for people looking for a good pocket gun
pocket carry chart
don't let the chart fool you...I pocket carry a J frame Smith & Wesson almost every day....
here is a youtube video from hickok45 on pocket carry...this guy has the best channel on YouTube IMO
pocket carry
Don't listen to Bob Costas...exercise your 2nd amendment right and carry a firearm!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking about something for my wife to carry, and didn't want something too small in power.
My daughter is licensed to carry. Twice she got pulled over on a traffic violation. Had to sit there for 10 minutes or so each time until back up arrived, before the first officer approached the car. They run the plates and if licensed to carry, don't take any chances.
Quote: vert1276my bad...I forgot The Wizard opened another forum for everything non gambling related.... but if I can help just ONE person exercise their 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm, I will consider that mission accomplished :)
Keep fighting the good fight. I got two people last year to apply for carry. I'm currently trying to figure out a way to get some momentum going to challenge the People's Republic of NYS's gun laws. Still small time now, but I can feel the power building...
Quote: BuzzardMy daughter is licensed to carry. Twice she got pulled over on a traffic violation. Had to sit there for 10 minutes or so each time until back up arrived, before the first officer approached the car. They run the plates and if licensed to carry, don't take any chances.
Your CCW isn't connected to DMV records. "Backup" comes based on conditions, like whether another LEO is close by, or is requested due to suspicion, area, or time of day/night. A LEO won't know about your license or weapon unless you tell them. Some states require you tell them immediately on a traffic stop.
She is my biological daughter, so she has never been stopped for a DWB.
Quote: FaceYour CCW isn't connected to DMV records. "Backup" comes based on conditions, like whether another LEO is close by, or is requested due to suspicion, area, or time of day/night. A LEO won't know about your license or weapon unless you tell them. Some states require you tell them immediately on a traffic stop.
I'm pretty sure in my state (WA) they are linked, although I'm not sure. I can't remember if they told us that during my basic handgun training or if I just read it on the internet. Unlikely during the class, since it wasn't for carry, just basic education.
Quote: BuzzardThat might be true now, but trust me, it was linked 7 or 8 years ago in Colorado.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI'm pretty sure in my state (WA) they are linked, although I'm not sure. I can't remember if they told us that during my basic handgun training or if I just read it on the internet. Unlikely during the class, since it wasn't for carry, just basic education.
Damn.
The more I know, the more I hate it. Planning cross country trips has me learning gun laws state by state, and nowhere is similar to anywhere else. What a cluster.
For the CO CWP holder: If a CO LEO pulls your vehicle over, runs the license plate number, and your permit data is in the database, the officer will be aware that the owner is a permittee.
Face, per a lot of states is appears to be linked !
Quote: vert1276my bad...I forgot The Wizard opened another forum for everything non gambling related.... but if I can help just ONE person exercise their 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm, I will consider that mission accomplished :)
I think this is good for WoV. Guys that normally carry lunch money around have $X,000 or $XX,000 in cash on them in Vegas. Carrying is a legit conversation.
Quote: FaceDamn.
The more I know, the more I hate it. Planning cross country trips has me learning gun laws state by state, and nowhere is similar to anywhere else. What a cluster.
There is a National Right to Carry being worked on that would allow you to carry in any state that has the right, as long as you have the permit from your state. Guess which party is against it??!!
Quote: wrongwayThere is a National Right to Carry being worked on that would allow you to carry in any state that has the right, as long as you have the permit from your state. Guess which party is against it??!!
Which? Stereotypically I would think the Big L Liberals, but someone told me Hillary had proposed something similar.
It's a good idea on the surface, but with such a vast array of requirements state by state, I wonder which state would be considered the framework. I find it impossible to believe NJ would ever let a Montana man carry open or concealed without a license just like he would in Montana. Some sort of Nationwide policy would have to be enacted, and that's where I worry. I think it'd be a lot farther away from Alaska's and a lot closer to NY's, which is unacceptable.
