Valentine's Day
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February 13th, 2012 at 12:01:05 PM
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Is it just me or do any of the other men on the forum hate Valentine's Day?
My first reason for hating it is that it is just about the worst day of the year to take a sweetheart to a nice restaurant or show. You'll be competing with millions of other couples. Assuming you were smart enough to get a reservation you'll still likely be faced with a long wait, rushed service, and a generally stressful experience. In my opinion, restaurants always overbook on Valentine's Day and even those with reservations have to wait about half an hour for a table to open up.
More importantly, Valentine's Day comes off as a test to most men. It is a test we're expected to get an A+ on, and anything less will be points we lose. There is no upside to the day, it is just something to hopefully survive.
It all starts with the card, which will be carefully analyzed for its message. In my experience it isn't satisfactory to just choose and buy a card but some personal sentiment must be added as well. My idea of good poetry begins with "There was an old man from Nantucket." My sense of romance has not evolved one bit since the caveman who showed his affection by ambushing a zebra at the watering hole and bringing his sweetheart the dead body to extract the meat from and to cook herself over the campfire.
Furthermore, I lose points either way. If I spend money on flowers or candy them I am wasting money. If I don't, then I get "Can't you at least get flowers or chocolate like other men?" Some other gift idea won't work out either. I must be terrible at choosing gifts because anything I get for my wife sits in the closet, untouched, gathering dust.
I especially feel badly for the men who are in a new relationship on Valentine's Day. The only bigger day as a relationship killer is the woman's birthday. I think if a couple has dated for less than three months then the guy should be given a get out of Valentine's Day free card.
I hear that Valentine's Day is starting to spread to other countries. To the non-American men out there, although I had nothing to do with it, I apologize anyway. Truly a dreadful American export.
So, the question for the men on the forum out there is how do you feel about it?
My first reason for hating it is that it is just about the worst day of the year to take a sweetheart to a nice restaurant or show. You'll be competing with millions of other couples. Assuming you were smart enough to get a reservation you'll still likely be faced with a long wait, rushed service, and a generally stressful experience. In my opinion, restaurants always overbook on Valentine's Day and even those with reservations have to wait about half an hour for a table to open up.
More importantly, Valentine's Day comes off as a test to most men. It is a test we're expected to get an A+ on, and anything less will be points we lose. There is no upside to the day, it is just something to hopefully survive.
It all starts with the card, which will be carefully analyzed for its message. In my experience it isn't satisfactory to just choose and buy a card but some personal sentiment must be added as well. My idea of good poetry begins with "There was an old man from Nantucket." My sense of romance has not evolved one bit since the caveman who showed his affection by ambushing a zebra at the watering hole and bringing his sweetheart the dead body to extract the meat from and to cook herself over the campfire.
Furthermore, I lose points either way. If I spend money on flowers or candy them I am wasting money. If I don't, then I get "Can't you at least get flowers or chocolate like other men?" Some other gift idea won't work out either. I must be terrible at choosing gifts because anything I get for my wife sits in the closet, untouched, gathering dust.
I especially feel badly for the men who are in a new relationship on Valentine's Day. The only bigger day as a relationship killer is the woman's birthday. I think if a couple has dated for less than three months then the guy should be given a get out of Valentine's Day free card.
I hear that Valentine's Day is starting to spread to other countries. To the non-American men out there, although I had nothing to do with it, I apologize anyway. Truly a dreadful American export.
So, the question for the men on the forum out there is how do you feel about it?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 13th, 2012 at 12:06:00 PM
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We go out for a nice dinner, and that's about it.
February 13th, 2012 at 12:10:22 PM
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Quote: WizardMore importantly, Valentine's Day comes off as a test to most men. It is a test we're expected to get an A+ on, and anything less will be points we lose. There is no upside to the day, it is just something to hopefully survive.
I listen to the Adam Carolla podcast religiously, and he offers a sentiment very similar to yours above. His analogy is that Valentine's Day is like a sobriety checkpoint: the worst case scenario is that you go to jail with a DUI. The best case scenario is that you go on with your day but gained nothing, and wasted time. There's no upside and only downside.
