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November 21st, 2013 at 6:10:22 AM permalink
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:25:41 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Let's all reveal a secret...

Its generally best not too... that is why they are called secrets.

I tried to learn about Sports Books but it was essential to have some knowledge of sports. I have none. Oh I've heard terms like leagues and conferences, I've heard of "all stars" and finally figured out they are a composite team.

I really don't know when football season is or baseball season is. I know Monday nights used to be football on TV and perhaps still is, but I don't watch it or know which seasons it happens. I did learn that college and pro football is different and different in scoring but had not always been. Still don't know too much about plays available or why last minute plays may be suspicious as to betting. I know football is slow as mollases and I've learned that markers are not highlighters.

I'm not too sure what happens in this thing called Jay Alley, though I do seem to know a bit about baseball...two nine man teams and something about innings.

Basket ball is a complete mystery of course, but it seems bookies know all this stuff automatically and can even factor in such things as European officials from various countries and their differences when it comes to scoring.
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:07:11 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

as far as pee-ing goes, without neighbors now, the yard is really getting hosed down regularly.



Is there anything better? I have certain shrubbery that I've not trimmed in a decade, just to maintain my outdoors pee spot. Works a trick when you're too dirty to want to brush off, take off your shoes, wash your hands, etc to use the indoor one.

Nude walks are awesome as well. Taking a late shower in mid summer and stepping outdoors still dripping wet is a treat. There's just something about being naked and outside.

I shave my legs every May. Takes a long time to grow back, so it keeps me nice and cool all summer.
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:37:04 AM permalink
Quote: Face

I shave my legs every May. Takes a long time to grow back, so it keeps me nice and cool all summer.




I agree - nothing wrong with trimming the shrubbery
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:50:26 AM permalink
Quote: Face

INude walks are awesome as well. Taking a late shower in mid summer and stepping outdoors still dripping wet is a treat. There's just something about being naked and outside.



Agree. Priceless to be able to do it and not be charged with indecent exposure.
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:55:59 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

ND = Notre Dame?
Your ND ladies visit my Maryland Terrapins Jan 27 and its gonna be on national TV, ESPN 2.
Bet? I only offer because Skylar Diggens graduated. Last time we played your team, Skylar totally torched us.



Yeah, sure! Since it's a forum bet, do you want to make it for a sum, or for something like keeping an embarrassing signature for a week, month, etc?
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:57:54 AM permalink
Quote: Face

(being able to take a leak in the yard)Is there anything better?



Not too many things!

I have developed some theories about this. I think we are not too removed from being a species that marked its territory with urine.

Rhinos use their dung to mark territory. Don't think *we* have any instincts about the smell of our dung? Observe the guy who farts in the room*. Everybody else is disgusted, but he himself, after denying it perhaps, thinks it is funny. Real funny ... it might be one of those times he collapses in helpless laughter even. Don't try to tell me there's not some kind of thowback to caveman days here.

*a room only with other guys, best observed when everyone is kicking back. He knows women are going to be disgusted. He won't admit it in that group.
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:04:09 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I enjoyed it; my sister was incredible (first team All-State). Women's BB was just coming online when I was at Creighton; Title IX had just passed a couple years earlier and there was a phase-in period while we were in school. (Note Creighton has one of the best BB'ers in the country right now, though a man. The women's team has contended through recent years.) Women play more like Duke under Coach K or UNC under Dean Smith; it's all about the team coordination and strategy, great passing and placement, not dunking, fast breaks, and powerdriving. Great to watch, as Mosca said, if you're a game purist.



For me, it's not only the strategy, it's the intensity. When you watch a close game between top teams you can see those women just pouring it all out, and sometimes you see an athlete give more than they themselves thought they could. It is the essence of sports. And the women battle both the court and the other team. For the men, the court itself isn't a challenge.
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:08:26 AM permalink
Here's a secret.... Nah, forget it. I keep 'em because I don't want anyone to know.
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:09:30 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Here's a secret.... Nah, forget it. I keep 'em because I don't want anyone to know.





