Joeman
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September 16th, 2020 at 1:45:17 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

The "official" capacity is 65,000, and I expect it to be sold out at least once every eight years - say what you want about the Cowboys, but they bring in the crowd. In Oakland's weaker days, I think it had three sellouts - the Cowboys, the 49ers, and the game where it was rumored (correctly) that it would be Jerry Rice's last home game as a Raider.
I also expect quite a few games against the Rams or Chargers, and maybe the Cardinals as well, to sell out, as the visiting team's fans can drive to the stadium.

I think you can add the Packers and Steelers to your list. Probably the Chiefs as well.

Also, for all fans that think about going to one of their team's away games, I bet the Raiders are now at the top of the list for most! I'm already planning my trip to see the Jaguars visit the Raiders in 2025! ;)

I'm curious if LV will have their own version of the "Black Hole," or will their move to the desert usher in a kinder, gentler fan base!
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AZDuffman
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September 16th, 2020 at 1:50:42 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman



Also, for all fans that think about going to one of their team's away games, I bet the Raiders are now at the top of the list for most! I'm already planning my trip to see the Jaguars visit the Raiders in 2025! ;)



Probably now that the fan base is not just the entire population of parolees in the state.
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ddloml
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September 16th, 2020 at 2:12:00 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I think you can add the Packers and Steelers to your list. Probably the Chiefs as well.

Also, for all fans that think about going to one of their team's away games, I bet the Raiders are now at the top of the list for most! I'm already planning my trip to see the Jaguars visit the Raiders in 2025! ;)



About 5 years ago I went to a Packers/Cardinals game in Phoenix. By looking at the the jerseys worn, the crowd was over 60% Packers fans. I would imagine the same effect should the Packers ever play in LV. One reason why the Packers never play in London is that the stadium in which they do play (either home or away) would be giving up a large amount of revenue.
AZDuffman
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September 16th, 2020 at 3:47:26 PM permalink
Quote: ddloml

Quote: Joeman

I think you can add the Packers and Steelers to your list. Probably the Chiefs as well.

Also, for all fans that think about going to one of their team's away games, I bet the Raiders are now at the top of the list for most! I'm already planning my trip to see the Jaguars visit the Raiders in 2025! ;)



About 5 years ago I went to a Packers/Cardinals game in Phoenix. By looking at the the jerseys worn, the crowd was over 60% Packers fans. I would imagine the same effect should the Packers ever play in LV. One reason why the Packers never play in London is that the stadium in which they do play (either home or away) would be giving up a large amount of revenue.



I lived in Phoenix the last 2 years of Sun Devil and 1st of the new stadium. It was worse then. A local DJ said all the Cardinals were was a foil for transplants and snowbirds to watch their team play. Like watching the Globetrotters come to your town every week.

Not as bad now, but they will never be a team with real local support. I agree and suspect the Raiders will end up the same way.
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racquet
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September 16th, 2020 at 5:10:30 PM permalink
The general reaction here seems to be that in-person attendance will return to normal. But what if this extended empty-stadium format continues, let's say at least until the playoffs. The at-home experience is the same. I keep forgetting that the crowd noise is manufactured. The announcers bring the same level of expertise and excitement to the broadcast. Watching at home, I don't think there is any difference.

The only NFL game I ever attended in person was the first Monday night game in New England, at the old stadium in Foxboro, so I have nothing to base my opinion on other than I have driven Uber to the new Gillette. You won't ever see me at a game in person. Too much hassle. Too much inconvenience. But I admit my perspective is not average, or based on realism. Nevertheless...

Assume that some bizarre form of social distancing will always be in effect. Even when the threat of COVID-19 goes away, our nannies will never relent and let us go back to what we experienced before. Let's not get all distracted by the politics of the virus for a minute = assume that tailgating, carousing in large unruly groups and not wearing masks everywhere stays as the status quo. Will the crowds return if all these restrictions remain?

If you used to be a regular in-person attendee at a professional baseball, basketball or football game, would you go to a game next weekend if you had to sit with a couple of empty seats all around you, nowheres near any other fan or even any member of your family or friends? No tailgating? Limited food and beverage service? If your 65,000 seat capacity stadium was restricted to even 50 percent? Do you think our minders would allow what used to be the normal rowdiness of a sporting crowd?

I'm saying that a lot of the folks who used to go to all the bother of getting there in person will figure out that having a bunch of their friends over to their living room, or their driveway for a barbecue, or into their back yards where the Mask Police will leave them be, will be a better experience than traipsing out to the stadium.

Being forced to change your normal routine gives you an opportunity to see what a different routine is like. I think people will figure out that watching from home is not that bad a deal.
smoothgrh
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September 16th, 2020 at 6:36:42 PM permalink
A few years ago, it was reported that NFL attendance dropped 1%. Doesn’t seem like much, but it showed that not everyone was clamoring to pay high prices, suffer inconvenience, and not be shown instant replay on close calls.

The advent of cheap HDTVs, better camera angles (thanks, XFL!), and insta-stats makes the home viewing experience for football so much better in so many ways.

I loved going to football games in college, but I’d prefer to get stuff done around the house during the 169 minutes of a game when the ball is not in play.
billryan
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September 16th, 2020 at 8:42:30 PM permalink
For many people, it's a lifestyle. In NY, football is a family thing. There is very little turnover of tickets so you get friendly with the people around you. My Uncles would drag me to games when I was eight or so, but by the time I was 13 I looked forward to going to a few games a year. We'd leave by 8AM for a 1PM game and tailgate and play football in the parking lot. 4PM games were even more fun and Monday nights were great because all the old folks gave their tickets to people who didn't have to work the next day. One year, I did six games, and as I got older and could afford it, we'd do one road game many years. Sometimes just an Eagles or Baltimore game, but one year we went to Minnesota, and another to St Louis .
After the OT win in Green Bay in that NFC Championship game, I swore I'd never go to another cold-weather game. I literally froze my nuts off. I was wearing multiple sets of long johns and two pairs of sweatpants. Lets say urinating was a bit difficult and even warm liquids quickly froze up.
While I haven't discussed it with my cousins and nephews who now control the tickets, I doubt any will give up going to " church" when they reopen.
charliepatrick
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September 17th, 2020 at 3:49:31 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

...Wierd digression- One of the sets was a fraction of a second slower than the other...

I suspect it's the processing time to decode the pictures. I don't know for sure but they use algorithms to reduce the bandwidth and I think they also sometimes use the difference between the previous frame logic. I was also watching the "Monday Night" match as it was on UK terrestrial TV. Being early in the morning here I had the TV on mute and the laptop for headphones, about a second difference deciphering the same signal.
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September 17th, 2020 at 8:02:27 AM permalink
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September 17th, 2020 at 10:46:45 AM permalink
I don't care for seeing an NFL game in a stadium. You spend too much time watching everyone stand around waiting for the latest TV commercial break to end. Do these guys ever get a chance to be tired?

I did attend a pro golf tourney once. That was fun. Plus the players (and the follower fans) had to travel a few hundred yards between shots without stopping.
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