lilredrooster
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May 25th, 2020 at 6:34:53 AM permalink
Hana Kimura - just 22

the cause believed to be cyberbullying related to some reality tv show she was doing
shows the pain of it - this incident is extreme - I would guess many go into a deep depression when bullied and its not reported anywhere

before she died she posted somewhere:

"goodbye - I'm sorry"

so very sad




https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/24/world/asia/hana-kimura-aew-dead.html
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Zcore13
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May 25th, 2020 at 9:01:27 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster



the cause believed to be cyberbullying related to some reality tv show she was doing



Lol. The cause of her death was not cyberbullying. She was an adult. She chose to kill herself and it most likely had to do with a mental health issue or drugs.


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lilredrooster
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May 25th, 2020 at 9:48:42 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster



the cause believed to be cyberbullying related to some reality tv show she was doing




Quote: Zcore13

The cause of her death was not cyberbullying. She was an adult. She chose to kill herself and it most likely had to do with a mental health issue or drugs.




I wrote "believed to be" which means I didn't know for sure
this came from these sources:


The New York Times
The Washington Post

this is a direct quote from JapanTimes.co

"Based on evidence she had been victimized by cyberbullying, police have yet to determine the cause of her death on Saturday."

other sources saying basically the same thing inlcude:

deadspin.com..........and
Forbes.com............................................and several others


I was re-stating what had been stated by all of these news sources

you however, know this to be false

you say:

"the cause of her death was not cyberbullying"

I wonder where you get all your vast knowledge of this incident from

you state "it most likely came from mental health issues"

brilliant - it could be pretty much be assumed that anybody who commits suicide has mental health issues

that does not mean that an outside source cannot be a contributing factor to these issues


from the Washington Post:


"Several now deleted Twitter messages also showed images of slashed wrists, referring to hate messages on social media and saying she didn’t want to “be a human” anymore."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hana-kimura-pro-wrestler-and-star-of-netflixs-terrace-house-dies-at-22/2020/05/23/5690a85c-9cd6-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html




another arrogant post from Zcore13


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Zcore13
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May 25th, 2020 at 10:02:33 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

I wrote "believed to be" which means I didn't know for sure
this came from these sources:

The New York Times
The Washington Post

this is a direct quote from JapanTimes.co

"Based on evidence she had been victimized by cyberbullying, police have yet to determine the cause of her death on Saturday."

other sources saying basically the same thing inlcude:

deadspin.com..........and
Forbes.com............................................and several others


I was re-stating what had been stated by all of these news sources

you however, know this to be false

you say:

"the cause of her death was not cyberbullying"

I wonder where you get all your vast knowledge of this incident from

you state "it most likely came from mental health issues"

brilliant - it could be pretty much be assumed that anybody who commits suicide has mental health issues

that does not mean that an outside source cannot be a contributing factor to these issues


from the Washington Post:


"Several now deleted Twitter messages also showed images of slashed wrists, referring to hate messages on social media and saying she didn’t want to “be a human” anymore."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hana-kimura-pro-wrestler-and-star-of-netflixs-terrace-house-dies-at-22/2020/05/23/5690a85c-9cd6-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html




another arrogant post from Zcore13


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There is no such thing as "Cause of death - Cyberbullying. Surprise, surprise, I have intelligence and can think for myself, not just read rag articles and follow like a sheep.


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lilredrooster
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May 25th, 2020 at 10:08:18 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

There is no such thing as "Cause of death - Cyberbullying. Surprise, surprise, I have intelligence and can think for myself, not just read rag articles and follow like a sheep.

ZCore13




right - I got you
you don't need to read anything
you 𝐤𝐧𝐨𝐰 what happened without reading anything
because of your 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞
intelligent people don't read things

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Zcore13
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May 25th, 2020 at 10:22:10 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

right - I got you
you don't need to read anything
you 𝐤𝐧𝐨𝐰 what happened without reading anything
because of your 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞



So you think there's an actual cause of death called "Cyberbullying "?




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lilredrooster
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May 25th, 2020 at 10:26:56 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13



So you think there's an actual cause of death called "Cyberbullying "?

ZCore13




alright.....................you got me

I should have written "believed to have been related to"

I admit my choice of words was not great..................................I mean I'm not writing for a newspaper - this is just a gambling forum..................I don't have an editor to assist me
I'm not all that careful about my choice of words every time
I think it was pretty obvious what I meant even if my choice of words was not the best

so.....................I admit my error.......................a small one

how about you?

you ever admit your errors?





I don't see the New York Times and the Washington Post as being rags
they may be biased sometimes but so what - every newspaper is biased

you do see them as rags - good for you - whatever
Last edited by: lilredrooster on May 25, 2020
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May 25th, 2020 at 12:45:56 PM permalink
As an old school wrestling fan, I will say that wrestlers dying young is nothing new. Heck, several youtube channels are making money of producing documentaries off of it. Vice TV in Canada produces a TV series called Dark Side of the Ring and interviews the subjects ranging from the Chris Benoit Double Murder Suicide to Jimmy Snuka murdering his GF and just recently the Owen Hart tragedy in Kansas City.

While I agree, it is a tragedy that such a young promising female wrestler took her own life after being ridiculed online for an incident on a Japanese Reality show, this is not the worst thing to happen in wrestling. Hell, it's not even the worst thing to happen this month! Just a week earlier, a former WWE wrestler Shad Gaspard drowned in Venice Beach after he and his son were caught in a riptide and the lifeguards were only able to save one of them. Shad instructed them to "save my son" and gave his life as any loving father would.

The girl, Hana, was young and impressionable & put too much stock into what online fans thought. There was no indication that she was mentally or emotionally disturbed, but the actions speak for themselves and the damage is done. It doesn't absolve the perpetrators of feeding her insecurities, but it certainly shouldn't put them on trial for her death. This is NOT an episode of Law & Order: SVU or a wrestling story line, this is real life and real life is often cruel.
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May 25th, 2020 at 1:02:29 PM permalink
Lilred, Zcore. This is a perfect example of semantics getting in the way of a conversation. Of course the 'cause of death' is not cyberbullying. Zcore, you know Lilred does not believe she read a cyber attack and just dropped dead.

Had it read "Wrestler takes her life due to inability to cope with cyberbullies" would that appease both of you?

I generally do not think most of the Japanese female wrestlers are very attractive. This one was hot!
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May 25th, 2020 at 1:09:21 PM permalink
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