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September 5th, 2014 at 3:47:51 AM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

Not sure if he is seriously pissed or if he was just trying to make himself a martyr for the sake of the Wiz's mental well being...

I think he is trying to get his own talk show and he is drunk. Buzzard said a true sadist says no when a masochist says please.
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September 5th, 2014 at 6:59:14 AM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

Not sure if he is seriously pissed or if he was just trying to make himself a martyr for the sake of the Wiz's mental well being...



I didn't take it seriously. Why is no one asking if the Wizard was serious?
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:02:14 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Why is no one asking if the Wizard was serious?



I never think he's not serious when he says he's angry. At such times it's best to back off slowly.
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September 5th, 2014 at 10:11:45 AM permalink
I'm sure everyone would join me in wishing the Wizard a speedy resolution to whatever it is that has upset him enough to look for people to ban.
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September 5th, 2014 at 10:58:13 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I never think he's not serious when he says he's angry. At such times it's best to back off slowly.




As it is with bears, don't make eye contact either.
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September 5th, 2014 at 11:44:47 AM permalink
oh I'm sure he is just fine

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September 5th, 2014 at 1:15:10 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

This is about as weak as it gets. Mike, you light weight son of a bitch. How bout I put my boot in your ass. Thats what will happen if we ever meet face to face. I'll put a boot in your ass, dude. You asshole, don't ever show weakness like that in my presence. Put your foul mood on somebody else. If you ever attempt to put your foul mood on me again I will kick your ass on Main Street at High Noon.



Thanks for being the guinea pig. Three-day suspension.


This is Marcy, my son's guinea pig.
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September 5th, 2014 at 1:20:02 PM permalink
Careful, Mickey. That's number four. We don't want to lose you.
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September 5th, 2014 at 1:21:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for being the guinea pig. Three-day suspension.


This is Marcy, my son's guinea pig.

Lots of history with those things. Originally kept as a food source, which I find amazing. Imagine the conversation back then wondering where fido was then eating him for dinner unknowingly.
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September 5th, 2014 at 1:56:24 PM permalink
I think Mickey has a point. I don't particularly like being thought of as the couch that someone has to scratch. I'll give Mike a small benefit of the doubt, but the post, and its implications, rubbed me the wrong way 100%.
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September 5th, 2014 at 1:59:18 PM permalink
Where do you buy a hat that small? Do they make GP clothing and hats?
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September 5th, 2014 at 2:19:21 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Where do you buy a hat that small? Do they make GP clothing and hats?



I wonder if Buzz gave it to him...
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September 5th, 2014 at 2:24:08 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I think Mickey has a point. I don't particularly like being thought of as the couch that someone has to scratch. I'll give Mike a small benefit of the doubt, but the post, and its implications, rubbed me the wrong way 100%.



Which post. Mike was kidding, Mickey was kidding.
Mickey just went too far with it.
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September 5th, 2014 at 2:34:06 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I think Mickey has a point. I don't particularly like being thought of as the couch that someone has to scratch. I'll give Mike a small benefit of the doubt, but the post, and its implications, rubbed me the wrong way 100%.



In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted yesterday, but I truly was in a once a year foul mood, but was still joking around. As Bob said, Mickey took his response too far. Note I gave him only three days, despite his long suspension record.
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September 5th, 2014 at 2:39:17 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted yesterday, but I truly was in a once a year foul mood, but was still joking around. As Bob said, Mickey took his response too far. Note I gave him only three days, despite his long suspension record.




Maybe I should have posted my Just for Fun thread here instead :)
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September 5th, 2014 at 2:41:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I assume that hijacking is allowed in this thread, given the title.

That said, I'm in a foul mood. Who can I ban?



Babs, I mean this metaphorically, but I can not believe no moderator had the balls to suspend " Wizard " for this blatant example of trolling. Mike's House = Mike's Rules. But nowhere in the rules do I see Administrators being exempt from the rules of conduct. A 3 day suspension seems appropriate and should be enforced immediately. To quote Aceofspades " Justice delayed is justice denied. ".

