First tungsten die for sale
January 10th, 2013 at 10:40:07 AM
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:52:25 AM
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That's fun.
However, Nevada regulations require the cavities carved for the pips to be backfilled in order to keep the weight of the six faces equal. This die is unbalanced.
Interesting to note the edge wear too. Was it rolled on concrete?
However, Nevada regulations require the cavities carved for the pips to be backfilled in order to keep the weight of the six faces equal. This die is unbalanced.
Interesting to note the edge wear too. Was it rolled on concrete?
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:58:07 AM
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No, that's from manufacturing. Concrete wouldn't touch this thing's polish.
All the pips were engraved with diamond, and the polish with a diamond polish. I did it myself by hand and it is DAMN hard work.
It's not a dice to use on the craps table. It would DESTROY everything in its path.
Functionally, it is a very destructive weapon at a quarter pound.
All the pips were engraved with diamond, and the polish with a diamond polish. I did it myself by hand and it is DAMN hard work.
It's not a dice to use on the craps table. It would DESTROY everything in its path.
Functionally, it is a very destructive weapon at a quarter pound.
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:18:21 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaThat's fun.
However, Nevada regulations require the cavities carved for the pips to be backfilled in order to keep the weight of the six faces equal. This die is unbalanced.
Functionally, the die is so heavy, and the pip engravings so shallow, it is effectively balanced.
There is also a way to have carved cavities on a die in balance, by sizing the pips and depth.
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:25:42 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanFunctionally, the die is so heavy, and the pip engravings so shallow, it is effectively balaced.
There is also a way to have carved cavities on a die in balance, by sizing the pips and depth.
I suppose you could fill the cavities with gold... or depleted uranium...hehe
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:32:01 PM
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The density is 18.5 g/cc. This is the same as 24k solid gold. So feel free to fill them with solid gold after you receive them!
A quarter pound of 24k gold is much more expensive, but the only other way you can get a 3/4" cube this heavy.
A quarter pound of 24k gold is much more expensive, but the only other way you can get a 3/4" cube this heavy.
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:47:40 PM
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Quote: AhighA quarter pound of 24k gold is much more expensive, but the only other way you can get a 3/4" cube this heavy.
What about osmium? Not quite the price of gold, and much harder than gold or tungsten.
Depleted uranium's a bit hard to get, though. Cheap, but rarely sold. But legal to own up to 15 lbs.
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:48:31 PM
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Quote: AhighThe density is 18.5 g/cc. This is the same as 24k solid gold.
According to my highschool chemistry and physiscs teachers, an element's density or specific wight is unique. that is, a cc of one element can't have the same mass as a cc of a different elemnt. Of course, this holds true only for pure elements.
Quote:A quarter pound of 24k gold is much more expensive, but the only other way you can get a 3/4" cube this heavy.
You can always change the gravitaional constant of the Universe :P
BTW We did an alumminum die in shop class about a hundred years ago. Mine ended up with a rectangular vertical cross-section :)
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:54:25 PM
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Quote: NareedYou can always change the gravitaional constant of the Universe :P
Is that suggestion from Q?
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January 10th, 2013 at 12:54:46 PM
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Aaron, could I suggest a few more pictures of the die in context? I have no idea how big it is.
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January 10th, 2013 at 1:05:58 PM
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Although the pips aren't exactly flush, it appears to be the same size as standard casino craps dice. I.E. 3/4"Quote: AcesAndEightsAaron, could I suggest a few more pictures of the die in context? I have no idea how big it is.
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January 10th, 2013 at 1:14:42 PM
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So your starting bid is $200 but your buy it now is $250? So... are you hoping it gets bid up over 200 but below 250? Interesting auction strategy
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15:36 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEights
I know Q used that gimick. But it stands to reason if you want to make a mass press harder on gravity alone, you can only do so by changing G (or by fattening the Earth considerably; and it's round enough already).
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January 10th, 2013 at 1:34:03 PM
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There is a kickstart campaign with only a few minutes left http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/124127689/precision-machined-dice
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January 10th, 2013 at 1:37:02 PM
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160 notes get you six dice, including in Tungsten. With mass compensation on each pip depth.