I tend to agree that it's lame, and I also don't have a big romantic side. I started dating a new girl last summer (June) and lucked out in that we started dating right after her birthday, so I get a whole 12 months to prepare for that one. She told me straight-up that she just wants some candy/flowers for Valentine's day and she'll be happy. We even agreed not to go out, since it's a giant cluster just like you said. Hopefully between candy, flowers, and a card, she'll be happy. I'm pretty sure she will be. Also, she is pretty awesome in general :).
In case any of you guys out there missed it, March 14th has been christened Steak and BJ day. I would explain it more, but....that's pretty much it. See if you can get your SO to join in next month.
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February 13th, 2012 at 12:17:39 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsShe told me straight-up that she just wants some candy/flowers for Valentine's day and she'll be happy. We even agreed not to go out, since it's a giant cluster just like you said. Hopefully between candy, flowers, and a card, she'll be happy. I'm pretty sure she will be. Also, she is pretty awesome in general :).
Sounds like a great gal. Too bad more weren't made from her mold.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 13th, 2012 at 12:30:37 PM
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My wife and I started "dating" on President's Day, so we just celebrate that. Since Valentine's Day is usually a couple of days before, we go out sometime the weekend after Valentine's Day for a combination. As for Valentine's Day itself, she gets a card.
February 13th, 2012 at 12:34:37 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEights
In case any of you guys out there missed it, March 14th has been christened Steak and BJ day. I would explain it more, but....that's pretty much it. See if you can get your SO to join in next month.
I thought you were just kidding, but
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=March%2014th And it's not blackjack, but a BJ it seems
As far as prospects for me to spring this on the wife to get even, I am reminded of a cartoon where you see a wedding couple and there is that balloon over the groom that says one thing and a balloon over the bride that says another:
Quote: DIRTY JOKE ALERT - NOT SAFE FOR WORK - Highlight With Mouse To RevealHey, I've gotten in trouble once already.
The balloon over the groom has him thinking to himself, "how lucky I am to marry a woman who gives great blowjobs!"
The balloon over her has her thinking "how lucky I am! I have given my last blowjob ever!"
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell! She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
February 13th, 2012 at 12:41:11 PM
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Hmmm.... It seems that the implication is that if you somehow manage to pass the test on 2/14, you have to wait a WHOLE MONTH for the reward.Quote: AcesAndEightsIn case any of you guys out there missed it, March 14th has been christened Steak and BJ day.
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February 13th, 2012 at 1:07:57 PM
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Quote: WizardIs it just me or do any of the other men on the forum hate Valentine's Day? So, the question for the men on the forum out there is how do you feel
about it?
You need to put the whole thing in context.
We, The People, have constructed elaborate hoaxes, for no good reason, really, based on myth and deception.
Consider Christmas and Easter: one involves an elaborate charade about a generous fat elf, the other some nonsense about a rabbit delivering eggs to kids.
Complete bullshit, and yet ... and yet ...
It is rooted into our culture, just hard-wired there.
So yeah, if we choose to mythologize elves and hares, why should we treat love any differently?
"What, me worry?"
February 13th, 2012 at 1:14:02 PM
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My wife and I decided decades ago to ignore
Valentines Day. We both dislike giving things
because we have to, and it really is a silly
'holiday'. Its great for young kids, but dumb
for adults. Its so forced.
(In the poll I voted for "I'm Jerry Logan and Women Think I'm Gay")
Valentines Day. We both dislike giving things
because we have to, and it really is a silly
'holiday'. Its great for young kids, but dumb
for adults. Its so forced.
(In the poll I voted for "I'm Jerry Logan and Women Think I'm Gay")
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February 13th, 2012 at 1:14:55 PM
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Hang in there Wiz eventually the day won't be important. My wife and I don't do anything for Valentine's anymore although we used to usually go for dinner, flowers etc. Not important anymore. In fact I thought I might be in trouble in January on our anniversary (43 years) and realized I forgot to get a card. We were on a 4 day mini-break at a casino, no problem though as my wife had forgotten to get one also, we did go out for a nice dinner that night. As a humurous side note about our anniversary several years ago my wife and I unknowingly bought each other the same anniversary card.