Of course when a LEO pulls you over he is performing what as know as a "Terry stop"(Terry vs Ohio) and he can ask at anytime whether you are carrying a weapon. at that time you must tell him if you are or not.....
For what its worth the cop knowing I was a non felon gun owner improved my encounters.
Quote: wrongwayThere is a National Right to Carry being worked on that would allow you to carry in any state that has the right, as long as you have the permit from your state. Guess which party is against it??!!
And where in the Constitution does the federal government get the power to pass legislation like that?
If you abuse or ignore the federal government's limited powers, given by the Constitution, to accomplish your goals, don't complain when the other side does the same. Strict adherence by everyone.
Quote: QuadDeucesAnd where in the Constitution does the federal government get the power to pass legislation like that?
If you abuse or ignore the federal government's limited powers, given by the Constitution, to accomplish your goals, don't complain when the other side does the same. Strict adherence by everyone.
the reason this will never happen is that the Federal gun laws are the minimum a state must adhere to...Many states have more stringent laws....So someone who has a carry permit in the state of Washington might not meet the criteria to hold a carry permit in the state of New York....But now many states have reciprocal agreements with each other...If you have a carry permit in one then you can carry in the other....Of example I have a CPL in the state of Washington....With this permit I can also carry in AK, AR, AZ, FL, IA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT
Quote: vert1276...But now many states have reciprocal agreements with each other...If you have a carry permit in one then you can carry in the other....Of example I have a CPL in the state of Washington....With this permit I can also carry in AK, AR, AZ, FL, IA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT
Which really sucks for people in the People's Republic, like yours truely. NYS has reciprocity with no one, so I have to cross the border and get a PA license, or enroll in a course for a UTAH class permit to carry out of state. I guess I should be thankful I at least have that option, but for obtaining the highest possible license in one of the most difficult states there are, you'd think I'd be good to go without all the additional hassle.
So beware casino-going gun owners coming in from out of state, none of your licenses are good here. NYS may have a "safe passage law" allowing you to transport guns through the state, but once you obtain and use lodging, you've just commited a felony. Welcome to NY! =)
Quote: vert1276the reason this will never happen is that the Federal gun laws are the minimum a state must adhere to...Many states have more stringent laws....So someone who has a carry permit in the state of Washington might not meet the criteria to hold a carry permit in the state of New York....But now many states have reciprocal agreements with each other...If you have a carry permit in one then you can carry in the other....Of example I have a CPL in the state of Washington....With this permit I can also carry in AK, AR, AZ, FL, IA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT
States do not have to adhere to federal law. It's up to the feds to enforce their own law.
Obviously for practical purposes the fed law is the floor for individuals.
Quote: QuadDeucesAnd where in the Constitution does the federal government get the power to pass legislation like that?
If you abuse or ignore the federal government's limited powers, given by the Constitution, to accomplish your goals, don't complain when the other side does the same. Strict adherence by everyone.
I agree that it would be a federal overreach, but the 2nd amendment has been incorporated against the states. Federal protection of that right against states is authorized under other 14th amendment incorporated rights.
I think it is all bogus and a bad idea, but the legal framework is there.
Quote: FaceDamn.
The more I know, the more I hate it. Planning cross country trips has me learning gun laws state by state, and nowhere is similar to anywhere else. What a cluster.
I've never really thought about this issue, seeing as how I live in Virginia and they practically issue you a firearm with your birth certificate here. However, this could also apply to child safety seat laws! My daughter is at the borderline of height for the booster seat requirement but then some states add in an age deal (luckily she'll be above that in a few weeks) as well so even though she's even taller than some of the 5th graders at her school she'd still need the seat in some states. It's not like we're indifferent to the safety of our kids since my husband takes care of patients who have been in accidents and his sister works with SafeKids USA, but for everything that's regulated on a state-by-state basis you have to do a little homework. And it's a pain in the ass when an airline loses your car seat, but that's another matter...