If this causes Mister Shackleford to be unable to post his NFL picks, so be it. Perhaps in the future he will be more cognizant of what Little Beaver said when he grew up to be a white man. If all the Administrators remain derelict in their duties, can someone at least PM me what size pointed hat the Wizard wears.

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September 5th, 2014 at 2:48:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted yesterday, but I truly was in a once a year foul mood, but was still joking around. As Bob said, Mickey took his response too far. Note I gave him only three days, despite his long suspension record.



Then you should also suspend yourself, for trolling a member into being banned.

edit: I didn't see Buzzard's reply, which I wholly agree with. No troll, no rant. No rant, no ban.
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September 5th, 2014 at 3:47:33 PM permalink
Damn, I really liked that post, and was hoping for good things to come from it.
Quote: Wizard

That said, I'm in a foul mood. Who can I ban?


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September 5th, 2014 at 4:31:19 PM permalink
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Hmmm, anybody we know?
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September 5th, 2014 at 4:45:21 PM permalink
Being in a foul mood is not a valid excuse. I know Mike, Mission145 and a certain AP are not having a good year. But if having a bad year was an excuse for violating the rules, I should have a free pass, TRUST ME !
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September 5th, 2014 at 4:53:02 PM permalink
He didn't troll anyone, just asked whom he could ban. I took it more as a warning than a "come f*** with me and be my guinea pig".
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September 5th, 2014 at 4:55:23 PM permalink
Quote: RS

He didn't troll anyone, just asked whom he could ban. I took it more as a warning than a "come f*** with me and be my guinea pig".



LOL...that is the very definition of trolling.
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September 5th, 2014 at 4:55:25 PM permalink
Duplicate
I got a plan, we take all your picks we reverse them like one of those twilight zone episodes where everything is the opposite. You say "black" we go white.
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September 5th, 2014 at 4:56:48 PM permalink
Quote: VCUSkyhawk

LOL...that is the very definition of trolling.



Um. What?
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September 5th, 2014 at 5:50:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I assume that hijacking is allowed in this thread, given the title.

That said, I'm in a foul mood. Who can I ban?



This is a troll. When Mickey wrote

Quote: mickeycrimm

This is about as weak as it gets. Mike, you light weight son of a bitch. How bout I put my boot in your ass. Thats what will happen if we ever meet face to face. I'll put a boot in your ass, dude. You asshole, don't ever show weakness like that in my presence. Put your foul mood on somebody else. If you ever attempt to put your foul mood on me again I will kick your ass on Main Street at High Noon.



He was 100% right. The curses are part of the way he expresses it. But it doesn't change the validity of the sentiment. Go ahead, ban me for agreeing with someone who cursed you out. But if you are going to be honest, ban yourself for three days.
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September 5th, 2014 at 5:53:23 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

But it doesn't change the validity of the sentiment. Go ahead, ban me for agreeing with someone who cursed you out. But if you are going to be honest, ban yourself for three days.



Why are you guys making an issue out
of this? None of it was SERIOUS!
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September 5th, 2014 at 5:56:40 PM permalink
Seems like Mickey got 3 days for funning then !
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September 5th, 2014 at 6:35:32 PM permalink
He got suspended for the CONTENT of his post, not for his actual INTENT.
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September 5th, 2014 at 6:38:22 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Seems like Mickey got 3 days for funning then !



Quote: Wizard

I assume that hijacking is allowed in this thread, given the title.

That said, I'm in a foul mood. Who can I ban?



Sounds serious enough to me.

Quote: Wizard

No. Forget the list. I've got an itchy ban finger and the first person to step over the line is going to get popped.

I hope so. Cue the dawn.



Number two. Not a LOL in sight yet.

Quote: Wizard

Thanks for being the guinea pig. Three-day suspension



Nothing about it not being serious.

Quote: Wizard

In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted yesterday, but I truly was in a once a year foul mood, but was still joking around. As Bob said, Mickey took his response too far. Note I gave him only three days, despite his long suspension record.



Oh, NOW it's all a joke.