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
February 13th, 2012 at 1:22:32 PM
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Quote: kenarmanHang in there Wiz eventually the day won't be important. .
Exactly. We remember our anniversary about every
3 years. Who cares.
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February 13th, 2012 at 1:23:16 PM
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Isn't that the proverbial "No win" scenario?Quote: WizardFurthermore, I lose points either way. If I spend money on flowers or candy them I am wasting money. If I don't, then I get "Can't you at least get flowers or chocolate like other men?"
How does that fit in with your signature line?
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February 13th, 2012 at 1:41:01 PM
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The best thing to do is break up with girls in early November and get a new one in March.
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
February 13th, 2012 at 1:58:00 PM
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The fact is (and it is a fact) men are more romantic and
affectionate than women. Men make better poets, better
chefs, better artists, and better screen writers than women.
They have more passion. Many women find romance and
passion dumb. But the culture has it backwards. This is
because men writers for generations have created women
characters in books and movies as being the passionate
gender, when the opposite is true. It was a real letdown
for me to discover that all the fantastic women I'd read
about in fiction in my youth, didn't really exist. Women seem
to play at romance, I don't know how much of it they
actually feel. They're far too practical to let themselves get
carried away like men do.
affectionate than women. Men make better poets, better
chefs, better artists, and better screen writers than women.
They have more passion. Many women find romance and
passion dumb. But the culture has it backwards. This is
because men writers for generations have created women
characters in books and movies as being the passionate
gender, when the opposite is true. It was a real letdown
for me to discover that all the fantastic women I'd read
about in fiction in my youth, didn't really exist. Women seem
to play at romance, I don't know how much of it they
actually feel. They're far too practical to let themselves get
carried away like men do.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 13th, 2012 at 1:59:34 PM
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I have been happily married to the same woman for many years. My wife and I do not fall for the unethical marketing scams and ripoffs perpetrated by retailers and restaurants who raise their prices on this "special" day. It reminds me of other places that do everything they can to separate the public from their money.
What matters is how you treat each other for the rest of the year. We may dine out for Valentine's Day but it will be on our terms and it will not be on Feb. 14th.
What matters is how you treat each other for the rest of the year. We may dine out for Valentine's Day but it will be on our terms and it will not be on Feb. 14th.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
February 13th, 2012 at 2:19:12 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitAnd it's not blackjack, but a BJ it seems
I totally failed to realize that BJ usually means blackjack around here. I'll try to be more specific in the future :-D.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
February 13th, 2012 at 2:45:41 PM
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Quote: Wizard
Assuming you were smart enough to get a reservation you'll still likely be faced with a long wait, rushed service, and a generally stressful experience.
Gotta pick a good place, and make reservations for some time before 8:00pm. We went on our V day date on Saturday night (apparently 25% of couples did too nationwide in a recent poll).
Wow. Guess it depends on the woman. It was fun, saw a movie, had dinner, had apps at a bar before dinner. Enjoyed each other's company. Headed home. No shows this year. Overall, fantastic night.Quote:More importantly, Valentine's Day comes off as a test to most men. It is a test we're expected to get an A+ on, and anything less will be points we lose. There is no upside to the day, it is just something to hopefully survive.
Quote:It all starts with the card, which will be carefully analyzed for its message.
Depends on the girl. But yes, most women do analyze "the card'. Just get something that is "you", and you should be fine.
Quote:I especially feel badly for the men who are in a new relationship on Valentine's Day. The only bigger day as a relationship killer is the woman's birthday. I think if a couple has dated for less than three months then the guy should be given a get out of Valentine's Day free card.
I agree!
February 13th, 2012 at 2:57:48 PM
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Quote: WizardIt all starts with the card, which will be carefully analyzed for its message.
This is very true and has always bothered me.