Boooooring LOL
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:15:55 AM permalink
Pissing in the yard is a secret? I thought that's what guys do.
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:20:05 AM permalink
Hmmm...seems many of these secrets involve urination. OK...here's mine: I wash my hands before using the bathroom. Why would I want to touch my junk with dirty hands?
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November 21st, 2013 at 8:21:23 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Boooooring LOL



Okay. I can't finish things. I don't know why this is, but the closer I get to the end, the stronger the urge to do something else gets. I tried four times to finish college, and finally stopped torturing myself, 17 credits shy after 9 years, some community college, two stints at Cornell, and one at Pitt. The worst time of year for me is tax time; I do my own, and I can't tell you how many times I've started at 9PM on April 14th.
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November 21st, 2013 at 9:20:50 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


I shave my chest!



1. I shave a lot more than my chest. If I didn't, some parts of my anatomy would be completely hidden.

2. I punched a hole in the wall in my room at the four queens. Instead of being a man and paying for the damage, I put the piece back in place and apparently no one has noticed.

Yes I know I'm a terrible human being but that felt good to get off my chest. Thanks, Ace.
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November 21st, 2013 at 9:40:58 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

I punched a hole in the wall in my room at the four queens. Instead of being a man and paying for the damage, I put the piece back in place and apparently no one has noticed.


I've stayed at the 4 queens. It might be hard to notice a hole in the wall.

Seriously, though, was this associated with, ahem, negative variance?
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November 21st, 2013 at 10:38:50 AM permalink
The pooped in underwear in the 1st floor men's room trashcan this past summer, was mine.

You fine folks are the first to know. The investigation continues.
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November 21st, 2013 at 10:40:02 AM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

The pooped in underwear in the 1st floor men's room trashcan this past summer, was mine.

You fine folks are the first to know. The investigation continues.




Follow the scent...
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:07:06 AM permalink
I can't stand babies and/or small children. They are needy, whining brats and I never find them cute or adorable. I mean I don't want any harm to come to them, or in keeping with body function theme of this thread, I don't want to urinate on them. Lol. But, please keep your bratty kids away from me. :-)
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:18:46 AM permalink
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:24:25 AM permalink
Kids in general irritate the crap out of me. Parents
worship their children now, the fat little porkers.
When I was a kid, my mother would throw us out
after breakfast in the summer and lock the door.
She'd let us back in for lunch. Parents didn't know
where their kids were most of the time and didn't
care. My mom would be arrested today if she locked
her kids out.
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:31:51 AM permalink
I remember thinking WTF is a "play date"......helicopter parents are a hoot. "Child on Board"
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:33:59 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Kids in general irritate the crap out of me. Parents
worship their children now, the fat little porkers.
When I was a kid, my mother would throw us out
after breakfast in the summer and lock the door.
She'd let us back in for lunch. Parents didn't know
where their kids were most of the time and didn't
care. My mom would be arrested today if she locked
her kids out.





Bob - were we separated at birth...?
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:40:29 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I can't stand babies and/or small children. They are needy, whining brats and I never find them cute or adorable. I mean I don't want any harm to come to them, or in keeping with body function theme of this thread, I don't want to urinate on them. Lol. But, please keep your bratty kids away from me. :-)




And another thing, none of them have jobs. I don't even want to hear them until they are self supporting.

They only smell clean for a very short time and they pee on themselves. I swear some of them are part billy goat.

New parents seem to have some kind of immunity to their whining, if your around it enough it doesn't bother a person as much.

I'm starting to see the wisdom of adult communities. Kids are for kids.

I live across from a big church and in they're approach to the world have decided to build a giant friggin playground, ouch.
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November 21st, 2013 at 11:46:55 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

And another thing, none of them have jobs. I don't even want to hear them until they are self supporting.

They only smell clean for a very short time and they pee on themselves. I swear some of them are part billy goat.

