, while he waited for his actual filmed brief appearances.
Quote: billryanI forgot the best part. When they rented out the warehouse, my friend's father insisted he could put some security people in to protect his stuff. The movie people agreed, so we got paid handsomely to watch the set and eat the buffet they put out for the crew.
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Good for you.
Today that probably wouldn't happen unfortunately. I was on a set 20 years ago and no one unauthorized could come on set due to insurance reasons. Nothing happened when you were on set but if a camera or a light had fallen on you or you tripped on an electrical cable today the insurance would say no coverage due to unauthorized personnel.
EDIT: maybe that wouldn't be the case since you say they paid you effectively making you a part of the crew. It would probably depend on the films insurance deal.
Of course I am talking more about studio (post production) work, but still.
It's harder to get on set these days, but years ago I had friends working on the lots doing post production work and I would visit them just to hang out (not to work or get hired), and although yes they would put my name with the guard at the gate, I'd show up in some very expensive vehicle and would just be waved in without any checking. Maybe I looked like someone, who knows.
At my last tournament people did keep asking if I was someone. "Excuse me, but are you a famous actor?" This was poker, and celebrities do play poker so it made sense I suppose.
I actually get that a lot. "Excuse me but, you look like, and you probably are actually, that guy from...."
Who knows, maybe I visited the same studios where D.Oz was working while he was there.
Quote: MDawgOne of the ways to get a job in the movie business, including even some higher end jobs, is to just somehow be connected to someone already working, hang around and do whatever you are good at for free, until you get hired. I know of high end positions that have been filled like that with people who worked for nothing for months until they got in.
Of course I am talking more about studio (post production) work, but still.
It's harder to get on set these days, but years ago I had friends working on the lots doing post production work and I would visit them just to hang out (not to work or get hired), and although yes they would put my name with the guard at the gate, I'd show up in some very expensive vehicle and would just be waved in without any checking. Maybe I looked like someone, who knows.
At my last tournament people did keep asking if I was someone. "Excuse me, but are you a famous actor?" This was poker, and celebrities do play poker so it made sense I suppose.
I actually get that a lot. "Excuse me but, you look like, and you probably are actually, that guy from...."
Who knows, maybe I visited the same studios where D.Oz was working while he was there.
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As a negative cutter I was stationed inside the labs. I had offices at Technicolor and CFI in LA and at DuArt in NY.
Film is usually rushed to the lab, developed and stored for safe keeping. Having offices inside the labs meant the film didn't need to leave the building for me to work on it. It wasn't a monopoly. The labs would have as many top negative cutters as possible renting inside their facility. Gave the film makers choices who to use.
The producers of Oceans 12 wanted me on premises because director Steven Soderbergh was hands on. He was the only top director who actually conversed with me directly. Most of the time it was the Post Production Supervisor who was my only link. On the big films not even the editor. I would deal with Assistant editors.
Anyway on Oceans 12 I had about 4.months of enjoying an office inside Warner Brothers. Badge and all. Lots of fun.

It's better to kick him.
Quote: billryanNever hit a man when he is down,
It's better to kick him.
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The only time MDawg mentions Cytodyn I am certain is when he himself is severely down.

Quote: darkozQuote: billryanNever hit a man when he is down,
It's better to kick him.
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The only time MDawg mentions Cytodyn I am certain is when he himself is severely down.
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I think of it everytime I wash my car.
They cut it all down in film editing to me saying 3 lines in one scene and brief appearances in two scenes, essentially as an extra with no lines.
The film has made virtually no money. It's awful - close to being unwatchable. I mean, I'm embarrassed to have been in it. The guy who produced, wrote and directed the film has almost gone bankrupt and had to take a job at a waffle house as a cook. Now he's operating a food truck.
So basically it could be named: "Cytodyn - The Movie."Quote: gordonm888I was in a feature film recently released - did the shooting in Atlanta in 2022 and 2023. It is available on Amazon and for free on You Tube. I was in scenes in four days of film shooting - 5 scenes with about 18 lines.
They cut it all down in film editing to me saying 3 lines in one scene and brief appearances in two scenes, essentially as an extra with no lines.
The film has made virtually no money. It's awful - close to being unwatchable. I mean, I'm embarrassed to have been in it. The guy who produced, wrote and directed the film has almost gone bankrupt and had to take a job at a waffle house as a cook. Now he's operating a food truck.
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It gave him incredible satisfaction that his kids and grandkids could see him on tv. He was so jealous that they used the exterior of my building for many shows.
Quote: billryanDid you enjoy it? I had a friend in NY who would spend hours waiting around the Chelsea Piers, hoping to be selected as a walk-on.
It gave him incredible satisfaction that his kids and grandkids could see him on tv. He was so jealous that they used the exterior of my building for many shows.
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Well, I was overly excited about the opportunity to have a speaking part in a film - it didn't quite live up to my expectations. But overall, yes, I had fun and new experiences. I would do it again, but would ask more questions before-hand.
I do a lot of acting in local stage theater - 4 theater productions in the past 9 months, - a total of 44 shows. And a total of about 24 weeks of rehearsals. Doesn't have the glamor of film - and the actors aren't as physically attractive. But its a great way to make new friends and stay active
Quote: gordonm888I was in a feature film recently released - did the shooting in Atlanta in 2022 and 2023. It is available on Amazon and for free on You Tube. I was in scenes in four days of film shooting - 5 scenes with about 18 lines.
They cut it all down in film editing to me saying 3 lines in one scene and brief appearances in two scenes, essentially as an extra with no lines.
The film has made virtually no money. It's awful - close to being unwatchable. I mean, I'm embarrassed to have been in it. The guy who produced, wrote and directed the film has almost gone bankrupt and had to take a job at a waffle house as a cook. Now he's operating a food truck.
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It's very very difficult to make a movie that shows a profit. The vast majority of them never make any money at all and quite often the producers go broke. The movie business is mostly a scam where you try to find somebody who has money to back your movie so you can stay employed for another year. You yourself know the movies not going to make any money but you don't care you just want to remain employed in the business. I know a couple people who got sucked into this and they lost their shirts. I used to see it when I lived in Santa Barbara. I said here the other day I was an extra in a big Hollywood production with well-known movie stars like Jeff Bridges and it was awful, it made no money at all.
Is this classic you were in available where we can see it and can try and guess who you are.