It shows that women aren't really interested
in the spirit of the holiday, they're looking for
validation instead. The fact that you know you
can screw it up and get into trouble, when you
actually went out of your way get it right, tells
you how ridiculous the 'holiday' is.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 13th, 2012 at 4:14:09 PM
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All you guys crack me up. If your woman expects flowers and candy Feb. 14, and you'll get in trouble if you don't give it to her, then you're dating the wrong woman, and you're a pantywaste for allowing her to have that control over you. You've fallen into the trap invented by FTD and Hallmark. Valentine's Day should be for lovers, NOT just for the woman only. Are YOU mad if she doesn't get YOU flowers? or a BJ? or whatever? Flowers can be given any day of the year, and they're cheaper the other 364 days anyway, and you'll get more wifey-points if you give flowers in August rather than the one single day that the media tells you to. Man up.
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February 13th, 2012 at 4:23:32 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsShe told me straight-up that she just wants some candy/flowers for Valentine's day and she'll be happy. We even agreed not to go out, since it's a giant cluster just like you said. Hopefully between candy, flowers, and a card, she'll be happy. I'm pretty sure she will be. Also, she is pretty awesome in general :).
Get her a present anyway. Maybe not something expensive like jewlery, but get her something. A scarf, for instance, or a book she may like, or a CD. Something. There are two reasons for this: 1) She will know you care about her more than just some flowers, candy and a card, 2) the best time to get a rpesent is when you're not expecting one.
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February 13th, 2012 at 4:40:08 PM
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Quote: zippyboyAll you guys crack me up. If your woman expects flowers and candy Feb. 14, and you'll get in trouble if you don't give it to her, then you're dating the wrong woman, and you're a pantywaste for allowing her to have that control over you. You've fallen into the trap invented by FTD and Hallmark. Valentine's Day should be for lovers, NOT just for the woman only. Are YOU mad if she doesn't get YOU flowers? or a BJ? or whatever? Flowers can be given any day of the year, and they're cheaper the other 364 days anyway, and you'll get more wifey-points if you give flowers in August rather than the one single day that the media tells you to. Man up.
+1!
February 13th, 2012 at 5:12:03 PM
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I go by a simple rule for a wide variety of situations, "Something is always better than nothing"
I grew up in a house hearing about hallmark holidays and don't like any of them. Since I have to live with it, and know I will be happier if I can make her happy.
So today while out running errands I picked up a mini-rose pot thing at safeway for $12, and tomorrow i am going to deliver it to her at work during the day. Pretty sure this will go over well, because the potted roses should last a long time, and will remind her of me bringing them to her.
Instead of considering the monies spent on gifts for that day to be a waste, take the angle that it is one day you CAN buy happiness.
Most women in my experience just want to see thought/effort on your part. Just have to try.
I grew up in a house hearing about hallmark holidays and don't like any of them. Since I have to live with it, and know I will be happier if I can make her happy.
So today while out running errands I picked up a mini-rose pot thing at safeway for $12, and tomorrow i am going to deliver it to her at work during the day. Pretty sure this will go over well, because the potted roses should last a long time, and will remind her of me bringing them to her.
Instead of considering the monies spent on gifts for that day to be a waste, take the angle that it is one day you CAN buy happiness.
Most women in my experience just want to see thought/effort on your part. Just have to try.
February 13th, 2012 at 7:33:07 PM
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Quote: shupe03a4Most women in my experience just want to see thought/effort on your part. Just have to try.
For the past Valentine's Days when I was dating, I found a somewhat simple solution. Cook dinner.
You avoid the hassles of going out (reservations, waiting, sloppy service, etc.). You get bonus points for trying something. And you don't even have to be good at it. The woman usually respects the effort you put into it. You can make something as simple as spaghetti and get points. After dinner, wash the dishes. (Or, I guess, put them in the dishwasher. I'm not a fan of dishwashers myself.) Anyway, this is all very simple, and usually works. You don't have to get flowers, or chocolates, or a gift.
Of course, this all assumes you don't cook on a normal basis anyway.
February 13th, 2012 at 9:39:31 PM
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Between our meeting anniversary (January), valentine's day (February), our real wedding anniversary (April), Mother's day (May), our fake anniversary (June, which we ignore except to acknowledge it with the people who think it's real), father's day (June), two birthdays (August and September), and Christmas, our celebration calendar is absolutely full.