New parents seem to have some kind of immunity to their whining, if your around it enough it doesn't bother a person as much.

I'm starting to see the wisdom of adult communities. Kids are for kids.

I live across from a big church and in they're approach to the world have decided to build a giant friggin playground, ouch.




Build it and they will cum
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November 21st, 2013 at 12:12:48 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Build it and they will cum




Damn, I was doing better when I was just irritated with the noise and the mess.
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November 21st, 2013 at 12:15:24 PM permalink
The Brits had it right when they let the nannies
raise the kids and the parents only saw them at
dinner, where they weren't allowed to speak. I
have a friend who was born in the 30's and his
parents raised him that way. He had to wear a
suit for dinner and never spoke unless spoken to.
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November 21st, 2013 at 12:28:01 PM permalink
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November 21st, 2013 at 1:50:59 PM permalink
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November 21st, 2013 at 2:01:36 PM permalink
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November 21st, 2013 at 2:06:21 PM permalink
Quote: KeyserSoze

I have $45,000 cash in a safe deposit box that my wife knows nothing about.



:applause:
Nicely done
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November 21st, 2013 at 2:35:45 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

I've stayed at the 4 queens. It might be hard to notice a hole in the wall.

Seriously, though, was this associated with, ahem, negative variance?



Isn't it always? Hopefully, a big November makes up for it ;)
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November 21st, 2013 at 2:41:16 PM permalink
I've never seen a single episode of any TV cop
show like Law and Order and all these CSI type
shows. My brother watches all of them and his
life doesn't seem any better than mine.
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November 21st, 2013 at 2:58:54 PM permalink
Comments on several points raised above:

>The Brits ...
Heck, all wealthy parents focus on genetics and money and send the brats away to boarding schools if possible. Swiss schools if they are very rich, but away somewhere.

>45k in a shoe box
You don't KNOW what she knows. Some wives have lawyers, cpas and private detectives doing audits their husbands know nothing about. One couple had a box of magazines involving restraint and pain that they thought were very well hidden. The mother started some sort of Mother-Daughter discussion ... and the daughter revealed she knew about the magazines under the loose floorboards in the closet.
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November 21st, 2013 at 3:00:20 PM permalink
Quote: Face

I shave my legs every May. Takes a long time to grow back, so it keeps me nice and cool all summer.


Damn, this kills the image that I had of Face. I always pictured him as some rugged, Daniel Boone type of guy. :D
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November 21st, 2013 at 3:21:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Women's college basketball is freakin' amazingly good. The intensity is unreal. Don't watch it for it's comparison to the men's game, watch it for what it is and you'll be blown away. Mrs and I are ND fans, but other than that we will watch whatever game is on.



Watch it for what it is?

Not to drift a thread, but I can watch grass grow and be impressed if I "watch it for what it is."

I started on a marginal high school basketball team. I was not getting a scholarship to play basketball anywhere. However, I was good enough to play AAU basketball in the summer between baseball games (which I was good enough to get a scholarship to play).

I played against Semeka Randall, a woman who played in the WNBA. One of the best 17-18 year old females in the country at the time. So good she was playing with boys, etc.

She was a sideshow. She started and played for her team, but was far and away the worst player on the court, probably in the gym.

Don't give me that "Watch it for what it is" crap, because what it is, is inferior athletes playing against even worse athletes, now with tattoos.

Give me the bench of a high school all star team from the suburbs in Cleveland, Ohio, and I swear they could compete with the WNBA.
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November 21st, 2013 at 3:25:30 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca


Women's college basketball is freakin' amazingly good. The intensity is unreal. Don't watch it for it's comparison to the men's game, watch it for what it is and you'll be blown away. Mrs and I are ND fans, but other than that we will watch whatever game is on.


Quote: terapined


ND = Notre Dame?
Your ND ladies visit my Maryland Terrapins Jan 27 and its gonna be on national TV, ESPN 2.
Bet? I only offer because Skylar Diggens graduated. Last time we played your team, Skylar totally torched us.


Quote: Mosca

Yeah, sure! Since it's a forum bet, do you want to make it for a sum, or for something like keeping an embarrassing signature for a week, month, etc?



I'm really up for anything. I'm a low roller and pretty just gamble for fun. When I'm in Vegas, I pretty much just lay down 10 on a team just to make it fun to watch a game.
How about 10 bucks. Winner pays loser via paypal. Kind of a lunch bet.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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November 21st, 2013 at 4:17:27 PM permalink
I also have one more thing.......

I struggle with keeping my attention focussed on one thing for longer then, perhaps 10 minutes and that is stretching it. The computer is perfect for me because it keeps me flicking through 10 browsers I have open reading at least 5 articles at a time.

It wasn't a problem when I was a kid (not that I had noticed, I was too busy getting high and other stupid s**t) but recently it has gotten progressively worse. Perhaps I have some kind of reverse OCD or something, meaning it didn't affect me when I was younger but it does now?

I sometimes struggle to sleep as I keep myself awake thinking about the things I had said to everybody I spoke witht hat day......really silly things :)

Anyway, feels good to share sometimes, especially with the faceless masses who don't really judge you, perhaps just look at the computer screen funny!
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November 21st, 2013 at 4:34:27 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

For me, it's not only the strategy, it's the intensity. When you watch a close game between top teams you can see those women just pouring it all out, and sometimes you see an athlete give more than they themselves thought they could. It is the essence of sports. And the women battle both the court and the other team. For the men, the court itself isn't a challenge.



I live in UConn country where the women's basketball team is worshiped. Coach Geno is worshiped even more and will be at the helm at least through 2018 after signing a $10.86 million contract.
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:29:51 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur


I sometimes struggle to sleep as I keep myself awake thinking about the things I had said to everybody I spoke witht hat day......really silly things :)



I've found lately a good way to go to sleep is
find a comfortable position, and place your hands
where you want them to be. Then concentrate
on not moving them at all. Keep doing this (it
doesn't take long) and you'll get to a point where
you can't feel them anymore. When this happens
you're very near sleep, and you might find you
fall asleep before you lose contact with your hands.

If you feel your mind wavering back to running full
speed, force it to concentrate on your hands. Bob
Hope did something similar to this and could fall asleep
anywhere. He would take cat naps in a cab on the way
to the airport, or anywhere he wanted. He was asleep
in under a minute.
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:33:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I've found lately a good way to go to sleep is
find a comfortable position, and place your hands
where you want them to be. Then concentrate
on not moving them at all. Keep doing this (it
doesn't take long) and you'll get to a point where
you can't feel them anymore. When this happens
you're very near sleep, and you might find you
fall asleep before you lose contact with your hands.

If you feel your mind wavering back to running full
speed, force it to concentrate on your hands. Bob
Hope did something similar to this and could fall asleep
anywhere. He would take cat naps in a cab on the way
to the airport, or anywhere he wanted. He was asleep
in under a minute.



Funny you should mention this because I always have an issue with my hands, they need to be in just the right position, sometimes even one hand holding the other in an interlaced grip.....weird I know.

I'll give it a shot, thanks bob!
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:40:35 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

I also have one more thing.......

I struggle with keeping my attention focussed on one thing for longer then, perhaps 10 minutes and that is stretching it. The computer is perfect for me because it keeps me flicking through 10 browsers I have open reading at least 5 articles at a time.

It wasn't a problem when I was a kid (not that I had noticed, I was too busy getting high and other stupid s**t) but recently it has gotten progressively worse. Perhaps I have some kind of reverse OCD or something, meaning it didn't affect me when I was younger but it does now?

I sometimes struggle to sleep as I keep myself awake thinking about the things I had said to everybody I spoke witht hat day......really silly things :)

Anyway, feels good to share sometimes, especially with the faceless masses who don't really judge you, perhaps just look at the computer screen funny!



I would say you are feeling some long-term stress on an underlying emotional level. This sounds exactly like what we would see in controllers - it's really hard to focus when your subconscious is still trying to work something out, and it's easier to distract yourself on a superficial level with more trivial things when that's going on. Could be as simple as displacement anxiety while living half a world and 12 time zones away from those you love. JMHO. Not a doctor. Didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express. Just prior experience with some training about it in our arena.
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:44:40 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I would say you are feeling some long-term stress on an underlying emotional level. This sounds exactly like what we would see in controllers - it's really hard to focus when your subconscious is still trying to work something out, and it's easier to distract yourself on a superficial level with more trivial things when that's going on. Could be as simple as displacement anxiety while living half a world and 12 time zones away from those you love. JMHO. Not a doctor. Didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express. Just prior experience with some training about it in our arena.



Yeah you could be right. I have always prided myself in the fact that I don't feel stress. I never had a care in the world but now all of a sudden I'm married, bought a home, living away from my wife and dog, trying to get pregnant but not succeeding, tried everything.....

Perhaps now I am getting stressed about things, that would explain the reversed effects from when I was younger?

It kind of reminds me of the movie Anger Management when Adam Sandler keeps on saying that he isn't angry but actually he is :)

Hope I don't go "postal" and pull a monks panties over his head or something :)
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:48:48 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Yeah you could be right. I have always prided myself in the fact that I don't feel stress. I never had a care in the world but now all of a sudden I'm married, bought a home, living away from my wife and dog, trying to get pregnant but not succeeding, tried everything.....

Perhaps now I am getting stressed about things, that would explain the reversed effects from when I was younger?

It kind of reminds me of the movie Anger Management when Adam Sandler keeps on saying that he isn't angry but actually he is :)

Hope I don't go "postal" and pull a monks panties over his head or something :)



Naw...it just messes with your sleep and concentration. You'll be okay once you get back. Mean time, keep distracting yourself so the days don't crawl by. Do some yoga or calming exercises like EvenBob was suggesting. Do things with a purpose and time-worthy.
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November 21st, 2013 at 5:54:58 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Naw...it just messes with your sleep and concentration. You'll be okay once you get back. Mean time, keep distracting yourself so the days don't crawl by. Do some yoga or calming exercises like EvenBob was suggesting. Do things with a purpose and time-worthy.



That is at least part of the reason i'm woring on my little "project". Keeps me busy in my downtime and gives me some experience in a field I had very little before I commenced.

Thanks again
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:00:23 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Funny you should mention this because I always have an issue with my hands, they need to be in just the right position, sometimes even one hand holding the other in an interlaced grip.....weird I know.



You'll find when your mind is racing around, your hands
move frequently also. Notice when you wake up in the
morning, you can't feel your hands till you move them.
Immobilizing your hands sends a message to your brain
that it's time for sleep. It also helps to think about fragments
of dreams you can remember.
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OzzyOsbourne
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

all of a sudden I'm married, bought a home, living away from my wife and dog, trying to get pregnant but not succeeding, tried everything.....



even sex??
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Tomspur
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:14:04 PM permalink
Quote: OzzyOsbourne

even sex??



I knew when posting I should have clarified but oh well, guess I had to become the target of my first gaff sooner or later :)

You are a funny guy ozzy!!!
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:38:53 PM permalink
I've never seen an episode of star trek or star wars and don't know the difference.
get second you pig
odiousgambit
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November 21st, 2013 at 6:57:38 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

You don't KNOW what she knows.



I assume my wife knows everything. That doesn't mean everything gets discussed ... she plays dumb about some things, a tactic. Smart gal.

Fact is, undiscussed is just as good as something actually hidden.
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November 21st, 2013 at 7:14:24 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I'm really up for anything. I'm a low roller and pretty just gamble for fun. When I'm in Vegas, I pretty much just lay down 10 on a team just to make it fun to watch a game.
How about 10 bucks. Winner pays loser via paypal. Kind of a lunch bet.



You're on! $10 is fine with me.
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