Again, I call for a suspension of Wizard, for not treating his forum, and his forum members, with the proper respect. It's like a cop that gets in a foul mood. Decides to take it out on a citizen, so he goes and picks on someone who he knows has a bit of a temper. Dares him to swing. Doesn't matter that the guy knows the cop is joking when the guy gets his arm twisted up behind his back, tossed in the back of the cruiser, and taken to the hoosegow to sleep it off, and then the next morning let go with the charges dropped. Because hey--no harm, no foul, right? We were all just having fun, after all. But the folks who saw it, they know what happened.
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September 5th, 2014 at 6:56:38 PM permalink
Can you troll a thread that is for miscellaneous discussions?
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September 5th, 2014 at 6:58:38 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Can you troll a thread that is for miscellaneous discussions?



Substitute the word "goad", then. Same intent, same result.

I've said my piece. Whatever happens happens.
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:06:50 PM permalink
Is there any chance Mickey C. would be crying in his beer tonight about it?

Crying +190
Not -220
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:09:15 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Substitute the word "goad", then. Same intent, same result.

I've said my piece. Whatever happens happens.




Nothing is gonna happen... SIGH Groucho had it so right :

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September 5th, 2014 at 7:09:43 PM permalink
I think he's more of a whiskey guy. I'll take the under on the beers.
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:10:43 PM permalink
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I think he's more of a whiskey guy. I'll take the under on the beers.



shhhhhhh, don't blow a good AP
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:38:34 PM permalink
I love watching magic. Penn and Teller have been my favorite for years.

I have been watching a lot lately between AGT, wizard wars, fool us, and a few other shows. I am to the point where the only way that these are done is either 1. camera tricks, 2. the audience and judges are in on it, or 3. they have one of the remotes from the move Click where they can stop time and complete the trick.

Some of these things that they are doing are just not possible. There is just no way it can be done. Even some of the close up stuff or the prediction stuff. Nope not possible.
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September 5th, 2014 at 7:41:19 PM permalink
Lucky that y'all didn't hammer the other defect in the line before the DD's Bikini Carwash & Casino Joint crack technical staff sobered up enough to get it fixed.
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+220 [vs.] -190

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September 5th, 2014 at 7:54:27 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Lucky that y'all didn't hammer the other defect in the line before the DD's Bikini Carwash & Casino Joint crack technical staff sobered up enough to get it fixed.

Quote:

+220 [vs.] -190



I thought that was an error, but wasn't sure. I don't do (much, if any) in sports bets, so I always get confused on the + and - signs.

+220 means "bet 100 to win 220" and -190 means "bet 190 to win 100"....right? If that's true, then one could bet both sides and be a guaranteed winner...yes?
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September 5th, 2014 at 8:01:06 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: DrawingDead

Lucky that y'all didn't hammer the other defect in the line before the DD's Bikini Carwash & Casino Joint crack technical staff sobered up enough to get it fixed.

Quote:

+220 [vs.] -190



I thought that was an error, but wasn't sure. I don't do (much, if any) in sports bets, so I always get confused on the + and - signs.

+220 means "bet 100 to win 220" and -190 means "bet 190 to win 100"....right? If that's true, then one could bet both sides and be a guaranteed winner...yes?



not a guarantee win but can't lose

bet 290 to get paid 320
or
bet 290 to get paid 290
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September 5th, 2014 at 8:02:06 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: DrawingDead

Lucky that y'all didn't hammer the other defect in the line before the DD's Bikini Carwash & Casino Joint crack technical staff sobered up enough to get it fixed.

Quote:

+220 [vs.] -190



I thought that was an error, but wasn't sure. I don't do (much, if any) in sports bets, so I always get confused on the + and - signs.

+220 means "bet 100 to win 220" and -190 means "bet 190 to win 100"....right? If that's true, then one could bet both sides and be a guaranteed winner...yes?



I have this problem as well since I am relatively new to sports betting. How I remember is minus = you pay that much to win $100, and plus = how much you win paying $100. Of course I bet the Seahawks almost every week so I'm used to laying odds, that's how I remember it as well :)

Does this discrepancy mean you net $30 per bet on both sides?

