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June 15th, 2012 at 6:55:20 AM permalink
Later tonight Nick Wallenda will tightrope walk across Niagara Falls from the US to Canada. Apparently, his contract with ABC says he must wear a tether to protect him in case he falls. But supposedly he can discard the tether if he feels it will be getting in his way. I say the whole tether thing is a sham and he will be ridding himself of it sonn after starting the walk, and that those 'requiring' him to wear it are well aware of it. I believe the tether discarding is just an attempt to add excitement and thus increase ratings.
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June 15th, 2012 at 6:59:12 AM permalink
i think he will take off the harness.
i sincerely hope he makes it.
do you remember this from march 22, 1978...
no harness, no net.
the death of karl wallenda


from wikipedia:
In 1978, at age 73, Wallenda attempted a walk between the two towers
of the ten-story Condado Plaza Hotel in San Juan, Puerto Rico,
on a wire stretched 37 metres (121 ft) above the pavement,
but fell to his death when winds exceeded 48 kilometres per hour (30 miles per hour).
The Wallenda family attributes the tragedy to
"several misconnected guide ropes along the wire"
and not the windy conditions.
A film crew from WAPA-TV in San Juan taped the fall, and the video,
featuring anchorman Guillermo Jose Torres' anguished narration of the fall, circled the world.
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June 15th, 2012 at 7:01:04 AM permalink
Forcing him to wear it is also a liability issue. If he willingly takes it off then he becomes liable.
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June 15th, 2012 at 7:11:37 AM permalink
The estimated COST of the tightrope walk is something like $1.3 Million, for setup, permits, insurance, etc.
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June 15th, 2012 at 7:42:06 AM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

The estimated COST of the tightrope walk is something like $1.3 Million, for setup, permits, insurance, etc.

That's relatively cheap considering all of the costs involved in a typical prime time TV production. Yeah, I realize that there are more costs than that. I'm just sayin...
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June 15th, 2012 at 1:34:28 PM permalink
This has been all over the TV for quite a while (local boy here). When it first started it was back and forth whether he'd be allowed, and it's been going on a while.

Why? I never understood the controversy (unless the controversy was planned). Plenty of people have terribly dangerous jobs, but they do them. This is his, what's the problem?

Even if it wasn't his job, who cares? I could also never figure how going over the Falls in a barrel was "illegal".
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June 15th, 2012 at 1:44:34 PM permalink
Quote: Face


Even if it wasn't his job, who cares? I could also never figure how going over the Falls in a barrel was "illegal".



mainly because they need to divert personnel from normal, sane people who actually may need help in an emergency
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June 15th, 2012 at 1:49:00 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Even if it wasn't his job, who cares?



Lawsuits?

I agree if people want to risk their lives on a stunt, be it for fun or for money, it's entirely their business. But by that same token, it's entirely their responsibility as well. So if they are injured or die, that's also their business.

BTW, yes there are plenty of dangerous jobs. But in such jobs the common practice is to take precautions to minimize the danger. Walking a tight rope over a very long fall without any kind of safety gear does not meet this criteria.
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June 15th, 2012 at 1:52:11 PM permalink
unfortunately, someone has to fish their corpses out of the river, or hose their stain off the pavement.
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June 15th, 2012 at 2:07:35 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Later tonight Nick Wallenda will tightrope walk across Niagara Falls from the US to Canada. Apparently, his contract with ABC says he must wear a tether to protect him in case he falls. But supposedly he can discard the tether if he feels it will be getting in his way. I say the whole tether thing is a sham and he will be ridding himself of it sonn after starting the walk, and that those 'requiring' him to wear it are well aware of it. I believe the tether discarding is just an attempt to add excitement and thus increase ratings.



I voted tether on. He should already have a tether connecting him to the balancing pole, so an extra cable should not be that big a deal, and the producers will save themselves a ton of insurance money.
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June 15th, 2012 at 2:15:28 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

mainly because they need to divert personnel from normal, sane people who actually may need help in an emergency



Aye, I agree with this. I even have experience, since an area precious to me is closed because of just this reason. But what ever happened to "at your own risk"? Which is better, "Don't do this ever or face legal repercussions" or "You shouldn't do this, but if you want to, go ahead. You're on your own."? Basically...
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...if people want to risk their lives on a stunt, be it for fun or for money, it's entirely their business. But by that same token, it's entirely their responsibility as well. So if they are injured or die, that's also their business.

