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Beethoven9th
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April 7th, 2013 at 8:32:53 AM permalink
who do you consider to be the all-time King of Late Night? Vote!
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boymimbo
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April 7th, 2013 at 9:58:48 AM permalink
Of course Carson is the king of late night, hands down.

Letterman is #2 in my opinion.
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April 7th, 2013 at 9:59:43 AM permalink
I know that Steve Allen started the Tonight Show, but I remember him much more from his Sunday evening show. I liked Jack Paar a lot, and I specifically remember a couple of his shows, but Carson was able to keep it going for such a long time that I have to consider him the "king." I understand that he wasn't a particularly benevolent despot and may have had a bit of a mean streak, but he certainly came across well on screen and knew how to show off his guests, not try to show them up as some "hosts" do.
EvenBob
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April 7th, 2013 at 11:45:23 AM permalink
Jimmy Fallon is almost as big a dickhead as Gonad
O'Brian. I can't stand either one of them. The constant
self deprecating humor wears real thin real fat,
especially O'Brian.
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boymimbo
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April 7th, 2013 at 12:42:08 PM permalink
In a DVR cable universe late night TV, while important, doesn't matter nearly as much as it used to.

Leno was retired once Kimmel demonstrated his viability to young viewers which commands ad rates. Once the idiots at NBC realized (probably through polling) that Fallon vs Kimmel would be a better match vs Leno they got rid of Leno.

IMO NBC should be spending its resources revamping the rest of its lineup and leaving late night alone.

Although Letterman has gotten very stale oh say for the past 8-10 years, his interviews with meaningful guests are much more entertaining and thoughtful than anyone else in late night.
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April 7th, 2013 at 8:38:11 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Although Letterman has gotten very stale oh say for the past 8-10 years, his interviews with meaningful guests are much more entertaining and thoughtful than anyone else in late night.



And even those interviews were much better in his NBC and early CBS years.

Letterman has been on as long as I've been watching late-night tv (IOW, his NBC show began around the time I started staying up late enough to watch him). It's one of those things that's always been there, and now I understand how my parents and grandparents felt about Carson, because he was the same way for them. It's going to be weird once he's not around.
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April 7th, 2013 at 10:38:49 PM permalink
I find Conan O Brien as funny as a box of old buttons, Fallon far to interested in looking good, and Letterman a smug old man. Most of the interviews reveal nothing, the adverts get in the way, and the 'bits' are tired in jokes. I'm not a fan of late night talk shows, I guess. I have enjoyed a few of Craig Ferguson's monologues, but otherwise, the whole format can die in a fire. But then, I don't care much about celebs talking... I care about their output.

The records they make, or the films they star in, or the books they write. Show me that, the person behind the output is rarely as entertaining as the media product itself. And if I really want to know about their lives, there's wikipedia and imdb to get the real interesting parts.
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:17:40 PM permalink
I don't get why they got rid of Leno. Jimmy
Fallon is just so lame, he has no edge like
Carson and Leno had. He's like the class
clown kid who never grew up. Leno was a
top notch comedian, he was even looked up
to in the stand up community as the best of
the best. Fallon is so low key he puts me to
sleep. His very first show didn't even get
the ratings Leno got with his farewell show.
Who cares about Fallon, they'll just watch Letterman.
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Beethoven9th
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:21:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I don't get why they got rid of Leno. Jimmy
Fallon is just so lame, he has no edge like
Carson and Leno had. He's like the class
clown kid who never grew up. Leno was a
top notch comedian

+1

Some people may dislike Leno, but even they have to admit that he was one of the top comedians for many years even prior to hosting The Tonight Show. Jimmy Fallon is just flat out lame & unfunny. Couldn't stand him on SNL either.
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EvenBob
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February 18th, 2014 at 2:25:02 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

+1

Some people may dislike Leno, but even they have to admit that he was one of the top comedians for many years even prior to hosting The Tonight Show. Jimmy Fallon is just flat out lame & unfunny.



I watched it last night and couldn't believe
NBC thinks we want to watch this little twerp
instead of Leno. What's with the dancing, he
looked like an idiot. Is it some lame variety
show now, like Merv Griffin had? Yeah, that'll
go over big. Snicker..

Leno is naturally funny. He has a lot of videos
he did of his old cars and he constantly cracks
jokes even then. He see's the funny side of
everything, he's a comic genius. When he was
on Letterman 30 years ago he was the best
guest Letterman ever had. He was always
hilarious.
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