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Chereya
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July 11th, 2015 at 12:03:21 PM permalink
Sex for women is completely different than for men. We carry almost all of the risk in multiple contexts - pregnancy, emotional, satisfaction, disease, guilt/pressure, etc. I guarantee you that any teenage female pursuing a male of any age for a sexual relationship, or interlude, does not know what she is getting herself into.

The human race still carries a lot of cave-man era subconscious programming and 70 year olds like Tony Randall can still make babies. In the back of every woman's mind is the thought that the committed man in her life could theoretically discard her and move on for a younger, "better" version. (One exception I can think of ATM being Prince Charles.) Marriage is hard and not everyone weathers the ups and downs or just the necessary individual and family unit based challenges/changes of life.

People in positions of authority shouldn't abuse that for personal sexual gratification. But they do. Men who prey on subordinates, male or female, probably do it in a greater percentage and similarly get away with it, too, based on the amount of sex scandals that actually come to light.

Women who use their sexuality as a commodity in exchange for other influence, status, goods or whatever, are usually selling themselves short and propagate the idea that women are only valuable as a means of male sexual gratification. What happens to most trophy wives who become tarnished and dusty? They get replaced.

As for the older female teacher, she knew better. People do dumb things for dumb reasons. It was an ego boost for her.
rawtuff
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July 11th, 2015 at 5:28:36 PM permalink
Quote: Chereya

Sex for women is completely different than for men.

We carry almost all of the risk in multiple contexts - pregnancy, emotional, satisfaction, disease, guilt/pressure, etc. I guarantee you that any teenage female pursuing a male of any age for a sexual relationship, or interlude, does not know what she is getting herself into.


The human race still carries a lot of cave-man era subconscious programming and 70 year olds like Tony Randall can still make babies. In the back of every woman's mind is the thought that the committed man in her life could theoretically discard her and move on for a younger, "better" version. (One exception I can think of ATM being Prince Charles.) Marriage is hard and not everyone weathers the ups and downs or just the necessary individual and family unit based challenges/changes of life.

People in positions of authority shouldn't abuse that for personal sexual gratification. But they do. Men who prey on subordinates, male or female, probably do it in a greater percentage and similarly get away with it, too, based on the amount of sex scandals that actually come to light.

Women who use their sexuality as a commodity in exchange for other influence, status, goods or whatever, are usually selling themselves short and propagate the idea that women are only valuable as a means of male sexual gratification. What happens to most trophy wives who become tarnished and dusty? They get replaced.



Agreed. Can't talk from personal experience being a male, but there is this thing called empathy and common sense.

Quote: Chereya

As for the older female teacher, she knew better. People do dumb things for dumb reasons. It was an ego boost for her.



Whatever her drive was, I can't think of a reasoning where 22 years in prison is justified. To me this case and especially the sentence is absolutely ridiculous. And sad.
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Gandler
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July 11th, 2015 at 7:20:54 PM permalink
If an older man had sex with a 17 year old girl you would be furious. Why should the standard be different because she is a woman?

Also, the 17 year old was just one of several underage students she had sex with. It was not a one time thing, she was manipulating young boys to her pleasure.


If an adult male was having sex with multiple 14-17 year olds everyone would be losing their minds.... But since its a woman everyone wants to defend her and be like "well the boys probably enjoyed it"... Try reversing the genders and using that argument and see how people would react to you.

As others have pointed out many men get far longer for similar things, and feminists seem eager to ignore the "way society treats women" in this regard....


She was an educated adult woman, she knew what she was doing, and she got caught, she deserves her punishment.
rawtuff
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July 11th, 2015 at 8:49:47 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

If an older man had sex with a 17 year old girl you would be furious. Why should the standard be different because she is a woman?



Because it is different. And I wont be furious. 17 is adult in my country.

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Also, the 17 year old was just one of several underage students she had sex with. It was not a one time thing, she was manipulating young boys to her pleasure.



Yes, several 17 year old men. It shouldn't be a crime in the first place if the law was up to date.


Quote: Gandler

Try reversing the genders and using that argument and see how people would react to you..



And if you try to put wheels on a human will it make them a truck?

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She was an educated adult woman, she knew what she was doing, and she got caught, she deserves her punishment.



