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AxelWolf
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January 11th, 2021 at 9:55:18 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why, exactly?

There are so many reasons why someone may not change their own oil yet they may be what we as a society consider a manly man in all other areas.

Someone may have lived in a high rise building in a big city their entire life, where do you want them to change their oil and properly dispose of it? It may even be illegal or against the HOA rules to do it in certain areas.

You might own a car that is much more difficult to properly change the oil than the average car.
jacking up a car could be dangerous.

Someone might be physically incapable of doing it themselves.

Someone may be spending their time doing much more important things, perhaps things that can change the world or save lives.

If you consider the time and effort it takes to do it yourself, it may not be worth learning or doing it yourself.
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CrystalMath
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January 11th, 2021 at 10:04:09 AM permalink
I still change my own oil, for the most part. That's mainly to teach the kids the value of a little work. I've also helped my kids fix their cars with parts from junk yards.

It seems I spend as much on oil and a filter as I would just going somewhere, but I get a better oil and better filter.
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billryan
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January 11th, 2021 at 10:20:57 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

You can get the filter out by jamming a screwdriver through it



Sadly, this was pre-youtube. These days I know where to look for hacks like that.
I'm currently in small claims court against jiffylube. They forgot to take the old oil out before putting in the new stuff and my car started burping badly before the engine cut off completely. It cost me just over $200 to get the car towed and whatever else the shop had to do to fix it. jiffy lube offered me one oil change a year for three years without admitting their guys did anything wrong.
AZDuffman
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January 11th, 2021 at 10:39:55 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

There are so many reasons why someone may not change their own oil yet they may be what we as a society consider a manly man in all other areas.

Someone may have lived in a high rise building in a big city their entire life, where do you want them to change their oil and properly dispose of it? It may even be illegal or against the HOA rules to do it in certain areas.

You might own a car that is much more difficult to properly change the oil than the average car.
jacking up a car could be dangerous.

Someone might be physically incapable of doing it themselves.

Someone may be spending their time doing much more important things, perhaps things that can change the world or save lives.

If you consider the time and effort it takes to do it yourself, it may not be worth learning or doing it yourself.



You are clearly missing the point.

Here is an example not with oil but with brakes. I managed a fleet of vehicles and were were using a local tire shop that did service. I forget the exact words but he gave me some BS on what the brakes needed. I then replied in a way that showed I knew how to do my own brakes and in a tone that said if he wants to pull that with a clueless 20 year old stripper go ahead but you do not pull it with me. his whole attitude changed right away. But I still took my business across the street.

If you never learn this stuff you will get taken advantage of. You learn it by doing. At the least a well rounded man needs to have done his own brakes and oil change. Also because when you learn to do this kind of thing you learn how to figure out other mechanical things.

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ChumpChange
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January 11th, 2021 at 11:00:02 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Sadly, this was pre-youtube. These days I know where to look for hacks like that.
I'm currently in small claims court against jiffylube. They forgot to take the old oil out before putting in the new stuff and my car started burping badly before the engine cut off completely. It cost me just over $200 to get the car towed and whatever else the shop had to do to fix it. jiffy lube offered me one oil change a year for three years without admitting their guys did anything wrong.



I had two different cars start stalling out at red lights (and RR crossings) after filling up with BJ's gas. Just because I can fill up there doesn't mean I should now. Maybe their 87 octane gas is 0.1 octane less than the place I use now, idk.
gamerfreak
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January 11th, 2021 at 11:10:05 AM permalink
I really like my mechanic. Been taking my car to him for years. I have the opposite problem of getting ripped off, where he tries to save me too much money.

My rotors where getting old, and causing the steering wheel to shake when braking.

He looked at it and took it for a test drive, and told me it was just old rotors, but if I didnít feel like spending the money itís not dangerous to drive, just a little annoying. And also that he would give me a discount if he did it during my next yearly inspection. He didnít charge me anything for the diagnosis.