For Valentine's day this year, we will keep things very low key. Flowers are bought (the same bunch every year), chocolates are procured (my wife buys them for me), and cards are exchanged. Because my child is with me, we're just going to pick up dinner and we're going to see a movie that's been out for a while so it won't be crazy crowded. We'll drink some wine, and the chores will wait until the morning. Flowers are bought the night before so that they're there in the morning.
Going out on Valentine's day is a miss unless you plan it well in advance. My advice -- go for an early dinner -- the wait staff get surly after 8pm. Better yet, cook at home. If you need to go out, find a movie that has been out for awhile so that it isn't packed.
Last year, we ended up out for a very late dinner (we had just come home from being on the road for four months) and then went to the casino where we won our dinner back. The dinner was awful -- the waitress was downright dreadful and the food was a miss, that we had to make it up at the casino.
My wife is special, and we like to do things for each other. So yeah, despite the commercialism, we celebrate the day nonetheless. My wife's expectations for the day are very low, and we've made it clear that the day isn't in one direction... she's gotta put out if I'm going to put out.
As for the Wizard's OP, if you feel that your wife is analyzing every word, then you aren't doing enough for her or at least you feel that you aren't doing enough for her. You make a good living, so do the minimum, don't be such a practical bugger, and waste the money, but I would "demand" some reprocitiy. Love is a two way street.
For Valentine's day this year, we will keep things very low key. Flowers are bought (the same bunch every year), chocolates are procured (my wife buys them for me), and cards are exchanged. Because my child is with me, we're just going to pick up dinner and we're going to see a movie that's been out for a while so it won't be crazy crowded. We'll drink some wine, and the chores will wait until the morning. Flowers are bought the night before so that they're there in the morning.
Going out on Valentine's day is a miss unless you plan it well in advance. My advice -- go for an early dinner -- the wait staff get surly after 8pm. Better yet, cook at home. If you need to go out, find a movie that has been out for awhile so that it isn't packed.
Last year, we ended up out for a very late dinner (we had just come home from being on the road for four months) and then went to the casino where we won our dinner back. The dinner was awful -- the waitress was downright dreadful and the food was a miss, that we had to make it up at the casino.
My wife is special, and we like to do things for each other. So yeah, despite the commercialism, we celebrate the day nonetheless. My wife's expectations for the day are very low, and we've made it clear that the day isn't in one direction... she's gotta put out if I'm going to put out.
As for the Wizard's OP, if you feel that your wife is analyzing every word, then you aren't doing enough for her or at least you feel that you aren't doing enough for her. You make a good living, so do the minimum, don't be such a practical bugger, and waste the money, but I would "demand" some reprocitiy. Love is a two way street.
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February 13th, 2012 at 10:01:02 PM
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Hmmm... I should be lucky that I am not in any relationship at the moment. I probably have had only one good Valentine's Day from a few years back. Other than that, I am mostly just spending Valentine's Day by myself, and tomorrow is no different.
Always look for opportunities.
February 13th, 2012 at 10:07:14 PM
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Quote: MikeVI am mostly just spending Valentine's Day by myself, and tomorrow is no different.
As somebody noted already, the best day to start a relationship is right after Valentine's Day.
I wish all the men of the forum, including myself, success in surviving the day tomorrow. The idea of making dinner was a good one. Too bad I only know how to make chili. Perhaps the recipe thread will be of some help.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 13th, 2012 at 10:14:05 PM
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I get EVERY SINGLE ONE of my recipes off of allrecipes.com. Anything at 4.5 stars is fantastic, and at 4 stars is pretty good. If you know how to make chili, then you know how to open a can, cut up vegetables, cook meat, and season. What else is there to know??? Branch out and explore. Your wife and children will be amazed!!!
Also, a great book for cooking, is the New Basics cookbook. Great recipes, and it tells you how to buy and what to look for in food. Invaluable.
Also, a great book for cooking, is the New Basics cookbook. Great recipes, and it tells you how to buy and what to look for in food. Invaluable.
