Nathan
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September 6th, 2016 at 3:41:16 AM permalink
I have had someone ask more than once if I was Kentry, and I have no idea who that is! It is unnerving to be a new member and be implied that I am someone I had never even heard of!
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September 6th, 2016 at 3:55:04 AM permalink
You have the exact same writing style and same type of stories which is why people ask
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September 6th, 2016 at 5:03:25 AM permalink
Okay, that makes sense then. But I am not Kentry, so I would appreciate it if the implications stopped. :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 6th, 2016 at 5:17:11 AM permalink
No one saying you are ... Just that you sound the same and have the same false stories as far as theories of slot machines go
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September 6th, 2016 at 5:23:32 AM permalink
I'm sorry. I jumped the gun and assumed that posters were implying that I was Kentry. Once again, my bad. :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 8th, 2016 at 3:08:29 AM permalink
Welcome to the WOV Forums, Nathan. You really don't seem all that much like Kentry to me. Kentry was a guy who ran around telling TMI about how much money was in his bank account(seriously, who tells complete strangers on the internet their bank account amount?) and saying that his Mom kicked his ass for gambling away his haircut money. People were questioning his age(were wondering if he was underage as most grown adults do not get haircut money from their mothers. The fact that he was elusive about his age only drew more suspicion. Plus, there was the way he "talked" like a innocent kid which didn't help matters.He also would post that he was excited that he won $5 off a 1 cent bet! There was something incredibly naïve about him. If anything, Krava seems a thousand more times like Kentry than you do. Krava asked something like , "Can I take my player's card out of my machine when I get a bonus so that the win doesn't show up on my taxes?" That seems like something Kentry would have asked . A poster even downright called Krava Kentry Jr.

The only thing that seemed a bit naïve about you was your "Do 20 spins maximum and then stop and go to another slot if you don't get the bonus." But you would have to make like 10 posts like that before you seem like Kentry. ;)
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September 8th, 2016 at 3:10:56 AM permalink
And he surfaces again- I can't believe
No one else sees this
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September 8th, 2016 at 3:14:52 AM permalink
I am not Kentry, if that's what you are saying.
Really, dude, you tried to buy a flat screen TV for only $3.99? Get out of here, you scam, con arist!
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September 8th, 2016 at 3:14:52 AM permalink
I am not Kentry, if that's what you are saying.
Really, dude, you tried to buy a flat screen TV for only $3.99? Get out of here, you scam, con arist!
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September 8th, 2016 at 3:45:56 AM permalink
we never knew for sure if Kentry was just 'putting us on'

an administrator caught him coming back after being banned, so ....

But so far I do not suspect you are Kentry. If you get obsessed with Kentry, or go on to ask or assert similarly kid-like things, then I might change my mind.

btw you can look up his posts if you want to know what we are talking about, the maddening kid-like stuff

https://wizardofvegas.com/member/kentry/posts/
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:14:39 AM permalink
I've been reading Kentry's posts. He was harassed pretty badly just like a lot of other people have been. Dude probably killed himself.
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:16:10 AM permalink
If he did then I guess he is accessing and posting on Wov from beyond
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:36:58 AM permalink
Quote: Dean

Welcome to the WOV Forums, Nathan. You really don't seem all that much like Kentry to me. Kentry was a guy who ran around telling TMI about how much money was in his bank account(seriously, who tells complete strangers on the internet their bank account amount?) and saying that his Mom kicked his ass for gambling away his haircut money. People were questioning his age(were wondering if he was underage as most grown adults do not get haircut money from their mothers. The fact that he was elusive about his age only drew more suspicion. Plus, there was the way he "talked" like a innocent kid which didn't help matters.He also would post that he was excited that he won $5 off a 1 cent bet! There was something incredibly naïve about him. If anything, Krava seems a thousand more times like Kentry than you do. Krava asked something like , "Can I take my player's card out of my machine when I get a bonus so that the win doesn't show up on my taxes?" That seems like something Kentry would have asked . A poster even downright called Krava Kentry Jr.

The only thing that seemed a bit naïve about you was your "Do 20 spins maximum and then stop and go to another slot if you don't get the bonus." But you would have to make like 10 posts like that before you seem like Kentry. ;)



I said the "Do 20 spins maximum because someone said they kept doing constant spins with no bonus, so I said the maximum amount of spins you should do is 20 if the bonus is not coming. It's better to lose $20 than $200(I know from experience that chasing bonuses is a bad idea. I once went 600 spins before I got a bonus and the bonus was a bad bonus that only gave me roughly $3 back when I had put a whole lot more than $3 chasing the bonus. Had I done just 20 spins I would have done much better.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:44:49 AM permalink
Well that's scientific proof. And a totally arbitrary number
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:47:05 AM permalink
I said do 20 spins in order to save money in the long run. Maybe I should have said do a few spins and bail if you don't get the bonus? ;)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 8th, 2016 at 4:58:39 AM permalink
Neither will help
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:00:29 AM permalink
How would not wasting anymore money in a cold machine not help?
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:01:18 AM permalink
Oh Jesus- a cold machine?
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:04:24 AM permalink
Well, I am considering a non bonusing machine cold in this scenario ;).
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:28:55 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I said the "Do 20 spins maximum because someone said they kept doing constant spins with no bonus, so I said the maximum amount of spins you should do is 20 if the bonus is not coming. It's better to lose $20 than $200(I know from experience that chasing bonuses is a bad idea. I once went 600 spins before I got a bonus and the bonus was a bad bonus that only gave me roughly $3 back when I had put a whole lot more than $3 chasing the bonus. Had I done just 20 spins I would have done much better.

Your experience is probably little and meaningless, you're theory is ignorant at best. Selective memory added to strange things happen is clouding your thinking.