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January 10th, 2013 at 2:07:56 PM
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I bought/support. Two aluminum dice for $12.
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January 10th, 2013 at 2:12:04 PM
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What is the purpose except for "weight training"?
Tungsten is a heavy (physically heavy) metal. One of my advertisers sells Tungsten wedding bands as a low cost option instead of gold and platinum bands -- looks like, weighs like, but a fraction of the cost.
I've often suggested to my trainer who also loves to play craps that she develop a game using three-pound and five-pound dice.
Tungsten is a heavy (physically heavy) metal. One of my advertisers sells Tungsten wedding bands as a low cost option instead of gold and platinum bands -- looks like, weighs like, but a fraction of the cost.
I've often suggested to my trainer who also loves to play craps that she develop a game using three-pound and five-pound dice.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:14:04 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanI bought/support. Two aluminum dice for $12.
I brought a set of four. I'm a big boardgamer, these will be a nice practical piece for my boardgame shelf.
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January 10th, 2013 at 2:15:08 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonWhat is the purpose except for "weight training"?
To stockpile for when the Para-Universe begins exchanging it for Plutonium 186?
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January 10th, 2013 at 4:08:01 PM
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You would really have to be, "on your toes" when the stick yells, "Die Down!"... Of course, they would be great for punishing folks who fail to keep their hands outside of the rail...Quote: AlanMendelsonI've often suggested to my trainer who also loves to play craps that she develop a game using three-pound and five-pound dice.
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January 10th, 2013 at 4:29:42 PM
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Ouch. I kept hitting the chips one time and got warned about it... so my next throw went too far to the other side and hit somebody in the head. 5lb dice would've been... "fun". (They didn't complain about me rolling short for the rest of the session.)
January 10th, 2013 at 9:41:33 PM
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Quote: thecesspit160 notes get you six dice, including in Tungsten. With mass compensation on each pip depth.
This is the first Tungsten die ever created. That's why I'm asking more money for it.
The person who started the kickstarter project stopped responding to e-mails from me after a few conversations.
I've had this project to create Tungsten dice underway for over a year. It took about 4 months just to get the tungsten shipped from China.
I wouldn't expect Tungsten dice from the kickstarter project any time soon, but good luck!
Also, this die was not mass produced. I created it myself from a tungsten cube that I had custom ordered for the size and specifications I wanted ($4000 minimum order).
After hand polishing with diamond polish and a dremel, I've got a lot of effort put into this, and I have no problem hanging on to it for less than $200.
There will never be another first Tungsten die. This is it to the best of my knowledge. It was created quite a while ago, and has been sitting on my desk for several months as I haven't wanted to put the work into making any more nor wanting to give it up because I like it a lot.
I have more than an hour of my time (probably two) just in the finish of this die (creating pips and polishing the surface), and it's absolutely the nicest of the two I have made so far.
The size is 3/4" and is the same size as standard casino dice.
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January 10th, 2013 at 9:53:36 PM
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Quote: AhighI created it myself from a tungsten cube that I had custom ordered for the size and specifications I wanted ($4000 minimum order).
After hand polishing with diamond polish and a dremel, I've got a lot of effort put into this, and I have no problem hanging on to it for less than $200.
Wat?????
Unless I am missing something, nice job finding a sucker to fund this.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03:26 PM
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If you don't mind me asking... why would you sell this? Especially for just $200 or $250 or whatever? Are you going to make yourself another one?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23:22 PM
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how do you know it's the VERY FIRST tungsten die? there are a lot of people in this world and i am sure you don't know about everything they're doing.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31:52 PM
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This from 2008
I'm contacting a few companies that do custom metal work, to see if anyone can make for me some custom tungsten dice. I'd most likely want to go for 12mm base instead of 16mm base, since it would probably be cheaper because there's a LOT less material used (and they'll be so dense and heavy, I wouldn't want that much weight). So far, I have no idea what it would cost, or when I could get them, or anything, but is anyone interested? I'm sure I could manage 7-piece d20, or 10d10 for White Wolf or whatever else you might want that for. It would certainly be expensive, probably $60+/set, but I don't actually know, it's likely to depend largely on the number of each die to be made. But, since these things aren't mass produced, you just might have the coolest thing in the whole game shop! And it's possible (and probable) that neither you nor anyone you meet will ever see another set of dice like these.