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February 13th, 2012 at 10:19:52 PM
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I relented and sent my wife an ecard with a pic of my dog when he was a
puppy. They only had one with to 'my sister' on it, we'll see how that turns
out.
puppy. They only had one with to 'my sister' on it, we'll see how that turns
out.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 13th, 2012 at 11:53:25 PM
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Quote: shupe03a4i am going to deliver it to her at work
I have it confirmed that women like more the attention they get from this than any other part of it, and that this reason is 99% of liking the delivery to work thing.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell! She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
February 14th, 2012 at 12:09:06 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitI have it confirmed that women like more the attention they get from this than any other part of it, and that this reason is 99% of liking the delivery to work thing.
Yeah, duh.. Women live for how OTHER WOMEN think about
how great their relationship is. It can be a total lie, but if it
looks good in front of their friends and co-workers, thats all
they care about.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 14th, 2012 at 4:02:44 AM
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Its the day private detectives are most in demand for filming spouses sneaking out to be with those they really love, so if your marriage is so secure that you are not being filmed then you are safe and need not worry about the downside.
Chocolate is dandy, liquor is quicker. Yet chocolate is "food of the Gods" for a reason.
I'm told the giving of Chocolate on Valentines day originated with the man who introduced the 6/59 lottery to France ... so blame him.
Flowers fade, chocolate can go uneated... but its safer to have them than not have them.
Your choice of a restaurant may be insufficiently romantic but remind her that staying home and doing the dishes is even less romantic.
Good luck.
Chocolate is dandy, liquor is quicker. Yet chocolate is "food of the Gods" for a reason.
I'm told the giving of Chocolate on Valentines day originated with the man who introduced the 6/59 lottery to France ... so blame him.
Flowers fade, chocolate can go uneated... but its safer to have them than not have them.
Your choice of a restaurant may be insufficiently romantic but remind her that staying home and doing the dishes is even less romantic.
Good luck.
February 14th, 2012 at 5:22:49 AM
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There are a few great monitoring products out there (keyloggers under c-net.com) so you don't have to pay for your own PI services ;)
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February 14th, 2012 at 5:34:04 AM
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Quote: WizardAs somebody noted already, the best day to start a relationship is right after Valentine's Day.
I wish all the men of the forum, including myself, success in surviving the day tomorrow. The idea of making dinner was a good one. Too bad I only know how to make chili. Perhaps the recipe thread will be of some help.
Mike I have some really good recipes, but they are not kid friendly food (which is what I was trying to do that time I made your family dinner).
February 14th, 2012 at 8:14:44 AM
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I recommend giving Easter candy and a jar of hammers. xkcd's Valentine Dilemma
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February 14th, 2012 at 8:28:36 AM
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Things are off to a bad start. Here was the conversation just after I arrived in the kitchen:
Wizard: Happy Valentine's Day.
Mrs. Wizard: Why didn't you say 'happy'?
Wizard: I did.
Mrs. Wizard: I didn't hear it.
Wizard: Perhaps I didn't say it loudly enough.
Mrs. Wizard: Any gift for me?
Wizard: Nope.
Mrs. Wizard: As usual.
Wizard: You can buy yourself a gift any time.
Mrs. Wizard: It isn't the same.
Wizard: Happy Valentine's Day.
Mrs. Wizard: Why didn't you say 'happy'?
Wizard: I did.
Mrs. Wizard: I didn't hear it.
Wizard: Perhaps I didn't say it loudly enough.
Mrs. Wizard: Any gift for me?
Wizard: Nope.
Mrs. Wizard: As usual.
Wizard: You can buy yourself a gift any time.
Mrs. Wizard: It isn't the same.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 14th, 2012 at 8:33:37 AM
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Quote: WizardThings are off to a bad start. Here was the conversation just after I arrived in the kitchen:
Wizard: Happy Valentine's Day.
Mrs. Wizard: Why didn't you say 'happy'?
Wizard: I did.
Mrs. Wizard: I didn't hear it.
Wizard: Perhaps I didn't say it loudly enough.
Mrs. Wizard: Any gift for me?
Wizard: Nope.
Mrs. Wizard: As usual.
Wizard: You can buy yourself a gift any time.
Mrs. Wizard: It isn't the same.
haha sorry wiz, don't mean to laugh at your expense, but I am just reading this as a typical, dry morning conversation while preparing to make a cup of coffee. It just so happens that today is valentines day, and as you said, it appears you are off to a bad start.