Hardly deserves 22 years in jail. Some probation maybe. Hell, maybe give her 6 months effective. 22 years? LOL
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Gandler
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July 11th, 2015 at 9:08:41 PM permalink
Quote: rawtuff

Because it is different. And I wont be furious. 17 is adult in my country.



Yes, several 17 year old men. It shouldn't be a crime in the first place if the law was up to date.




And if you try to put wheels on a human will it make them a truck?





So its Okay for women to engage in statutory rape?

Let me guess, you are a feminist....

Or was she the victim in this scenario?
rawtuff
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July 11th, 2015 at 9:14:35 PM permalink
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Because it is different. And I wont be furious. 17 is adult in my country.



Yes, several 17 year old men. It shouldn't be a crime in the first place if the law was up to date.




And if you try to put wheels on a human will it make them a truck?





So its Okay for women to engage in statutory rape?

Let me guess, you are a feminist....

Or was she the victim in this scenario?



It's not okay. Doesn't deserve 22 years though. And "rape" is kind of incorrect term here.
No I'm not feminist. Quite the contrary in fact.

She could of been the victim, wouldn't know. But even if she is a predator, 18 is too high and obsolete age limit. Check the rest of the world. And the punishment is WAY too harsh in this case.
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Gandler
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July 11th, 2015 at 9:20:23 PM permalink
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Quote: rawtuff

Because it is different. And I wont be furious. 17 is adult in my country.



Yes, several 17 year old men. It shouldn't be a crime in the first place if the law was up to date.




And if you try to put wheels on a human will it make them a truck?





So its Okay for women to engage in statutory rape?

Let me guess, you are a feminist....

Or was she the victim in this scenario?



It's not okay. Doesn't deserve 22 years though. And "rape" is kind of incorrect term here.
No I'm not feminist. Quite the contrary in fact.

She could of been the victim, wouldn't know. But even if she is a predator, 18 is too high and obsolete age limit. Check the rest of the world. And the punishment is WAY too harsh in this case.



"Statuary rape" is the term for an adult having sex with a minor regardless of the consent.
rawtuff
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July 11th, 2015 at 9:28:21 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Quote: rawtuff

Quote: Gandler

Quote: rawtuff

Because it is different. And I wont be furious. 17 is adult in my country.



Yes, several 17 year old men. It shouldn't be a crime in the first place if the law was up to date.




And if you try to put wheels on a human will it make them a truck?





So its Okay for women to engage in statutory rape?

Let me guess, you are a feminist....

Or was she the victim in this scenario?



It's not okay. Doesn't deserve 22 years though. And "rape" is kind of incorrect term here.
No I'm not feminist. Quite the contrary in fact.

She could of been the victim, wouldn't know. But even if she is a predator, 18 is too high and obsolete age limit. Check the rest of the world. And the punishment is WAY too harsh in this case.



"Statuary rape" is the term for an adult having sex with a minor regardless of the consent.



Yeah, I get it but the word "rape" gives an unnecessary negative weight IMO. Pedophilia is what is used mostly in non English language cultures.
Talking about statuary rape of 17 year old men is IMO ridiculous.
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tringlomane
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July 11th, 2015 at 9:42:51 PM permalink
22 years (via plea bargain...35 max) was the same sentence a Florida man who was drunk got when he crashed a car and my ex's sister and her girlfriend later crashed into his stationary car in their traffic lane and died when they were on a motorcycle and were ejected. It was his 4th DUI offense.

As for the person in the link, her biggest problem, which OP tends to not clearly point out is...she did this with more than one person. Also was accused of inappropriate conduct with an 8th grader, 7 years ago. If only one person was involved, then yeah, 22 years is definitely too much. As is, I say good for her for getting 3 less years than the plea bargain!

But ironically, this is the same state that couldn't convict Casey Anthony!!! Lolololololololololololol
rawtuff
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July 11th, 2015 at 10:03:32 PM permalink
Yeah, DUI and causing the death of two people and a woman having sex with three minors (mind you, 17 year old minors, not 9 or 10 or 11... 17! What is there to be so mentally damaging for them at 17?) apparently warrants the same punishment. Justice in action.
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