I'm contacting a few companies that do custom metal work, to see if anyone can make for me some custom tungsten dice. I'd most likely want to go for 12mm base instead of 16mm base, since it would probably be cheaper because there's a LOT less material used (and they'll be so dense and heavy, I wouldn't want that much weight). So far, I have no idea what it would cost, or when I could get them, or anything, but is anyone interested? I'm sure I could manage 7-piece d20, or 10d10 for White Wolf or whatever else you might want that for. It would certainly be expensive, probably $60+/set, but I don't actually know, it's likely to depend largely on the number of each die to be made. But, since these things aren't mass produced, you just might have the coolest thing in the whole game shop! And it's possible (and probable) that neither you nor anyone you meet will ever see another set of dice like these.
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:33:53 PM
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And a finished product
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/general-topics/79748-tungsten-crap-dice-anyone.html
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/general-topics/79748-tungsten-crap-dice-anyone.html
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:48:51 PM
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Quote: BuzzardAnd a finished product
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/general-topics/79748-tungsten-crap-dice-anyone.html
That's AHigh's die....
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:54:10 PM
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it looks cool but who would want only one die? at least make a pair. id say a pair is prob worth at least 3x as much as a single die. then the value of any additional dice diminish from there.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:01:37 PM
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Quote: thecesspitThat's AHigh's die....
Yep, so it might be the first, but it's odd that a kickstarter project from a chick creating metal dice pops up in the past month and generates $150k of interest and has a ton of google hits, and she'll give you a pair of tungsten dice for AHigh's price.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:26:29 PM
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I doubt it's the first
January 11th, 2013 at 1:06:42 AM
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Quote: AhighThis is the first Tungsten die ever created. That's why I'm asking more money for it.
There will never be another first Tungsten die.
The first car is valuable. The first computer. The first cola machine even. But the first tungsten die? Unless the industry as a whole moves to WHA dies, it's going to be like the first bright orange fridge or the first WoO polo shirt.
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January 11th, 2013 at 3:18:48 AM
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Quote: P90The first car is valuable. The first computer. The first cola machine even. But the first tungsten die? Unless the industry as a whole moves to WHA dies, it's going to be like the first bright orange fridge or the first WoO polo shirt.
Hey, ya know, whatever! That is my price. $250 is absolutely NOTHING for the first engraved tungsten die.
I have all the evidence that I need to prove that it is the first.
If it is not the first one ACTUALLY PRODUCED, where is the image of the one that was produced before mine?
Quote:The next metal to be tackled will be the Brass, followed by Copper and then the Stainless. After those, I will get to tackle the Damascus steel, Titanium, and finally the tungsten. See the pattern? Soft metals first then work our way up to the hardest. They will be shipped in this order too.
The above is a quote from today's kickstarter update. I can tell you that almost all the Tungsten comes from China, and she's a very long stretch away from completing this order.
This is the ONLY die that I have. My time is worth a lot more than what I'm charging for this die. That's what the die is worth to me. I am providing a written document with this die that it is the first tungsten die ever created.
Don't want it? Don't buy it!
I hesitated to offer it for sale but I thought it would be worth it if someone bought it for $250 not to be in possession of it any longer.
I am WAY ahead of the person doing the kickstarter project, and I would absolutely not be surprised if she got her idea from me. She was freely talking to me until I gave her a link to my website, and then she went cold on conversation. Maybe she recognized the images as images she saw that gave her the idea? Maybe she was just overloaded with stuff to do herself.
Either way, I know way more about how hard it is to get 3/4" Tungsten cubes than she does.
I offered to sell her my cubes as I have several thousand of my own personal dollars wrapped up into this.
You guys calling whoever might buy these a sucker need to realize that I have probably 100 hours plus $4000 wrapped up into producing this single die.
