I just had a long conversation with several people who are “true believers” in current alien visitations to our planet (please no remarks about true believers in dice control). To them UFOs are alien spacecraft. Now, that might be possible but I must say I am not the least bit happy if superior, space-traveling aliens have these idiotic craft.
Come on, if you look at our technology of just two hundred years ago and compare it to this morning’s – we are now living in a comparatively magical age. Picture 500 years from now. Wouldn’t today’s technology seem completely primitive?
“Oh, Puddin Head, look at those cave drawings and those iPads. So quaint.”
“You mean they used to get into contraptions called planes and fly? How awful. Why couldn’t they just fly the way we do?”
“They burned what to go around in that ugly car thing?”
So my problem is that here are these superior aliens flying around in craft that might be 20 years ahead of what we fly around in now. How could they make it through the galaxy in those crummy vehicles? Maybe if they could just teleport themselves as beings of light and zip through our world that would be impressive.
Or if they could simply transfer their minds into our minds without our minds knowing they were there – then they could see everything we see, feel what we feel, be what we are. That would be advanced since we wouldn’t really know they were here and yet their minds had been shooting through the void to get to us. Impressive.
The other thing about these aliens is that they are creepy. “Greetings, I am Agog from a distant planet and I have traveled many light years in my superior spacecraft to come to your planet. Now turn over so I can shove this metal device up your ass.”
Would superior aliens be that interested in our anal openings that they would travel so far to do this to us? Yet, the “contactee” cases almost always seem to have aliens shoving things into our butts.
One of the people I spoke to said in a hushed whisper, “The government knows all about this but they are suppressing it. They don’t want anyone to know we are being visited.”
Excuse me? Then how the hell did she know? Go look it up; there are hundreds if not thousands of books on UFOs and aliens with their anal probes. This could be the worst cover-up in history since everyone seems to know about it.
I really do hope there are aliens out there and I do hope we get to meet them – sans a scoping. But the whole field of UFOs right now just seems as annoying as a prostate exam.
Maybe everyone should have a "one way; do not enter" sign tattooed down there to direct the aliens away from our bottoms. (Combining 3 loony threads)
I think the probability approaches certainty, given the amount of planets "out there" that hypothetically could support carbon-based life, that there are other species extant with whom we might be able to interact. Have we met them yet? Not enough information.
We are kind of in an out-of-the-way corner of the multiverse, and younger than the majority of galaxies, so again hypothetically, with parallel rate of development over time, there should be significantly more advanced aliens somewhere.
We have been sending radio and television signals off-planet for what approaches a century now. I would think there are entities who might be detecting that activity and might be curious enough to follow them back to the source. OTOH, that presumes anyone would care that we're out here; quite a bit of arrogance in that thought, like an ant who's gotten into a car by mistake and thinks it's going to get a chance to report back to the hill on its adventure.
The only real hope for mankind, in the galactic sense, is to re-acquire the thirst for exploration and make the leap to interstellar space. Otherwise, Dr. Malthus will have the last laugh and we will eat ourselves out of house and home. I don't think we'll manage to get far enough ahead of the starvation curve to make the jump; too many lesser distractions. So that leaves us at the mercy of others visiting and giving us a ride. Time for the universal welcome mat to be placed on the doorstep.
Quote: IbeatyouracesTodays stuff will be primitive next week!
Almost.
What is truly amazing, though also esceedingly normal and common place, is that people throughout time have <gasp!> made do with what they had at hand, sometimes innovating in the process. So the Romans built roads and bridges, the Egyptians built pyramids, the Greeks built temples, the Babylonians built zygurats, the Americans built the Panama Canal, the Dutch built dikes to reclaim land from the sea, and the Brittish even managed to decode complex Axis cyphers without modern super computers or even an old Apple ][+ micro computer <w>
BTW, some ancient works are first rate even by today's standrads. Take the Roman Roads. While the surface leaves something to be desired, the roads are designed with means to prevent and mitigate flooding from regular rains; and some of systems are still in use today.
So there.
Quote: FrankScobleteWould superior aliens be that interested in our anal openings that they would travel so far to do this to us? Yet, the “contactee” cases almost always seem to have aliens shoving things into our butts.
Sounds like a curious sexual practice they bring with them from south of the border.