Good luck with the rest of the day! Fortunately here on the east coast it is already 11:33 AM, so there's only 12.5 hours left :-P
February 14th, 2012 at 8:58:54 AM
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Quote: WizardThings are off to a bad start. Here was the conversation just after I arrived in the kitchen:
Wizard: Happy Valentine's Day.
Mrs. Wizard: Why didn't you say 'happy'?
Wizard: I did.
Mrs. Wizard: I didn't hear it.
Wizard: Perhaps I didn't say it loudly enough.
Mrs. Wizard: Any gift for me?
Wizard: Nope.
Mrs. Wizard: As usual.
Wizard: You can buy yourself a gift any time.
Mrs. Wizard: It isn't the same.
OUCH!
My wife woke up in a good mood as she got her flowers last night. She just said, "Flowers are very pretty, babe". A little effort goes a long way, Wizard. $30 on some roses is a good bet.
On the other hand, your wife knows that you are a very pragmatic person. She's been married to you for a long time. You should have replied to Mrs. Wizard, "any gift for me?"
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February 14th, 2012 at 9:00:21 AM
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It's on this day that I'm reminded that relationships are a lot like poker.
It all starts with a couple of hearts and a big diamond.
Eventually, you're looking for a club and a spade.
It all starts with a couple of hearts and a big diamond.
Eventually, you're looking for a club and a spade.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
February 14th, 2012 at 9:02:40 AM
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Quote: EvenBobWomen live for how OTHER WOMEN think about
how great their relationship is. It can be a total lie, but if it
looks good in front of their friends and co-workers, thats all
they care about.
Keep in mind that women dress, make up and accessorize not for men, but for women.
"What, me worry?"
February 14th, 2012 at 9:05:25 AM
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Quote: boymimboYou should have replied to Mrs. Wizard, "any gift for me?"
I wouldn't dare. My wife is firmly of the opinion that what Super Bowl Sunday is to men Valentine's Day is to women. It is a day when the the world revolves around women, and the men are the ones who are supposed to push it.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 14th, 2012 at 9:48:22 AM
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What does she think about Steak & BJ Day?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
February 14th, 2012 at 11:30:16 AM
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From a woman's standpoint. My Mom's actually.Quote: WizardIs it just me or do any of the other men on the forum hate Valentine's Day?
Some men are very fortunate to have a man that tells them nice things every or almost every day.
"Thanks honey" or even "I Love You"
Those women are in the minority, sad to say.
For those men that come up short all year
Try on Valentine's Day, it does not take waiting in line at a restaurant, or a flower shop or candy store or spending any money
just to give that hug and say
"Thanks honey" or even "I Love You"
It does make up for all those days and more!
Happy Valentine's Day!
(BTW, "Something" by George Harrison is one of the most beautiful love songs ever written IMO, but he never mentions "I Love You" in it as did so many other Beatle songs)
I Heart Vi Hart
February 14th, 2012 at 12:03:47 PM
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Quote: mustangsallyTry on Valentine's Day, it does not take waiting in line at a restaurant, or a flower shop or candy store or spending any money
just to give that hug and say
"Thanks honey" or even "I Love You"
It does make up for all those days and more!
Thanks for the advice. However, I think I can count myself in the majority of men that have difficulty with compliments or certain affectionate verbal expressions.
Looking at it from a cost/benefit point of view, how many husbanding/boyfriend points do we earn for each of the following?
1. Dinner a restaurant with long wait and lousy service.
2. Flowers
3. Candy
4. Other gift of cost $x.
5. "Thanks honey"
6. "I love you"
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 14th, 2012 at 12:33:27 PM
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Point wise, I say...Quote: WizardThanks for the advice. However, I think I can count myself in the majority of men that have difficulty with compliments or certain affectionate verbal expressions.
So, then how about just a simple hug.
It will do wonders.
Just out of the blue. Try it.
Even a simple kiss on the cheek.
Dare you try a hug and a kiss on the cheek. XOXOXO
I like the hugs and kisses the best and think all women also do. The most points.
No words needed.
No candy
No dinner
No gifts.