What brought you to this site? If you came because you seen value in the Wizards and others knowledge and reputations, and you could possibly learn something, then perhaps you'll read what The Wizard and others have to say about slots and other games, perhaps you'll realize what you're saying is completely opposite of what knowledgeable people actually know.

Other than playing less spins PERIOD there's little or no truth to what you're saying, your advice is misleading and 99% wrong.
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:30:33 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

How would not wasting anymore money in a cold machine not help?

You're protecting your ego by leaving. If you want to gamble and have fun, you can't have fun staying where you don't think you should be. There is nothing wrong with not playing because you no longer want to. Yet they want you to keep playing because you have no reason to play in the first place. You're probably quitting because you're afraid you'll continue until you're completely broke and might not do that the same day if your emotions were leveled.
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September 8th, 2016 at 5:39:18 AM permalink
And let's not forget that if someone leaves after 20 spins- he or she may still be able to get a haircut
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:09:12 AM permalink
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And let's not forget that if someone leaves after 20 spins- he or she may still be able to get a haircut

If they leave after 20 spins, they might be able to see you before you see them. Maybe you should apply as a moderator or private forum detective. I think you're [linkdisabled=https://wizardofvegas.com/block/wizardofnothing/]just pointing fingers.
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:10:04 AM permalink
Was just referring to Kentry- he should have taken that advice
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:11:15 AM permalink
I'll guess that your link would be great grounds for a suspension
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:16:21 AM permalink
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Guess I'll add one Nicole miracle to the ace of spades and Alan category of people who need to announce their departure or who they are blocking - I'm crushed and devastated

I'm not blocking you. I have no idea what you're talking about WizardofKentry. 😁 😁 😁
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:19:26 AM permalink
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If they leave after 20 spins, they might be able to see you before you see them. Maybe you should apply as a moderator or private forum detective. I think you're [linkdisabled =https://wizardofvegas.com/block/wizardofnothing/]just pointing fingers.






What is the link then - clearly you did
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September 8th, 2016 at 6:24:06 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Quote: onenickelmiracle

If they leave after 20 spins, they might be able to see you before you see them. Maybe you should apply as a moderator or private forum detective. I think you're [linkdisabled=https://wizardofvegas.com/block/wizardofnothing/]just pointing fingers.






What is the link then - clearly you did

Copied the link without blocking you when I pasted it. I don't have anyone blocked.
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September 8th, 2016 at 7:27:14 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

If they leave after 20 spins, they might be able to see you before you see them. Maybe you should apply as a moderator or private forum detective. I think you're [linkdisabled=https://wizardofvegas.com/block/wizardofnothing/]just pointing fingers.




Ok. This needs to stop from both sides. ONM, that was over the top, programmed to change board preferences for anyone clicking this link. I left it displayed but disabled so those who did click it can go back and fix it (a choice in your Preferences menu under "see members I have blocked" from the top bar menu, for those who have not used that function). There is nothing in the rules currently that prohibits such a link, but I move that it be added to the rules. No one's account should be manipulated in this way.

WoN, you need to stop badgering people you have suspicions about. It's tiresome for the rest of us, off-putting to the members you target, and at least borderline trolling. There are other ways to deal with sock puppets. And there are many Kentrys out there. In fact, casinos depend on it. Warning: Further crap postings of this type will result in a suspension for trolling.
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September 8th, 2016 at 7:43:58 AM permalink
That's fine - I'll back off- just feel his post was compounded by lying about it after I called him on it
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September 8th, 2016 at 7:51:42 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

aps you'll read what The Wizard and others have to say about slots and other games, perhaps you'll realize what you're saying is completely opposite of what knowledgeable people actually know.



The Wiz correctly points out how slots have a high house edge; he suggests that if you want to play slots (most casino gamblers do), then a player should do three things: always use a player's card; play higher denomination slots; and consider switching from slots to VP if machine play is your thing.

But let's look at "what knowledgeable people actually know:" the house has the edge on all of its games of chance, with fewer and farther between AP opportunities available.

Games which involve an element of skill such as sports betting and poker are a "knowledgeable" players best bet, at least if they have some skill at it: otherwise, really, why gamble at all?

Give the people what they want: bread, circuses, and slots.
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September 9th, 2016 at 6:40:42 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

The Wiz correctly points out how slots have a high house edge; he suggests that if you want to play slots (most casino gamblers do), then a player should do three things: always use a player's card; play higher denomination slots; and consider switching from slots to VP if machine play is your thing.

But let's look at "what knowledgeable people actually know:" the house has the edge on all of its games of chance, with fewer and farther between AP opportunities available.

Games which involve an element of skill such as sports betting and poker are a "knowledgeable" players best bet, at least if they have some skill at it: otherwise, really, why gamble at all?

Give the people what they want: bread, circuses, and slots.

My argument was not whether or not someone should or shouldn't play slots.

I was just arguing the 20 spin hot/cold theory.

If truth be told there's probably no difference between someone playing VP, BJ , Slots , craps etc etc (I'm not talking about advantage and value players).

WTF You talking about Axel? Slots have a horrible pay back, everyone should play 99.54 % VP and good rules BJ and whatnot. That would be true if they actually set a time limit, but most people don't.

Most people go to the casino with a set amount of money that they allow themselves to lose and once they lose that they are done. Obviously not everyone does it like that and of course many people hit up the ATM or whatever, but you get the point. They usually want to get a minimum amount of entertainment as well.

I think the only difference between playing slots and good VP/BJ or whatever is your money will last longer on good games. If we both go to a casino with $40 and you play good VP until you lose your $40. And I do the same thing on slots the only difference is you'll get to play and be in the casino much longer overall.
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September 9th, 2016 at 6:43:27 PM permalink
It becomes very bad when someone wins double handpays and is at the ATM later the same day!
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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