$250 barely takes the froth of the top off of those costs. If nobody buys it, BIG DEAL.
It's still the only first tungsten dice to the best of my knowledge until I see the image of the real first along with proof. I did my research!
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January 11th, 2013 at 3:24:28 AM
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Quote: P90The first car is valuable. The first computer. The first cola machine even. But the first tungsten die? Unless the industry as a whole moves to WHA dies, it's going to be like the first bright orange fridge or the first WoO polo shirt.
I am the one who currently possesses the first tungsten die. I decide what it is worth until it is no longer in my possession.
I actually hope it does NOT sell because I absolutely do NOT see the value going down.
A big part of my effort in listing it for sale is to stake the claim that I came up with the idea of creating tungsten dice before the person who has started this kickstarter project. Not that it's a particularly amazing idea to come up with, but I was already doing this before her is all.
If she hadn't stopped responded to my messages, I would be helping her instead. I wasn't even trying to compete with her (I was just taking a multi-thousand-dollar loss on my own private personal venture into making these cubes), and while I don't think the idea of making tungsten casino dice is patentable, if it were, she wouldn't be able to get a patent because of my prior art being very well known as it's been published (my intent to pursue the idea and samples of my work).
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January 11th, 2013 at 4:21:08 AM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceIf you don't mind me asking... why would you sell this? Especially for just $200 or $250 or whatever? Are you going to make yourself another one?
Yeah, and honestly, I'm not looking forward to the labor. It was damn hard work!!!
I offered to unload the tungsten cubes to the girl with the Kickstarter project, and she just ignored me.
That's a big reason I'm selling this. I initially intended to just help her out and unload my cubes onto her.
It is a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS to import cubes from China. And you have minimum orders of THOUSANDS of dollars. It cost $1000 just for the SHIPPING because of all the hoops you have to go through with import brokers. I learned a lot, but it was NOT FUN and it was NOT SOMETHING I WOULD WISH ON MY WORST ENEMY.
But since she didn't respond, I will let her figure out how to get those cubes and I'm selling mine by myself and not to fulfill the orders she already made commitments to that she currently has no understanding for how to fulfill except to get help. If she only incurs $5,000 or less to create 100 or fewer cubes, I would be impressed.
After the first one, I will undercut her price on the Tungsten cubes and ship them sooner and make the point about how her pip sizes are wrong and so on. I can sell the cubes at a loss if I feel like it just to undercut her and make a point if that's what it comes to.
It would have been easier to just help her, but whatever. It's sort of personal now.
I intentionally chose Tungsten because it was hard to do and unusual. Not because it was easy. The other post with the message board I am sure figured out how hard it is to get custom tungsten cubes. It is no easy task. If you get a custom cube for less than $1000, you are doing great. $250 for a finished one is a steal if you really want one that's not part of a mass production.
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January 11th, 2013 at 4:35:09 AM
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Aaron, I hope you really do not sell the die. If I remember correctly I got to pick it up. You had so many intersting craps related paraphernalia that I can't remember for sure! It will mean more to you than any rich guy who would buy it! Have you considered making gold plated dice? Those you could probably sell at a profit.
January 11th, 2013 at 4:38:24 AM
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Quote: P90The first car is valuable. The first computer. The first cola machine even. But the first tungsten die? Unless the industry as a whole moves to WHA dies, it's going to be like the first bright orange fridge or the first WoO polo shirt.
You could be right. But we may also find that the kickstarter project fails to deliver a single tungsten die.
I might not even make another one. It might not sell this time around.
There are lots of possibilities. Not just the line that you are thinking about.
Currently, I don't think she understands how hard it is to create a tungsten die and will probably run into issues as soon as she does. I know I went through that.
When she asks if I'm still willing to sell my cubes, my answer will be no.
I was willing to sell them to her at a loss before, but not now. It's personal.
But right now, today, the only certainty is that, while this e-bay auction is still live, you can get one and have it shipped TODAY if you have a measly $250. I'm the only person in the world with the ability to sell one today, and that is exactly what I'm offering to do to someone who has $250.
