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AZDuffman
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:03:31 AM permalink
Quote: aahigh

My biggest pet peeve is people or dealers that think they know more about the game than you. Last time I shot, I rolled a hard 6, then asked for a dollar hard six. The dealer says "you're supposed to bet before you make the roll. The dice have no memory, you know." And I said, "you're right but it works both ways." Then I rolled another hard 6.

That same dealer always tries to tell me how to bet. Another time, I took $50 odds down from a four point and put them on the field and he started to tell me how stupid it was, and it came up triple.

I always play the game for entertainment not to make money. Sometimes players come in making large bets and tell me that I'm not betting enough money. That pisses me off too. Especially when I know that have absolutely no idea about me or why I even play.



Sounds like two dealers that management needs to explain the concept of "never get in the way of a high house edge bet."

Last night the party was quiet so I got to teach a newbie how to play. And I had a fairly experienced guy there who helped me out as a sort of student-aide. I got to explain about when the dealer really is helping the player and how dealer-talk is almost like booking an order on the floor of the NYSE. "Hard 4, my 4th, action not working" seems as confusing as "Steel is .70 to .75 2000 up what do you want to do?" to the outsider.
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Ayecarumba
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:38:21 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I never get angry when people seven-out. How the hell is it their fault? What if I had stuck out my hand, and the dice had hit the point? Would you give me a tip?



Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...
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mkl654321
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:48:26 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...



Obviously, the dice hitting a late-betting twit's hands is just another randomizing element, and has no real effect on the outcome. Just as obviously, a shooter is more likely to seven-out than to make his point on any given roll, interference from hands or not.

That said, most if not all shooters don't appreciate "assistance".
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Doc
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:52:23 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Funny how I can't recall one instance of the dice hitting a late or ignorant bettor's hands and coming up with the point, but there are many, many times it has come up cinco-dos, adios...

I confess I do recall one such incident. The table wasn't being run all that well, and the dice were sent out while both a player and the base dealer at the other end were pushing chips around. I think the dice may have hit multiple hands before coming to rest showing the point. I shook my head and mumbled something on the order of, "Keep those hands low." I glanced around, seeing several other players smiling that they recognized the mangled instruction and saw the humor. We likely would not have been in such forgiving moods if the result had been the more-familiar kind.
ChampagneFireball
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January 20th, 2011 at 11:33:23 AM permalink
My biggest craps pet peeve is when the dealers push the action so fast that you cannot even get a bet out. There's several tribal casinos around that I won't play at because they do this every time. They have even done it with me when I was the only one at the table and started complaining that I wasn't betting fast enough. So I left. Made no sense to me.

Craps is supposed to be fun. If I have a three second window to throw a bet in, it ain't fun.

Second pet peeve would be high limits.
Martin
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:28:32 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

Have to disagree with you there. Maybe that's why you would switch but I bet 95% of don't bettors who switch to pass when they shoot are in essence saying "screw you goofballs and everybody else, now watch how it's done."



There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.
DJTeddyBear
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:36:52 PM permalink
Quote: Martin

There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.

Hmmm....

Does that mean that if you see another Don't better, shooting from the Pass, that you'll bet the Pass when he's shooting?
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clarkacal
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:42:57 PM permalink
Quote: Martin

There isn't a "don't" bettor in the world (my self included) who doesn't think he shoots better than the do'ers.



And that's why you bug us :-P

Another pet peeve I forgot to mention is don't bettors who bet the don't, shoot, make the point, and then pass the dice. I've been playing at a table by myself many times and a guy with a permanent frown positions himself at the other end and bets against me. When I seven out he elects to pass the dice back to me and I say "you have to shoot". Reluctantly he shoots and when he happens to make a point he violently waves his hand and shouts "pass the dice!" Oh no he didn't try that! I say, "I pass back to you, it's still your shot!" This usually results in an awkward standoff for a little while, and ends with him wandering off grumbling to himself.
dwheatley
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:53:11 PM permalink
You guys are reading way too much into a don't better switching to do when shooting. I do this sometimes, and it's because I like to shoot. I bet the don't most of the time because I like the way I lose slowly and win big with DCs when the 7 hits.

But when I'm shooting, if I go on a roll, I don't want to be knocking down my own points! If I get on a heater, I want to be betting the right way. If I could keep shooting every time I rolled a 7 to win my don't pass, I would stay on the don't.
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SanchoPanza
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January 20th, 2011 at 3:34:01 PM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

You guys are reading way too much into a don't better switching to do when shooting.


People who complain in any shape, manner or form about don't bettors are displaying a lack of knowledge about the fundamentals of the game. In essence, do/don't betting is analogous to red/black, even/odd or first half/second half betting roulette. Nobody seems to become upset over competing bets elsewhere.

When offered the dice, I usually say, "Just send chips (or cheques) and not dice," and usually add something about calling the Fire Dept. because the table will grow so hot. I do switch to do betting when I have to shoot because of friends or other special situations.

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