FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 262
  • Posts: 13933
Thanks for this post from:
RogerKint
December 7th, 2016 at 5:15:40 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

75 years ago today, the Japanese attacked the American fleet at Pearl Harbor. Never forget.


You should be more historically correct, Mr. V.
First of all, it was a court-martial offense to say "Japanese". The word was "Jap" and heaven help the sailor who forgot that. The verb was "Japped".

December 7th was the end of a long struggle. Warner Brothers and their Celluoid Soldiers could finally stop their campaign to get America into a war frenzy. Senator Nye and the America First movement could no longer keep America out of foreign entanglements. The Nye Committee would no longer hold hearings on Warner Brothers and the movie industry. No one would dare speak of FDR's desire to have a significant event bring us to war rather than some modest far off 'gunboat incident'. The Jewish Harvard Advisers had succeeded in rushing into effect the ban on sales of scrap metal to Japan even though Japan had formally made it known that interfering with their coprosperity sphere in Manchuria would lead to war. FDR had relieved of command the Admiral who protested sending the fleet to an unprotected hardship berth of Pearl Harbor instead of San Diego. FDR had kept the eldest Admiral in place in Hawaii and had kept Hawaii out of the loop as far as radio intercepts or the 'bomb plot' grid like structure across the port. FDR has the Coast Guard escorting UK bound convoys hundreds of miles out to sea but was aggressively enforcing the Neutrality Act as it related to Germany. All those far flung commercial attaches were sending in reports on ship movements and it was obvious the Jap merchant ships would be within the home waters by Dec 8th. FDR wanted America in the war to fight on the side of England..... and he got it.
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 262
  • Posts: 13933
December 7th, 2016 at 5:28:25 PM permalink
Billy Mitchell had told us the next war we fought would be a war with the empire of Japan, we ignored him.

When the US wanted a TransCanada highway to link Alaska, Japan announced it would be considered an unfriendly act.

Japan announced its fleet was scouring the seas for Amelia Erhardt but in fact their ships remained in harbor since that ultra-advanced airplane was just too tempting a target for Japan to pass up.

At least the Japs lived up to their ideals. In the CBI theater one lumbering bomber was shot down by Jap fighter planes and as befits the Japanese code, the planes followed the crew down and shot up their parachute canopies. One US Lieutenant 2g took his pistol and shot at the pilot trying to machine gun him as he descended. It seems that beyond all belief one of his four shots must have hit their mark as the Japanese pilot crashed and died without damage to his plane. The Japanese so admired the American soldier that he was the only POW formally offered a chance to commit ritual disembowlment to avoid the shame of surrender.
RogerKint
RogerKint
Joined: Dec 5, 2011
  • Threads: 15
  • Posts: 1846
December 7th, 2016 at 5:28:48 PM permalink
Expanding an empire is tough work. Expanding an empire while making people believe you're the good guy is even tougher. "Never forget what that ever-present evil boogeyman did across the sea. Keep giving us your money and we'll make sure it doesn't happen again, until the next time." How many Japanese girls are raped every year by our servicemen who are STILL stationed in Japan? I forget. Oops, look, I forgot.
100% risk of ruin
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 262
  • Posts: 13933
December 7th, 2016 at 5:37:57 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

How many Japanese girls are raped every year by our servicemen who are STILL stationed in Japan? I forget. Oops, look, I forgot.

How many American women working feverishly at Hickam Field hospital couldn't get the Rape of Nanking out of their minds?
RogerKint
RogerKint
Joined: Dec 5, 2011
  • Threads: 15
  • Posts: 1846
December 7th, 2016 at 5:42:21 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

How many American women working feverishly at Hickam Field hospital couldn't get the Rape of Nanking out of their minds?



I thought it was only Chinese? They don't count Jk
100% risk of ruin
bobbartop
bobbartop
Joined: Mar 15, 2016
  • Threads: 100
  • Posts: 2133
December 7th, 2016 at 10:30:32 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff


The Japanese so admired the American soldier that he was the only POW formally offered a chance to commit ritual disembowlment to avoid the shame of surrender.




Holy smoke, that made me cringe. Brutal.
"...The Queen of Warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long..."
MrV
MrV
Joined: Feb 13, 2010
  • Threads: 310
  • Posts: 6775
December 7th, 2016 at 11:39:00 PM permalink
Funny how Japan and Hawaii do not allow casinos, but the mainland USA is covered with them.
Last edited by: MrV on Dec 8, 2016
"What, me worry?"
RS
RS
Joined: Feb 11, 2014
  • Threads: 62
  • Posts: 8581
December 8th, 2016 at 9:07:15 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Funny how Japan and Hawaii do not allow casinos, but the mainland USA is covered with them.



I don't get it. ??
# Свободный Натан
MrV
MrV
Joined: Feb 13, 2010
  • Threads: 310
  • Posts: 6775
December 8th, 2016 at 9:26:45 AM permalink
Hawaii is now "owned" mainly, or seemingly so, by Japanese / Japanese interests.

Japan does not allow casino gambling, and they've allowed this tenet of their culture to remain applicable in Hawaii.

Meanwhile, we on the mainland are awash in casinos.

My point: who really "won" at Pearl Harbor, if "winning" is measured by ownership, cultural and political influence?
"What, me worry?"
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 262
  • Posts: 13933
December 8th, 2016 at 9:35:09 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Holy smoke, that made me cringe. Brutal.

It was in keeping with their sense of honor.

Pursuit Planes, as they were then called, firing machine guns at helpless parachutists who had abandoned an airplane was in keeping with their sense of honor, as was fighting to the end, such as a pistol shot against a 240 mph plane. Surrender was shameful and Japan did sign some of the protocols of the Geneva (and successor) Conventions on the Conduct of Forces in the Field of War.

When a Japanese woman on a streetcar said she hated Americans during the aftermath of some bombing raid, their blonde haired fellow passenger thought by them to be German announced she was an American. Upon learning that after Pearl Harbor her diplomat husband had been repatriated and she chose to stay with him, the driver left his controls and turned around to bow to her as every woman on the street car bowed to her for having done such a Japanese Act.

The Japanese language provided for surrender (dishonor) and attack by surrender-like ploys (honorable).

  • Jump to: