FleaStiff
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September 23rd, 2013 at 10:45:16 PM permalink
auditory halucinations seem to be self developed coping mechanisms, much like these "alternate personalities" that patients develop with the help of therapists and patient websites. That fact that such alternate personalities are absurd seems irrelevant. The patient chooses them until such time as they choose not to hear them.

Its a question of secondary gain.

In a society such as the UK, they refuse to recognize multiple personality disorder and proceed against the license of any therapist who encourages such things. If the USA adopted such a stance, there would be a massive outcry from the various pharmaceutical and insurance-fed therapy industries.

Think of it as a bumper sticker: " I don't care what nine out of ten of the voices you hear tell you to do, if you come at me like a weirdo complaining that you are hearing voices, I will shoot and kill you."
lojo
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September 23rd, 2013 at 10:51:12 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

We shall see. I know that if it's caught early enough the chances for recovery are much higher. S/he may have to live with the voices and recognize them for exactly what they are. Frankly, I'm completely dreading that future.



Please don't dread, prepare. Use amazing things like sugar crisp apples when you need to. My thoughts of strength are with you. Different weeds might help now and then. Maybe try the stuff from Colorado with low tch and high xxx? Voices aren't necessarily S, sometimes they're just voices. Be well.
rxwine
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September 23rd, 2013 at 11:09:54 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

We shall see. I know that if it's caught early enough the chances for recovery are much higher. S/he may have to live with the voices and recognize them for exactly what they are..



Sometimes that's possible, but it's not always that the brain is just receiving odd stimuli and able to sort it out, (such as looking in a mirror and with practice you can learn to adjust your motion to reverse actions to do things). The logic processing can be messed up as well.

Years ago I had a girlfriend who had what would be described generally as schizophrenia, though I never personally heard the actual diagnosis, and there may be more refined diagnosis nowadays. She was fine for a long time but started believing cameras were everywhere (not Vegas which would be true these days, but Texas).

It was emotionally draining to reason with her as it got worse. I eventually ended up taking her to her brother in another city and he got her appointments with a psych doctor. He already knew she had been ill before.

Most likely the treatment is much better now. As long as the person doesn't go off it anyway.
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September 23rd, 2013 at 11:23:11 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Sometimes that's possible, but it's not always that the brain is just receiving odd stimuli and able to sort it out, (such as looking in a mirror and with practice you can learn to adjust your motion to reverse actions to do things). The logic processing can be messed up as well.

Years ago I had a girlfriend who had what would be described generally as schizophrenia, though I never personally heard the actual diagnosis, and there may be more refined diagnosis nowadays. She was fine for a long time but started believing cameras were everywhere (not Vegas which would be true these days, but Texas).

It was emotionally draining to reason with her as it got worse. I eventually ended up taking her to her brother in another city and he got her appointments with a psych doctor. He already knew she had been ill before.

Most likely the treatment is much better now. As long as the person doesn't go off it anyway.



I don't mean to be the asshole but if it is S the mental stuff will find a way around the drug. Hope is the enemy of peace if it is S.
I am a megalomaniac, I want there to be a way out. S is a rare and misunderstood disorder. i would wish me 5000 alzhieners wifes and grandmothers before I wished S on anyone
boymimbo
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September 24th, 2013 at 6:00:35 AM permalink
Generally that is not true. Schizophrenia is not a rare disorder, but it is misunderstood.

Drugs and CBT (Cognitive Therapy) are the typical course of action. Taking away the stressors that contribute to the disease also is extremely helpful, but not always possible.
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98Clubs
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September 24th, 2013 at 5:02:24 PM permalink
With a grain of truth applied to a Jester's commentary...
"Its not the voices in your head... its wether or not YOU win the arguement".

A lady and two others were escorting a majority-aged patient (female) into a local Donut Shop. Upon One of the aids entering, he noticed the shop was filled with TV sets (all broadcasting CNN but in closed-caption format, and therefore silent). He walked out immediately, and I could see a discussion. Slowly all four entered. The patient went to the cooler and got a coca-cola soda. She caught sight of one of the TV's and started pointing. The other three came to her side immediatly and the patient was slowly escorted out.

I was curious about this and happened to be outside the next time. One of the aids answered my question, "Its the TV sets, they are a major trigger" (for her patient I presume), and if the sound was on, the patient would not enter, and they would have gone elsewhere.

This was recent, with the Chicago shootings, and other violent stories making CNN headline status, plus Colo. flooding rescues... rather intense stories.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
lojo
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September 24th, 2013 at 8:55:42 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Generally that is not true. Schizophrenia is not a rare disorder, but it is misunderstood.

Drugs and CBT (Cognitive Therapy) are the typical course of action. Taking away the stressors that contribute to the disease also is extremely helpful, but not always possible.


True S is a degenerative disease with no cause, only course and symptoms. "Mild" conditions that mimic S can be helped immensely with cognitive and rational therapies that are easier to do than growing your own less than THC dope. The point is we don't know what the case is here (sorry not talking about you while you are in the room) if it is S, it is hopeless and a sort of hospice situation.
Of course if there is hope (thymine dymers can show it i think) then pray, wish, act and try everything.
I'm involved in some autism studies and have drawn some correlations with S. I'm also in touch with any great teacher from a rimpashea to Albert Ellis folks if you need some peace.

What I don't get about alzheimer's victims families is how easily so many give up - it must be a fearful thing. Same for S. Nobody knows, but people are working on it. Let that be your hope.
lojo
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September 24th, 2013 at 9:44:22 PM permalink
Quote: FrankScoblete

The newspapers are reporting that the Naval base shooter heard "voices in my head" and that might be one of the reasons why he went on a rampage (or not).

I have questions about voices in someone's head.

When a person hears voices in his head are the voices his own in terms of tone? Is the voice someone else's voice? If the voice is someone else can it speak a foreign language? Are the Naval shooter's voices all American? Men? Women?


If someone thinks he is hearing the voice of a German is the German voice speaking proper German even if the person hearing the voice knows no German?

Would anyone like to voice an opinion?



Interesting question and i'm sorry i didn't reply to the OP until now, Frank.
We have many well known incidences like the guy who shot Reagan, the guy who shot Lennon hearing voices. I'm sure there are alillion nay, billison, nay ttrillion incidences of folks hearing shit that nevr lead to violence. You have an angel and a devil, of course you do. in the quiet time in making aa decisio0n do you never hear your own voice in your head? of course you do. It is called self.
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September 24th, 2013 at 9:52:46 PM permalink
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lojo
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September 24th, 2013 at 9:53:28 PM permalink
oh my god, maybe i am so out of touch that I don't care if people admit they hear their own voice in their head. If not you might want to try it, listen. haha you saying I''m crazy cuz i hear me? I hear my voice, shouldn't you? Shouldn't you hear your own spoken voice in your head. wow reincarnate or someting and get with the progam there is an aware world out there. I hear me. Loud and clear.

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