The way he was talking it sounded like a $2000 job or something, so I drove with it for a few more months and looked into fixing it myself. I finally had him fix it, the bill was only like $250.
SOOPOO
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January 11th, 2021 at 11:27:03 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

You are clearly missing the point.

Here is an example not with oil but with brakes. I managed a fleet of vehicles and were were using a local tire shop that did service. I forget the exact words but he gave me some BS on what the brakes needed. I then replied in a way that showed I knew how to do my own brakes and in a tone that said if he wants to pull that with a clueless 20 year old stripper go ahead but you do not pull it with me. his whole attitude changed right away. But I still took my business across the street.

If you never learn this stuff you will get taken advantage of. You learn it by doing. At the least a well rounded man needs to have done his own brakes and oil change. Also because when you learn to do this kind of thing you learn how to figure out other mechanical things.

Renaissance man.



I can pretty much GUARANTEE you I have been taken advantage of by car service people. I remember one time when he was presenting me the bill he specifically emphasized the "Doctor" before he said my name! I tried going incognito in ripped T shirt and shorts....

But it will NEVER be worth it to me to do such a task myself. My friends make fun of me because I don't mow my own lawn or do any of the yardwork myself, and I have a pretty small plot. If the weather is nice enough to be outside to do those things I want to be on a golf course! And when i was working, if I put in a few hours of OT that paid for multiple cuts.

My kids were taught about hard work a different way. Working a summer at Walmart teaches you..... that you don't want to end up having to work at Walmart!

My favorite story of this type.... an anesthesiologist who was my partner.... so made exact same income I did.... had cuts and scrapes all over his hands which looked quite painful.... he spent 8 hours doing yardwork, the most disastrous was the leaf raking.... He could have hired a kid for what he made in 1 hour. If he is a 'man' then I don't want to be a 'man'!
FatGeezus
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January 11th, 2021 at 12:05:35 PM permalink
Fast lube service stores aren't perfect.

I took a 1500 mile trip to visit a friend. When I arrived to my destination, it was time for an oil change.

I took the car to a local fast lube store. No problem until I got my next oil change. The mechanic asked who did the last oil change. I told him that I had the oil changed when I visited my friend.

It seems that the fast lube store stripped the threaded oil plug. They had used an oil plug to replace the threaded plug. Every time I had an oil change I had to get a new oil plug.

The moral of the story is to if you plan on going on a long trip, change the oil before you go.
DRich
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January 11th, 2021 at 12:21:44 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO



But it will NEVER be worth it to me to do such a task myself. My friends make fun of me because I don't mow my own lawn or do any of the yardwork myself, and I have a pretty small plot. If the weather is nice enough to be outside to do those things I want to be on a golf course! And when i was working, if I put in a few hours of OT that paid for multiple cuts.



I am exactly the same way. If I can afford it I will pay it. My time off is far more important to me than to waste it on domestic chores.
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billryan
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January 11th, 2021 at 12:32:15 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I can pretty much GUARANTEE you I have been taken advantage of by car service people. I remember one time when he was presenting me the bill he specifically emphasized the "Doctor" before he said my name! I tried going incognito in ripped T shirt and shorts....

But it will NEVER be worth it to me to do such a task myself. My friends make fun of me because I don't mow my own lawn or do any of the yardwork myself, and I have a pretty small plot. If the weather is nice enough to be outside to do those things I want to be on a golf course! And when i was working, if I put in a few hours of OT that paid for multiple cuts.

My kids were taught about hard work a different way. Working a summer at Walmart teaches you..... that you don't want to end up having to work at Walmart!

My favorite story of this type.... an anesthesiologist who was my partner.... so made exact same income I did.... had cuts and scrapes all over his hands which looked quite painful.... he spent 8 hours doing yardwork, the most disastrous was the leaf raking.... He could have hired a kid for what he made in 1 hour. If he is a 'man' then I don't want to be a 'man'!



Remember when Bobby Ojeda missed a start in the playoffs after severely cutting his hand trimming bushes on his property on a day off? He missed the rest of the season and the playoffs which ended in the Dodgers beating the Mets?

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