I'm a sucker for lay bets. If I played craps I'd lay the 4 and 10 all day. Last Superbowl my favorite bets were "no overtime", another one I can't remember but it was at least -500.
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September 5th, 2014 at 8:04:51 PM permalink
Quote: RS

+220 means "bet 100 to win 220" and -190 means "bet 190 to win 100"....right? If that's true, then one could bet both sides and be a guaranteed winner...yes?

Yes, that's correct.

Give that man the fabulous souvenir volcano-clock & complimentary fun-book (and cancel his tickets).

ADDENDUM: Thought I'd give the world famous WoO Sports Futures Calculator a little evening workout to stretch its legs a bit by entering +220 & -190:
Quote: Wizard's Gizmo

House Edge: -3.34%

https://wizardofodds.com/games/sports-betting/futures-calculator/

+190 vs. -220:
Quote: Wizard Thingy

House Edge: 3.13%

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September 5th, 2014 at 9:02:54 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Sounds serious enough to me.



Number two. Not a LOL in sight yet.



Nothing about it not being serious.



Oh, NOW it's all a joke.

Again, I call for a suspension of Wizard, for not treating his forum, and his forum members, with the proper respect. It's like a cop that gets in a foul mood. Decides to take it out on a citizen, so he goes and picks on someone who he knows has a bit of a temper. Dares him to swing. Doesn't matter that the guy knows the cop is joking when the guy gets his arm twisted up behind his back, tossed in the back of the cruiser, and taken to the hoosegow to sleep it off, and then the next morning let go with the charges dropped. Because hey--no harm, no foul, right? We were all just having fun, after all. But the folks who saw it, they know what happened.




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September 5th, 2014 at 9:06:00 PM permalink
If you bet $100 on "Crying - YES" at +220 then if that ticket is the winner it will pay $220 plus your $100 for a total of $320.

If you bet $190 on "Not - NO crying" at -190 then if that side is the winner that ticket will pay $100 on top of your $190 for a total of $290. And if you bought an additional ticket on the same side of "Not" for $19 then if this is the winner that added ticket will be worth $10 added to $19 for a payout of $29.

So, with our three tickets, by putting $100 on yes and $209 on no, we have invested a total of $309 altogether. If there is crying, our total cost of $309 pays us back $320 from the one good ticket for an overal profit of $11. If that ticket is worthless, then our other two tickets are worth a total of $319 ($290 & $29), leaving us a profit of $10 after accounting for everything. Heads we win, tails we win, repeat 1,000 times and cry to the bank, but don't expect a buffet comp.
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September 6th, 2014 at 7:05:23 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I think Mickey has a point. I don't particularly like being thought of as the couch that someone has to scratch. I'll give Mike a small benefit of the doubt, but the post, and its implications, rubbed me the wrong way 100%.

Just can't figure out what the point was of this whole episode.
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September 6th, 2014 at 8:12:50 AM permalink
Not one of Mike's better moments, that's for sure. How much **** does it take to fill a Wizard's hat ?
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September 6th, 2014 at 8:31:44 AM permalink
wow you guys are really over reacting to nothing. His house, his rules. If you don't like them you have other options.
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September 6th, 2014 at 8:40:03 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

wow you guys are really over reacting to nothing. His house, his rules. If you don't like them you have other options.



I do agree about the his house/his rules thing. But an analogy would be if you were opening your house for a party and then challenging them to misbehave and then (gleefully)tossing somebody out for calling you out on your rude behavior.

I personally think it is bad form, and yes, I could go elsewhere...but that is still not the point.
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September 6th, 2014 at 9:19:59 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Some of these things that they are doing are just not possible. There is just no way it can be done. Even some of the close up stuff or the prediction stuff. Nope not possible.



I can't stand watching magic on TV, they always seem quite willing to use trick photography. I can't understand the purpose of that.
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September 6th, 2014 at 9:38:33 AM permalink


What happened to good old fashioned fun like this? Who remembers when they used to show this on Wide World of Sports?
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September 6th, 2014 at 10:54:40 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I can't stand watching magic on TV, they always seem quite willing to use trick photography. I can't understand the purpose of that.



But they always make a point to say that they aren't so it must be true
/sarcasm

Even though I am almost sure that they do, I still like to watch it. Who knows maybe it's not.
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