Philip Seymour Hoffman Found Dead in apatment, age 46
February 2nd, 2014 at 1:55:36 PM
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The New York Times is reporting that actor Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead in his apartment today, apparently of a heroin overdose.
Find the Times article here.
What an actor this man was. His list of accomplishment is profound. My condolences to his family.
Find the Times article here.
What an actor this man was. His list of accomplishment is profound. My condolences to his family.
Yo field, yo come, both gunna get you some!
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:02:46 PM
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From the article:
I denounce any involvement!
Quote: NYTThe plastic envelopes near Mr. Hoffman’s body that were believed to be heroin were stamped with two drug brands: one had purple letters spelling the words Ace of Spades and the other had a red icon of the ace of hearts, according to a law-enforcement official.
I denounce any involvement!
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:04:24 PM
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The list grows and grows, of actors who just can't
say no to drugs. Rich and famous isn't enough,
gotta be high all the time too. His best work was
probably in front of him.
say no to drugs. Rich and famous isn't enough,
gotta be high all the time too. His best work was
probably in front of him.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:22:12 PM
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Don't you think it take a certain personality type to become an actor/musician? I wouldn't doubt that most of them have experimented with drugs. They're emotional people, and I think they deal with things differently than say a Marine Drill Sergeant.
(R Lee Ermey is the one to watch...)
(R Lee Ermey is the one to watch...)
Yo field, yo come, both gunna get you some!
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:22:31 PM
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I guess that this means more work for Norbert Leo Butz.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:24:44 PM
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Does not take a special personality to be a drug addict ! It's just the famous one's whose deaths make the front pages.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:31:30 PM
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Quote: BuzzardDoes not take a special personality to be a drug addict ! It's just the famous one's whose deaths make the front pages.
Not what I said.
Yo field, yo come, both gunna get you some!
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:36:48 PM
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Never meant in that vein at all. Just some people think drugs are a sign of a certain personality fault. And that one profession is more prone than another. I dealt with drug addicts as Chief Shop Steward at AT&T as well as in my personal life. Very few winners in that game.
Replying to Bob " Rich and famous isn't enough,
gotta be high all the time too. "
There but for the grace of God goes I.
Replying to Bob " Rich and famous isn't enough,
gotta be high all the time too. "
There but for the grace of God goes I.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:51:19 PM
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Quote: BuzzardDoes not take a special personality to be a drug addict ! It's just the famous one's whose deaths make the front pages.
Actually...
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
February 2nd, 2014 at 2:57:53 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThe list grows and grows, of actors who just can't
say no to drugs. Rich and famous isn't enough,
gotta be high all the time too. His best work was
probably in front of him.
"H" claims another victim.
I think actors are are predisposed to get hooked. Actors are almost always attention-whores. That is why they go into performing in the first place, they like the attention. But they are not "on" all the time. So they get high to escape being alone.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:07:34 PM
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Stunning loss.
Again, God Dam the Pusherman. He was in detox last March, thought he licked it. OD'ed in the bathroom a la Lenny Bruce, found with a set of works in his arm by a playwright associate who had access to his flat. Good Lord.
He was very functional, lucid and discreet - insanity-free and bad press-free through it all. Always a pro on set, no Prima Dona press, the complete opposite of John Belushi, Linsday Lohan, and Robert Downey Jr. in his dark days. Few knew.
Discontinuity here, a real conflict for us of PSH, being seen as a sober, professional, on-the-ball, a "thank-God-for-him" talent who'd never be envisioned to go out like Lenny Bruce or John Belushi.
I bang my chest on this one.
Again, God Dam the Pusherman. He was in detox last March, thought he licked it. OD'ed in the bathroom a la Lenny Bruce, found with a set of works in his arm by a playwright associate who had access to his flat. Good Lord.
He was very functional, lucid and discreet - insanity-free and bad press-free through it all. Always a pro on set, no Prima Dona press, the complete opposite of John Belushi, Linsday Lohan, and Robert Downey Jr. in his dark days. Few knew.
