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This came to mind as a local jail is going to be closed and those prisoners moved to a nearby one, thus requiring less overall employees to manage the same number of prisoners. The local Correctional Officers Union is taking out radio ads saying this is bad because there will be a loss of 'good jobs'.
Clearly it's crappy for the the 100k that lost their jobs, but I am of the opinion that nobody is owed anything. I've been fired and ive seen my fiancée get laid off of work 2 straight years when she was a teacher.
In this example, money is taken from productive activities and shifted to non-productive/producing activities.Quote: FleaStiffThe emphasis should be on community service, probation, etc. so as to eliminate the need for the jail cells rather than running them efficiently. The real concern is the loss of the jobs, not the loss of any sort of "production". What do the jail guards actually do? Prisoner detention and prisoner transport are not exactly producing anything of value in either location.
Quote: FleaStiffThe emphasis should be on community service, probation, etc. so as to eliminate the need for the jail cells rather than running them efficiently. The real concern is the loss of the jobs, not the loss of any sort of "production". What do the jail guards actually do? Prisoner detention and prisoner transport are not exactly producing anything of value in either location.
Jails, especially privatized ones - are too big of a business to run efficiently and actually rehab people
Those 100k men (or women) can easily be more productive than pushing buttons. How about science, art, or even childcare.
Based on the Correctional Officers Union logic we should lockup everybody in the country. Just think of all the "good jobs" that would create. I'm thinking 2 million prisoners is enough.Quote: SOOPOOImagine this hypothetical---- GE, which now employs 1 million people, announces that do to a new computer program they will be able to provide the exact same services and products but will only need 900,000 employees. So they will be firing 100,000 of them. You are POTUS, and are asked at a press conference if that is good or bad? How do you respond?
This came to mind as a local jail is going to be closed and those prisoners moved to a nearby one, thus requiring less overall employees to manage the same number of prisoners. The local Correctional Officers Union is taking out radio ads saying this is bad because there will be a loss of 'good jobs'.
Quote: SOOPOOImagine this hypothetical---- GE, which now employs 1 million people, announces that do to a new computer program they will be able to provide the exact same services and products but will only need 900,000 employees. So they will be firing 100,000 of them. You are POTUS, and are asked at a press conference if that is good or bad? How do you respond?
Which direction is good?
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FinsRule, you nailed it.........nothing else needs to be said except the Pick 6 is still alive at Gulfextreme.Quote: FinsRuleLife was better when everyone was a little less "productive"
Actually, I misread your quote.......Haiti is a lot less productive and I'm guessing life is not a little better. No wonder you can't hit a horse race. :-)Quote: treetopbuddyFinsRule, you nailed it.........nothing else needs to be said except the Pick 6 is still alive at Gulfextreme.
Nailed it MangoJ!Quote: MangoJOf course this is a good thing. How do you think our all wealth is created (let's say compared to 100 years ago) ? It's certainly not because we keep an army of weavers producing scratchy clothes, as with fancy production machines they would be unemployed.
Those 100k men (or women) can easily be more productive than pushing buttons. How about science, art, or even childcare.
so most of the jobs were crap. Lots of busywork, thats why
at any given time 40% of the workforce was drunk. Why
show up sober, nobody cares about your work output
anyway.
Thats socialism/communism. In capitalism, you constantly
have to be trimming the old and branching out into the
new. Its called growth.