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June 15th, 2012 at 2:20:06 PM permalink
Oh. I hoped to hear a report from someone about their trip to this great new tourist attraction.
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June 15th, 2012 at 2:23:04 PM permalink
Quote: Face

But what ever happened to "at your own risk"?



I'm guessing lawsuits happened.

I mean, just because Jones didn't mind risking his life and dying on your proeprty, doens't mean Mrs. Jones doens't mean the law and Jones' family won't hold you responsible. There's also this shifting of responsibility from the individual and towards everyone but the individual. It's sickening.

BTW While I do respect the right of every person to risk his life, there's no right to risk other people's lives. So driving under the influence is quite properly a crime. and if someone damages your property while commiting suicide, intentionally or not, you should be able to hold his estate liable.
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June 15th, 2012 at 2:56:29 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I'm guessing lawsuits happened.

I mean, just because Jones didn't mind risking his life and dying on your proeprty, doens't mean Mrs. Jones doens't mean the law and Jones' family won't hold you responsible. There's also this shifting of responsibility from the individual and towards everyone but the individual. It's sickening.



I know this as truth, hell, in 5 minutes I could rip of a page of all the things I've lost due to this liability mess. Can ANYONE explain it to me? I mean, if someone, without my permission, decides to use my property as an access point to their 4wheeler trail and wrecks up, they can sue me. HOW?! How, in any sense of the imagination, is this my fault? Even if I gave permission, still, how can I in any way be held responsible? Shouldn't it work exactly the opposite? Shouldn't I be able to sue for tearing up my lawn and getting blood on my grass, and disturbing my serenity by having the ambulance show up? I understand liability, as in someone should expect that if they ride with me, I'll be sober, able to drive, and have a car that functions properly. But if you run across my lawn, trip, and break a wrist, isn't that just your own damn fault?

If this guy, or anyone else at all wants to tightrope, canoe, barrel, jet ski, jet pack, backstroke, or jump over the Falls in a 1978 Pontiac Bonneville, I say let them. At their own personal and financial risk. More personal responsibility, less nanny-state.
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June 15th, 2012 at 2:57:35 PM permalink
i agree, as long as they bring their own clean-up crew, medics etc..
and put an amount of money in escrow to handle
any unforseeen expenses their death may cause.
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June 15th, 2012 at 3:18:38 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Aye, I agree with this. I even have experience, since an area precious to me is closed because of just this reason. But what ever happened to "at your own risk"? Which is better, "Don't do this ever or face legal repercussions" or "You shouldn't do this, but if you want to, go ahead. You're on your own."?



I totally agree with you Face. Taking informed risks should be a basic right. However, who pays the bills when someone exercising their right gets seriously injured, requires extended hospitalization, or search and rescue? We could say, "you're on your own." But we don't, and dole out millions of public dollars.

The fire departments have started a "signed waiver" program to allow homeowners who want to stay in their homes during brushfire evacuations to defend their properties, but they do so with the understanding that there is a risk they could be killed, and no one will help them. I'm fine with that.
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June 15th, 2012 at 4:02:58 PM permalink
I just hope he has a passport and the right to work in Canada when he enters the country about half way across...
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June 15th, 2012 at 4:17:48 PM permalink
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I just hope he has a passport and the right to work in Canada when he enters the country about half way across...



And Customs pestering him at the halfway point ;)

I wonder how the updraft, not to mention the moisture, is going to affect him? Now I'm wishing I would've went...
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June 15th, 2012 at 9:08:58 PM permalink
he made it.
he wore the safety harness though.
next: the grand canyon...
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June 15th, 2012 at 10:00:04 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

he made it.
he wore the safety harness though.
next: the grand canyon...



Who cares? He wore a safety harness. Shouldn't have even registered on the radar with a safety harness. Shame on ABC (or whoever televised this nonsense) for even showing it!!!!
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June 15th, 2012 at 10:21:54 PM permalink
i would do it with a safety harness, i am not sure what the achievement is here.
that whirring sound? his great grandfather, spinning in his grave...
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June 15th, 2012 at 10:32:27 PM permalink
"The daredevil was greeted on the Canadian side by two border agents, who welcomed him to the country and inspected his passport."

Awesome :)
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