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January 11th, 2013 at 4:46:36 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOAaron, I hope you really do not sell the die. If I remember correctly I got to pick it up. You had so many intersting craps related paraphernalia that I can't remember for sure! It will mean more to you than any rich guy who would buy it! Have you considered making gold plated dice? Those you could probably sell at a profit.
Yes, I think you did pick up the cube!
SOOPOO, I doubt it's worth as much to anyone else. If it sells, it will probably sell to someone who knows me well enough that I won't mind selling it. And in that case, I would happily buy it back for a profit if that person ran into financial trouble.
The point of putting it up for sale is that I am way ahead on this venture to the kickstarter project, and that I was already doing this.
Some people already knew, but I just wanted to bring the subject out into the open and make the point that this was something that I was doing already, just not going full-bore onto kickstarter since I already have a great job. I even told my boss the last time he asked how this was going "I don't have time to do that stuff" and he was happy with that answer.
But all the people at work who have tracked my progress have supported my tungsten die project. It's just been something that I just wrote off as a loss and the box of blank tungsten cubes just sits there.
I appreciate your comments very much though. It would have been much easier to sell the cubes to the girl to help her out. And I will feel like a turd if she just got busy instead of having personal reasons for not responding. But my mind is made up: I'm not selling my cubes to her. I worked too hard to get them!
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January 11th, 2013 at 5:02:36 AM
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Cant the kickstart girl just get tungsten cubes here? Or anyone for that matter? http://www.tungsten-spheres.com/tungsten_spheres.html
January 11th, 2013 at 5:27:53 AM
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Trust me, I know about that site. The short answer is yes if they are in stock.
This works if the sizes they have on hand are okay and they have enough in stock that you need and they are the right polish level.
This place works with large orders too (except excess that they have on hand).
I have at least 10 e-mails back and forth with this guy, including plenty of mis-communication, wrong price info, and other issues.
And *he* speaks english. It gets harder when they only speak Chinese!!
Here's the last e-mail where we couldn't reach an agreement.
This works if the sizes they have on hand are okay and they have enough in stock that you need and they are the right polish level.
This place works with large orders too (except excess that they have on hand).
I have at least 10 e-mails back and forth with this guy, including plenty of mis-communication, wrong price info, and other issues.
And *he* speaks english. It gets harder when they only speak Chinese!!
Here's the last e-mail where we couldn't reach an agreement.
Quote:Joseph,
This error has caused me some grief. I have another quote that you were only slightly less than, and I told the other person who provided me that quote that I had a better price at a lower minimum quantity. The other quote was for $xxx per cube at the same density. Price per Kg is the same on their quote for lower densities. They offered polish finish for $xxx per unit. This was at a quantity not much higher than 100 cubes.
I don't want to waste any more of your time, or cause any more problems for you, but I'm going to continue to pursue the items from this other provider unless they choose not to do business with me as a result of this mishap.
--
- Aaron
From: Joseph Ocampo <jocampo@tungstenheavypowder.com>
To: 'Aaron Hightower' <ahigh@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: 3/4" cubes
Aaron
I need to apologize the quote we sent you earlier was in error. It was my fault, I entered wrong data into my spread sheet. Again I am sorry. The cost of the xxx in balls is $xxx each for quantities of 100 cubes. The minimum order will be for 100 cubes. If you want to proceed please let me know. Lastly we cannot do the polishing for $x per cube. I will need to go out and get a quote for this process before I can price it to you. I am not clear on your specification and would like to know what surface finish you want.
Regretfully,
Joseph
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January 11th, 2013 at 5:43:14 AM
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I see lol, you weren't kidding. I have access to a machinist and a mill, This has got me thinking about making a pair of sterling silver ones.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:48:53 AM
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Quote: rainmanI see lol, you weren't kidding. I have access to a machinist and a mill, This has got me thinking about making a pair of sterling silver ones.
SUPER EASY!!
LOL. But those I would buy from you for a reasonable markup. The raw materials are higher, but the labor is super duper easy.
Go for it.
A lot of people ask why a smart guy like me plays craps.
The short answer, like my quest for the tungsten die, is that I do it not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
I like a challenge! Especially one that someone else has failed to do and I can be the first to succeed at (like the Tungsten die).
My biggest challenges are things I do for my work. But I like tackling really hard problems.
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January 11th, 2013 at 11:43:06 AM
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For all you guys poo-pooing who would want one of these...I'm actually thinking about putting in a bid. It's just too cool to look at for a craps enthusiast! I already have a craps layout watch...
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January 11th, 2013 at 11:57:52 AM
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I contemplated doing the Sterling Silver myself, and I think there is a much larger market for these from Silver Investors.
I also contemplated a solid 24k gold one as well, But I think I calculated the cost at the time between $6,000 and $8,000 for a single cube.
The Silver came out to between $250 and $500 (I think closer to $250) for materials.
The labor is most expensive for Tungsten due to its hardness and high melting temperature.
There are very few lasers that can touch tungsten (something else I determined the hard way).
I don't know of a single one in the United States at the moment, but there are some at the Tungsten producers in China.
Even guys who make laser engravers are unfamiliar with Tungsten. They generally say, "yeah let me try it" then they are all, "nope, not my engraver. Won't touch it!"
The guys who do have access to lasers that work on tungsten all have them set up to etch names in rings and other similar things. And they don't really want to consider a low volume task like mine, and often have their work done in China. (I still don't know of any in the US).
But long story short, it's a very small number of places that can even touch (make a mark reliably) something made out of tungsten. It is generally a diamond or a really rare laser that can affect it. Everything else, no effect!
I also contemplated a solid 24k gold one as well, But I think I calculated the cost at the time between $6,000 and $8,000 for a single cube.
The Silver came out to between $250 and $500 (I think closer to $250) for materials.
The labor is most expensive for Tungsten due to its hardness and high melting temperature.
There are very few lasers that can touch tungsten (something else I determined the hard way).
I don't know of a single one in the United States at the moment, but there are some at the Tungsten producers in China.
Even guys who make laser engravers are unfamiliar with Tungsten. They generally say, "yeah let me try it" then they are all, "nope, not my engraver. Won't touch it!"
The guys who do have access to lasers that work on tungsten all have them set up to etch names in rings and other similar things. And they don't really want to consider a low volume task like mine, and often have their work done in China. (I still don't know of any in the US).
But long story short, it's a very small number of places that can even touch (make a mark reliably) something made out of tungsten. It is generally a diamond or a really rare laser that can affect it. Everything else, no effect!
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January 11th, 2013 at 12:00:22 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsFor all you guys poo-pooing who would want one of these...I'm actually thinking about putting in a bid. It's just too cool to look at for a craps enthusiast! I already have a craps layout watch...
Oh, I can see how craps enthusiasts, and others, would want one. it would be a nice paper weight, for example, or a desk ornament (which means pretty much the same thing).
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January 11th, 2013 at 12:17:23 PM
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Quote: AhighHey, ya know, whatever! That is my price. $250 is absolutely NOTHING for the first engraved tungsten die.
I have all the evidence that I need to prove that it is the first.
Don't doubt that it has that or greater worth to you.
Just pointed out that the added value of being the first ever is rather small for novelty objects like this.
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January 11th, 2013 at 1:31:46 PM
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Well at least hitting the stack of dealer chips won't affect the outcome. :)
January 11th, 2013 at 2:01:49 PM
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I may do some slow motion videos of one of my tungsten cubes damaging and/or destroying stuff. These things are WEAPONS for sure.
In fact, they are used in making military strength bombs as the projectiles that are emitted to rip things into pieces.
In fact, they are used in making military strength bombs as the projectiles that are emitted to rip things into pieces.
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January 11th, 2013 at 2:05:17 PM
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Quote: AhighI may do some slow motion videos of one of my tungsten cubes damaging and/or destroying stuff. These things are WEAPONS for sure.
In fact, they are used in making military strength bombs as the projectiles that are emitted to rip things into pieces.
What do you think would happen if ammo was made from this stuff?