Discontinuity here, a real conflict for us of PSH, being seen as a sober, professional, on-the-ball, a "thank-God-for-him" talent who'd never be envisioned to go out like Lenny Bruce or John Belushi.
I bang my chest on this one.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:14:32 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanSo they get high to escape being alone.
Or fame and fortune wasn't what they thought
it would be and the disappointment is so great
they use drugs to escape.
One of the Vanderbilt's once said "The difference
between rich people and poor people is, the poor
still think money will help."
And the rich don't suffer from that delusion. They
know all money does is change your lifestyle, it
doesn't change all the things wrong with you personally.
This is why there are so many miserable lottery
winners.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:15:00 PM
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He was good and will be missed. Drugs like heroin are dangerous and accidental overdoses are normally just that. It's usually the people who quit and come back to it who overdose because they misjudge their tolerance level.
I am a robot.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:17:49 PM
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Just last week Bill O'Reilly had his guy Jesse at Sundance
interviewing celebs. Jesse said not only wouldn't Hoffman
talk to him, he turned on his heel and ran (literally) in the
other direction. Jesse thought it very odd behavior.
interviewing celebs. Jesse said not only wouldn't Hoffman
talk to him, he turned on his heel and ran (literally) in the
other direction. Jesse thought it very odd behavior.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:24:10 PM
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Quote: EvenBobJust last week Bill O'Reilly had his guy Jesse at Sundance
interviewing celebs. Jesse said not only wouldn't Hoffman
talk to him, he turned on his heel and ran (literally) in the
other direction. Jesse thought it very odd behavior.
Paranoid behavior.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:36:12 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:36:19 PM
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Owning Mahoney.
A must see for members of this forum.
A must see for members of this forum.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:42:10 PM
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Quote: AZDuffman"H" claims another victim.
"C" caffeine. I've had coffee that tasted like it should have a death card. One of those late night casino diners where they pot sat and cooked for hours with el-cheapo coffee that tasted like dirty rag water.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:45:42 PM
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Quote: coachbellyOwning Mahoney.
A must see for members of this forum.
Also, Hard Eight.
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:49:09 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerI guess that this means more work for Norbert Leo Butz.
In case anyone is wondering.
Norbert Leo Butz
February 2nd, 2014 at 3:53:40 PM
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Quote: coachbellyOwning Mahoney.
A must see for members of this forum.
Damn Straight. Thank you. Hoffman played it as cold and as honest a gambling junkie as can be, ironically hiding it flawlessly until it all came crashing down. Uncanny parallel.
I will also say in that movie John Hurt played a superb "sublimely greasy and greedy casino manager" in Atlantic city who knew his deal but took his cash anyhow.
John Hurt heaped more disgrace on the gaming industry in that role than ANY I have ever seen.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
February 2nd, 2014 at 4:14:10 PM
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It's an art to appreciate simple things. To live like a millionaire you don't have to become one. Unfortunately, most people believe money is a solution to all their problems. Drugs and alcohol give you a boost and for a while person feels happy and energized, but there is always the opposite side of a coin, these people pay a hefty price for their enjoyment.The man had a talent for acting , most of us dream about, but he failed where the solution is on a surface.
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:14:40 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI have no sympathy for these drug addicts, especially heroine. They get what they deserve.
My nomination for the STUPIDEST post of 2014 !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:26:16 PM
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February 2nd, 2014 at 5:30:00 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:31:18 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI have no sympathy for these drug addicts, especially heroine. They get what they deserve.
I am glad that you have never had drugs touch your life directly or via your loved ones but people don't choose to be drug addicts.
Actually if you were to get hooked on anything from, a damage to your body point of view, heroin is probably is the easiest on your system. You can actually function quite normally well hooked on it if you don't have to spend all your time worrying about how you are going to get the next hit.
