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rawtuff
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August 25th, 2018 at 11:37:04 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Would you be so forgiving if it was a priest having sex with a seventeen year old?
I think there is a huge difference between a teacher having sex with a student, and a customer picking up a bus boy, for example.
The state dictates we send our children to school. We expect them to be protected from sexual predictors while there.



This was discussed already, no i wouldn't have.
I think the difference is there, it's palpable and it should be accounted for in the legislative system.
Don't beat yourself up over past mistakes, you are going to f*** up again in the future, quite possibly in the most spectacular fashion, why worry about yesterday's f*** up's when you have tomorrow's f*** up's to look forward to? You are a f*** up, and f***** up is part of your growth process, embrace the process.
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August 25th, 2018 at 12:35:41 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Would you be so forgiving if it was a priest having sex with a seventeen year old?
I think there is a huge difference between a teacher having sex with a student, and a customer picking up a bus boy, for example.
The state dictates we send our children to school. We expect them to be protected from sexual predictors while there.

Now you get in trouble for using your free time to help educate your students? (-;
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August 25th, 2018 at 1:11:01 PM permalink
Quote: rawtuff

For me it should definitely be under 18 and above 14 (or even above 15).

One of the reasons the Catholic church became so powerful in Ireland is that they had control over the poor houses that took in destitute children and rented them out to wealthy landowners. The Age of Consent was NINE. As a matter of fact it remained nine for almost two hundred years when it was raised to ELEVEN.

That is what it was in America too. Eleven.
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August 25th, 2018 at 2:21:28 PM permalink
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One of the reasons the Catholic church became so powerful in Ireland is that they had control over the poor houses that took in destitute children and rented them out to wealthy landowners. The Age of Consent was NINE. As a matter of fact it remained nine for almost two hundred years when it was raised to ELEVEN.

That is what it was in America too. Eleven.



Interesting, (And heart breaking at the same time ) didn't know that or I did but had forgotten it? I know I thought I had some vast knowledge about pre-industrial Europe, and all, but.. memory is a b***h.
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August 25th, 2018 at 7:00:28 PM permalink
The vows of chastity taken at a confirmation at age seven were not so absurdly irrelevant since the age of consent was nine and society considered females to be less able to regulate their own conduct than a male.

Of course since the church imposed taxes and poorhouse assessments, being a wealthy landowner meant there was a necessity to be on very good terms with the Bishop.

Victorian boys were often dressed as girls when young and had long curls. Indeed in Victorian England and in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in colonial times a boy under eleven was legally considered to be a female.
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