In truth, the aliens I meet are much more interested in lawn maintenance than in sodomy.
Quote: FrankScoblete
I really do hope there are aliens out there and I do hope we get to meet them.
I don't!!
If they show up, it won't be for a friendly meet & greet. Most likely they will be looking for some sort of resouce that they have exhausted and they are not going to be looking to negotiate for it....they will take it and be willing to eliminate us over any protests. Worse case scenario, that resourse that they need is food....and we are it!!
Show me the alien...
Quote: wrobersonShow me the alien...
Look in the mirror.
I suspect that life on earth developed from molecules / unknown life forms which came here from out of the solar system.
Whether this was by chance or design, I have no clue.
Hello, Johnny Appleseed?
Make that "Zor Appleseed."
Quote: FrankScoblete
I really do hope there are aliens out there and I do hope we get to meet them..
Good grief, not me. I don't even like meeting people
from eastern EU, particularly, let alone aliens. Give
me a chance to get used to humans, then maybe..
Quote: AxelWolfI't is sometimes fun to speculate about life on other planets. I really think the conditions that is needed to breed anything that is more intelligent then us, is far more rare then we think. Any Alien race probably would have ran out of resources, destroyed themselves or somehow been destroyed by some natural disaster, long before they advanced their technology needed to travel to our planet.
A sufficiently advanced Alien race could upload it's consciousness to something like a computer chip and live out a near infinite number of scenarios while flying through space. A god like race of aliens could theoretically even use the universe itself as a type of living computer on which it's consciousness has been "uploaded" or "projected". Such an alien race could then exist everywhere and at virtually every point in time.
Quote: KeyserSuch an alien race could then exist everywhere.
Kinda like spiders. There are thousands of spiders
on almost every acre of land on earth, some so
small you can't see them. Damn aliens..
This includes near copies and exact copies of the earth, you and me.
In that respect alien life is a certainty.
Should the universe be finite then alien life is still very likely
Why should this less than a speck of dust planet be the only one with life in billions of trillions of star systems.
Quote: kewljIf they show up, it won't be for a friendly meet & greet. Most likely they will be looking for some sort of resouce that they have exhausted and they are not going to be looking to negotiate for it....they will take it and be willing to eliminate us over any protests. Worse case scenario, that resourse that they need is food....and we are it!!
obligatory Twilight Zone clip
Quote: wrobersonAliens do not exist. Aliens do not exist at this time. And I live when someone does the math or presents odds that say they exist.
Show me the alien...
I attended an event with Commander James Lovell (of Apollo 13, etc) as the after dinner speaker a number of years ago. His take on this was that given the extremely vast number of stars and planets, that it is extremely likely that "aliens" do exist. He felt it was a mathematical certainty. But also given the extremely vast distance between solar systems, that there have never been alien visitors to planet earth.
However, Mrs. Q swears that she saw an alien type ship close up, ie within a couple hundred yards. It was there for a few moments, and then disappeared. There was another witness. So that's EXTREMELY COOL, she says she saw it and I believe she saw something. It remains Unidentified, it was Flying, and it was an Object.
Quote: wroberson
Show me the alien...
Mans best friend, my ass.
Quote: KeyserSozeAliens were placed on Earth long ago in the form of dogs. We let them in our home where they can observe us.
Well that explains the Death Ray Fido has been "playing" with.
Quote: FrankScoblete
Or if they could simply transfer their minds into our minds
Crazy dude: "The aliens are here."
Psychiatrist: "It's all in your head, I'm afraid."
Crazy dude: (Nodding knowingly) Exactly.
KB1
why doesn't Mexico have an olympic team?Quote: KB1The only aliens in the U.S.A. are illegal.
KB1
because anyone who can run, jump or swim is already across the border
Quote: EvenBob
I have started to write this a couple of times but always deleted it before posting. I'll try one more time. Think about this:
*a person is bothered by notions that he was abducted by aliens
*but he can't remember the details
*so bothered that he goes to a shrink
*the shrink puts him under hypnosis
*we now know this is a discredited practice that conjures false memories
*worse, it has the effect of convincing the subject that the memory is authentic
*the subject's revived memory, false or not, is about suspiciously rape-like anal sodomy
My question: is there a large group of people out there with repressed memories of anal rape who for some strange reason start to have dreams/feelings about alien abduction?
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