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:46:06 PM
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Quote: kenarman
Actually if you were to get hooked on anything from, a damage to your body point of view, heroin is probably is the easiest on your system. You can actually function quite normally well hooked on it if you don't have to spend all your time worrying about how you are going to get the next hit.
OTOH, heroin is probably the hardest one to break away from. It is the drug that really first destroyed the black community. Main drug that spreads AIDS. Not just hard to break away from but probably easiest to get hooked on. It is the last drug I would want to see a loved one get into.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 2nd, 2014 at 5:49:00 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanOTOH, heroin is probably the hardest one to break away from. It is the drug that really first destroyed the black community. Main drug that spreads AIDS. Not just hard to break away from but probably easiest to get hooked on. It is the last drug I would want to see a loved one get into.
I believe it was Steven Tyler who stated that the only drug harder to quit than heroin was nicotine
February 2nd, 2014 at 6:20:18 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesToo f'ing bad!
My nomination for the second stupidest post of 2014 !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 6:27:28 PM
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Norbert is the awesome! I saw him in "Is He Dead?" a few years ago. Very funny guy but I kept thinking at the time, he reminds me so much of Philip Seymour Hoffman.Quote: TankoIn case anyone is wondering.
Norbert Leo Butz
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
February 2nd, 2014 at 6:50:05 PM
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Quote: Yo11The New York Times is reporting that actor Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead in his apartment today, apparently of a heroin overdose.
Find the Times article here.
What an actor this man was. His list of accomplishment is profound. My condolences to his family.
Who gives a shit?
February 2nd, 2014 at 7:05:38 PM
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Quote: Sabretom2
Who gives a shit?
This seems harsh. But if you are going to go that route, who gives a 'shart' would be more appropriate. (From along came Polly). Lol
February 2nd, 2014 at 7:44:01 PM
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Looks like he will "Phillip" a Grave
or Kaput-a
or No one will "Seymour" of Hoffman
Always humor if you look for it out there.
or Kaput-a
or No one will "Seymour" of Hoffman
Always humor if you look for it out there.
February 2nd, 2014 at 7:47:27 PM
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February 2nd, 2014 at 7:57:27 PM
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trust me, I know very little about any movies or actors, but I knew brian molony who this hoffman guy portrayed on owning mahowny and he was bang on. The fact that he died from drugs is sad but i have no sympathy for these people...what a waste.
get second you pig
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:03:31 PM
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Quote: kewljThis seems harsh. But if you are going to go that route, who gives a 'shart' would be more appropriate. (From along came Polly). Lol
The fact you recall a quote from that movie concerns me. And I actually saw that movie in the theater. :-\ But yes, I agree the post you originally quoted is a bit harsh. I was surprised that Hoffman got this much attention today, so obviously people do seem to give a "shart".
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:05:06 PM
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" The fact that he died from drugs is sad but i have no sympathy for these people...what a waste. "
How dare he have an addiction that killed him. The nerve of that guy !
How dare he have an addiction that killed him. The nerve of that guy !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:19:52 PM
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Love that, " attention-whores " Lol.... Never heard that one. A new one coined for me today. :)
Quote: AZDuffman"H" claims another victim.
I think actors are are predisposed to get hooked. Actors are almost always attention-whores. That is why they go into performing in the first place, they like the attention. But they are not "on" all the time. So they get high to escape being alone.
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:20:47 PM
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Looks like he's had addiction problems since college.
Probably lucky he lived as long as he did. Chasing
the dragon..
Probably lucky he lived as long as he did. Chasing
the dragon..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:24:41 PM
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hmmmm that movie is old ...... not many know about it .
Quote: midwestgbAlso, Hard Eight.
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:26:23 PM
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Philip Seymour Hoffman sold his soul for fame & fortune, not realizing how alone & lonely it really was.
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:28:54 PM
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Quote: corvetteracingPhilip Seymour Hoffman sold his soul for fame & fortune, not realizing how alone & lonely it really was.