Sure they are nice but they do not even come close to points given for hugs and kisses
XOXOXO
added: see guys, it really is that simple!
added again: Mike, you handsome , shy types are what most women want.
It is the biggest and longest lasting turn-on.
Remember Sally from the movie and the line that followed
"I'll have what she's having."
I'm not kidding.
You are so lucky to have a beautiful wife and 3 beautiful kids. Great job!
I Heart Vi Hart
February 14th, 2012 at 12:50:08 PM
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Many (most?) women don't pay enough attention to their husbands.
When Dr Laura said on the radio that most divorces are the wife's
fault, women went crazy. She said most women don't treat their
husband as well as the guy who bags her groceries or the mailman.
All men want is a little attention and if they don't get it at home,
they're not happy and often look for it elsewhere. Most just live
with it and accept that being unhappy is the natural state of marriage.
When Dr Laura said on the radio that most divorces are the wife's
fault, women went crazy. She said most women don't treat their
husband as well as the guy who bags her groceries or the mailman.
All men want is a little attention and if they don't get it at home,
they're not happy and often look for it elsewhere. Most just live
with it and accept that being unhappy is the natural state of marriage.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 14th, 2012 at 12:58:01 PM
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Yes I agree, but with FREE hugs and kisses, how can there ever be a problem?Quote: EvenBobAll men want is a little attention and if they don't get it at home,
they're not happy and often look for it elsewhere. Most just live
with it and accept that being unhappy is the natural state of marriage.
It costs no money, takes little time and the dividends from that is more valuable than Apple, Google and Microsoft combined.
"The tooth paste cap was not put back on!"
XOXOXO
I Heart Vi Hart
February 14th, 2012 at 1:07:37 PM
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My opinion is that Mr. Wiz should have spent the $5 for a little box of chocolate at CVS, at least that is something. I am upset right now because my spouse is ditching me today to pick up an extra shift when he had the option to go in at 8pm when I would be working also.
February 14th, 2012 at 1:16:22 PM
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Mike, geez, your byline says "it's whether or not you had a good bet". You gotta make some investments on your wife.
Points ranking 1 - 10:
1. Dinner at Restaurant with long wait and lousy service 8 - .1m - (5-sq/2) where m is the minutes in waiting and sq is the service quality from 0 to 10.
2. Flowers: 7 (assuming $50)
3. Candy: 3 (assuming $20)
4. Other gift of cost $x: .07x or 10 if x is over 142.
5. Thanks honey: 1
6. I love you: 3 + w (where w is the number of weeks since the last time you told her that).
7. Valentine's day card: 3 + .6(q-5) where q is the quality of the message you personally write between 0 and 10.
Max points:
1. Dinner at restaurant, m = 0, sq = 10 (key -- make reservations long in advance for an early dinner) - 8
2. Flowers - 7
3. Candy - 3
4. Gift of $140 dollars - 10
5. Thanks honey - 1
6. I love you - 3
7. Valentine's day card, very well worded by research: 6.
Total points: 38.
You can bank those points all the way to Mother's day :)
Points ranking 1 - 10:
1. Dinner at Restaurant with long wait and lousy service 8 - .1m - (5-sq/2) where m is the minutes in waiting and sq is the service quality from 0 to 10.
2. Flowers: 7 (assuming $50)
3. Candy: 3 (assuming $20)
4. Other gift of cost $x: .07x or 10 if x is over 142.
5. Thanks honey: 1
6. I love you: 3 + w (where w is the number of weeks since the last time you told her that).
7. Valentine's day card: 3 + .6(q-5) where q is the quality of the message you personally write between 0 and 10.
Max points:
1. Dinner at restaurant, m = 0, sq = 10 (key -- make reservations long in advance for an early dinner) - 8
2. Flowers - 7
3. Candy - 3
4. Gift of $140 dollars - 10
5. Thanks honey - 1
6. I love you - 3
7. Valentine's day card, very well worded by research: 6.
Total points: 38.
You can bank those points all the way to Mother's day :)
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February 14th, 2012 at 1:32:09 PM
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Quote: boymimbo
Total points: 38.
"A strange game.
The only winning move is not to play."
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