Maybe, but he was an addict long before he was
famous. He said in an interview that in college he
liked anything that got him high and knew he had
a substance abuse problem way back then.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:30:46 PM
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I have a friend name Bo. Did 5 years for possession , second offense.
Sort of a bum wrap. He was clean at the time and trying to help a friend of his's daughter get clean. Let her and kid move into house with him.
Narc had no knock warrant, found drugs in her bedroom dresser drawer. But he had the felony rap sheet. She overdosed before his trial. BAM 5 years. Lived in basement of my house for a year, got a job as truck mechanic. While living with me and Josie he broke up with a girl because she would go out drinking one night a week. He
bought a new Jeep, moved out, and I thought he had a chance to beat his addiction. WRONG
Last I heard he sold everything and was living in a flea bag motel on Colfax Avenue. Of course we all know drug us is a victimless crime, don't we ?
Sort of a bum wrap. He was clean at the time and trying to help a friend of his's daughter get clean. Let her and kid move into house with him.
Narc had no knock warrant, found drugs in her bedroom dresser drawer. But he had the felony rap sheet. She overdosed before his trial. BAM 5 years. Lived in basement of my house for a year, got a job as truck mechanic. While living with me and Josie he broke up with a girl because she would go out drinking one night a week. He
bought a new Jeep, moved out, and I thought he had a chance to beat his addiction. WRONG
Last I heard he sold everything and was living in a flea bag motel on Colfax Avenue. Of course we all know drug us is a victimless crime, don't we ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:37:08 PM
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The timing of his death coincides with a major heroin alert in te NYC area about Horse being laced with Fentanyl-based drugs. According to CNN the "Brand" found with him was "Ace of Hearts/Ace of Spades" which to the best of my limited knowledge was not on the alert list. I think "24K" and "Bud Ice" were two mentioned.
Very Sad, he was wonderful in Truman.
Very Sad, he was wonderful in Truman.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:40:33 PM
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Quote: 98ClubsThe timing of his death coincides with a major heroin alert in te NYC area about Horse being laced with Fentanyl-based drugs. According to CNN the "Brand" found with him was "Ace of Hearts/Ace of Spades" .
They say the stuff he had was at least 6 years
old, he must have bought it and forgot he had
it. Typical druggie with money. He also forgot
how pure it was and it killed him.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:45:50 PM
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Very possible, and not the first time its happened for sure.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
February 2nd, 2014 at 8:55:58 PM
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It would be preferable for us if you would deny any involvement rather than denounce it.Quote: aceofspadesI denounce any involvement!
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:01:12 PM
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He's a lawyer, Never use a 4 letter word when you can use an 8 letter word.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:09:05 PM
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Quote: BuzzardHe's a lawyer, Never use a 4 letter word when you can use an 8 letter word.
Or a 12 letter word with a hy-phen..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 2nd, 2014 at 9:19:40 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesFrom the article:
Quote: NYTThe plastic envelopes near Mr. Hoffman’s body that were believed to be heroin were stamped with two drug brands: one had purple letters spelling the words Ace of Spades and the other had a red icon of the ace of hearts, according to a law-enforcement official.
Okay.... if there is to be any intelligent discussion about drugs and in particular heroin...please start with the following:
Most heroin addicts are addicted to the needle, not the heroin.
Most heroin overdoses lead to deep slumber its hard to kill someone with heroin and this 'overdose' nonsense is really hypersensitive reaction to trace impurities.
Most people on heroin do not get "strung out".
I've already mentioned the Newport Folk Festival and how a top performer can be high and no one even suspect it. Anita O'Day.
Thats why there are code words and phrases. "Anyone got one on"?
The greatest sales aid for a drug dealer is AA and its associated twelve step abbreviations galore: where else does the court sentence your customers to hear "I'm helpless against drugs and must go back to my dealer".
Heck,, can you imagine how utterly cheap drugs would be if they were legal?
And how many people would be unemployed without our war on drugs?
